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[MotoSniper]

all I know is Worsham and Restrepo look like divas. Yes, they work out at the IPF after hours, but it’s more of the “hey, look at me” videos.

gotta call it out. Moss didn’t do it. Johnson didn’t do it. Wayne didn’t do it.

these guys are not cut from the same cloth. Hopefully 20ER can whip them into being testosterone pumping Tyrannosaurus rex’s god dangit!

Restrepo is potentially the hardest working kid on the team from Day 1...another Berrios type of work ethic...Calling the kid a Diva?!?

 

[skyman]

Yep u know better than Ed Reed. Of course.

I have heard these same type of quotes for Coker, Shannon, Golden, etc. You dont have to agree with everything someone says

 

[305to954]

Yes, the coach is responsible for the whole program. If you want to contend that he doesn’t ‘control’ every decision and sometimes kids made bad decisioms, okay, whatever. But big picture, when you pick recruits, then oversee a lax culture, you own what ensures. Absolutely.

I agree. Nobody is saying coaching doesn’t play a role. But it’s not all on coaching. The structure can he in place but if kids don’t follow it then they aren’t maxing out their own potential. That right there is a situation coaches need to evaluate in recruiting who u recruit. Nobody is arguing that point. But Ed’s overall point on accountability is the bigger issue. If people think a kid from Dade or broward who decides to stay in the 305 to play ball isn’t going to face more exterior distractions that can throw them off track than a kid from Dade who goes to Tuscaloosa or one of those college towns the. Idk what to say. It’s not just the partying but the gratification they get from those around. That’s what Ed hit on. I’ve seen our players out and about. **** I was at a party at Florida memorial college after a FSU game a year we got thrashed in 14 and sure enough a group of our guys were there..a couple starters too. You think Ed n them boys going out after they blew a lead at home to FSU..I doubt it

point is it all matter

 

[Mandingo]

That’s because unlike Miami. It’s not national news when a UGA player gets arrested or in trouble. Trust me I’m a UGA grad living in Atlanta and those UGA teams always had off season problems. Just wasn’t covered Nationally.

And sometimes it was... all he has to do is little research. Mark had suspended players on the roster often. One of my best friends is a UGA grad. We grew up together. He Ran track there. Qualified for the Olympic trials in the triple jump. We would talk often about how CMR didn’t seem to have his finger on the pulse of the program. Kids were constantly getting in trouble, and they weren’t winning big games.

I believe there is a graphic out there somewhere detailing the number of suspended players in the SEC while Mark was at Georgia, and I believe they were pretty high on that list.

 

[Mandingo]

Huh?

No distraction on a state University campus with 40,000 students? A never ending flow of party, booze, and hot girl p’ussy for a young man to indulge in ? With boosters giving out free sports car rides and $500 handashakes?

People act like the top teams ain’t chasing girls and smoking copious amounts of weed. All in an effort to protect over paid perpetrators who can’t coach their way out of a wet paper bag.

We all laughed about all the drama that Florida had last off season. They ignored all that mess and finished in the top 10.

That’s what having a real head coach does for the team. He gets the best effort and preparation from his guys and they overcome adversity and distractions.

We got a little bit of that Richt’s first two seasons and played our best ball in 20 years. But he burned completely up and it fell apart and we replaced with a guy who was completely unqualified.

Coaching isn’t everything. It’s the ONLY THING and we have had very little of it the most of the last 20 years.

Boom. UF players were partying, Smoking, and not taking anything seriously all while winning FOUR games. All of that stopped as soon as a real coach walked through the front door.

 

[OBLIVION]

This isn't going to be an easy hole too dig ourselves out of.

The standard that was built. Died when Coker was named HC and no real coaching search was formed. I would bet a pretty penny. The people above were happy the clown *** players walked in wanting that stooge. Because they didn't want to pay Butch what he wanted. They **** sure didn't want to have to hold a long search. Getting turned down for being cheap asses.

When Coker and staff. Decided they didn't want to recruit and just started selling NFLU to every player with a pulse. This program lost the brotherhood and became a stepping stone for guys. Wanting to leave as fast as they could for the next step and caring nothing for this program. That's why you see these bums that have no business leaving. Jumping the 1st chance they get. Gotta pay bills my ***. If your hard up for money. You've been hard up for money for years. Another year isn't going to set you back anymore than what you already are.

You add that to a never was HC and a bunch of coaches past their prime. You got a team getting it's *** kicked "literally" by LSU. You got a team having a brawl with FIU. Add on the big time hire of Shannon and nix combo. With the ponzi scheme idiot in the background. Treating guys like they're gods.

The Cloud with Golden and No D. The hiring of a coach about 10 years past his prime. Bending to his wishes and giving his son a job.

Too where we're at today. With Manny Diaz as HC and almost 2 decades of a culture gone bad.

I know this much. I don't believe ****. When it comes to this program. Unless i see it on the field. Took many of seasons but they broke me. Manny should've never been given the job but it is what it is. I don't believe for one minute. That even had they hired somebody else. That they wouldn't have payed the money from top to bottom. To get the coach and his staff.. That this program should have.

So if Manny was fired tomorrow. Would it really matter? This program is busted beyond belief. Just another half *** hire awaits us. We sit in the riches recruiting area in the country and dudes would love to come here but not to be apart of a program that is cheap. That doesn't care if they win. That has a locker room full of snicker eating *******. That want to dance on the sidelines getting there *** kicked.

 

[Go Canes!!]

Anyone reaching back to Coker, Shannon or Golden when talking about the state of this current program are talking about your own feelings, not anything that in any way affects the play of this team the last couple of years.

A good coach brings with him and instills his own culture. Very, very few do it over night. Right now, today, the yammering about Strawley and Blake are irrelevant going into this season. No kid is going to play better this August because we hire a new AD tomorrow. The AD's job will be important again if Manny fails this season and has to be replaced. Praying it will be someone new if that happens.

The reality is this season and our future is on Manny, and no one else. This team's catastrophic late season meltdown made his first season an epic failure I thought he had ZERO chance of recovering from. But he has made every move anyone at any program out there would be happy with since the end of the season:

Kept his recruiting class together
Fired Enos and Barry
Announced move to spread
Hired Lashlee and Justice
Bringing in an new WR coach
Got King and Roche
Hit on Smith and Dunson
Pushed JW to the Portal
Brought in Reed

He gets an indisputable A grade for how he's reacted and made changes since they got off the plane after that debacle against La Tech. He was smart enough to see he lost any wiggle room for failure after FIU. He's coaching like a guy who knows his job is on the line.

Now we wait and see what happens this spring, fall and into August. Honestly have no idea what to expect. Going to be the most interesting season we've had in a longgg time.

 

[RangerGranger]

Restrepo is potentially the hardest working kid on the team from Day 1...another Berrios type of work ethic...Calling the kid a Diva?!?

you wouldn’t believe it, but hard working divas exist. He just doesn’t have an alpha mindset. Looks like he cares more about his hair curls than his game. Also, berrios had 5% body fat. Restrepo is nearing CHONK territory. Wait til you see that boy with his shirt off.

 

[ShadowSpring]

Reed is a bad man. This is an outstanding addition to the program

 

[Hoyacane1620]

If anyone is interested, looks like this interview will be available or on air Monday:

 

[b caned]

My man , I live in Tuscaloosa and believe me um players ain't doing nothing different than bama players are.

You gotta be kidding me with this unless you’re simply generalizing that most college athletes do the same thing regardless of where they are located. Drink, party, etc. To which I’d agree with you.

But that’s where the comparisons end with respect to athletes at the U and some school in Tuscaloosa.

- Our worst strip club in the area squashes anything Tuscaloosa can offer as its best “strip” club.
- Our worst nightclubs dwarf anything Tuscaloosa would call their best nightclub.
- Our D list celebs squash any “A list” celeb perhaps traveling thru Tuscaloosa. (Can’t imagine any real celeb choosing to root there)
- Our smallest yachts on open ocean waters dwarfs little nickys pontoon boat he takes players on that run out of gas on mud banked rivers.
- Our city has three professional sports teams (make that 4 when team Beckham opens up) whereas Tuscaloosa has none.
- Our city is full of hot exotic cars and temptation that comes with it. Tuscaloosa is full of dodge chargers and trucks.

Do I need to continue? Point being... Bama players ain’t doing and ain’t tempted to do anything at the level of a UM player in their respective locations. There’s a **** of a lot more ways to get distracted in the Miami lights. It’s apples to oranges.

 

[clarkyboy_21]

This was gonna have to happen regardless, but definitely look for Blades to establish himself as the leader of the DB room and one of the main leaders of this defense. I’m sure Reed is like family to him and he should be camped out in Ed’s office soaking up anything and everything, if Ed doesn’t reach out and mentor Al outright.

I can imagine Ed saying something like “It’s up there nephew, go get it. Make dad proud.” Al’s always been one of our more solid defenders, but with ER now being at these kids’ disposal on a daily basis, expect him to be great this season on the field and in the locker room.

 

[TheEye]

This isn't going to be an easy hole too dig ourselves out of.

The standard that was built. Died when Coker was named HC and no real coaching search was formed. I would bet a pretty penny. The people above were happy the clown *** players walked in wanting that stooge. Because they didn't want to pay Butch what he wanted. They **** sure didn't want to have to hold a long search. Getting turned down for being cheap asses.

When Coker and staff. Decided they didn't want to recruit and just started selling NFLU to every player with a pulse. This program lost the brotherhood and became a stepping stone for guys. Wanting to leave as fast as they could for the next step and caring nothing for this program. That's why you see these bums that have no business leaving. Jumping the 1st chance they get. Gotta pay bills my ***. If your hard up for money. You've been hard up for money for years. Another year isn't going to set you back anymore than what you already are.

You add that to a never was HC and a bunch of coaches past their prime. You got a team getting it's *** kicked "literally" by LSU. You got a team having a brawl with FIU. Add on the big time hire of Shannon and nix combo. With the ponzi scheme idiot in the background. Treating guys like they're gods.

The Cloud with Golden and No D. The hiring of a coach about 10 years past his prime. Bending to his wishes and giving his son a job.

Too where we're at today. With Manny Diaz as HC and almost 2 decades of a culture gone bad.

I know this much. I don't believe ****. When it comes to this program. Unless i see it on the field. Took many of seasons but they broke me. Manny should've never been given the job but it is what it is. I don't believe for one minute. That even had they hired somebody else. That they wouldn't have payed the money from top to bottom. To get the coach and his staff.. That this program should have.

So if Manny was fired tomorrow. Would it really matter? This program is busted beyond belief. Just another half *** hire awaits us. We sit in the riches recruiting area in the country and dudes would love to come here but not to be apart of a program that is cheap. That doesn't care if they win. That has a locker room full of snicker eating *******. That want to dance on the sidelines getting there *** kicked.

ACCURATE.

 

[Trav]

The 7th floor crew song and players that did it was made public right before Georgia tech loss when we were no. 3 in country heading for what could have been in 2005. We haven't been the same since.

I don't think that game and downfall had anything to do with the song but it didn't help with media distractions and bull****.

 

[Ethnicsands]

I agree. Nobody is saying coaching doesn’t play a role. But it’s not all on coaching. The structure can he in place but if kids don’t follow it then they aren’t maxing out their own potential. That right there is a situation coaches need to evaluate in recruiting who u recruit. Nobody is arguing that point. But Ed’s overall point on accountability is the bigger issue. If people think a kid from Dade or broward who decides to stay in the 305 to play ball isn’t going to face more exterior distractions that can throw them off track than a kid from Dade who goes to Tuscaloosa or one of those college towns the. Idk what to say. It’s not just the partying but the gratification they get from those around. That’s what Ed hit on. I’ve seen our players out and about. **** I was at a party at Florida memorial college after a FSU game a year we got thrashed in 14 and sure enough a group of our guys were there..a couple starters too. You think Ed n them boys going out after they blew a lead at home to FSU..I doubt it

point is it all matter

It’s all on the coach. Whether it’s all ‘coaching’ or not doesn’t really matter. He picks the kids, sets the rules, creates the culture, enforces it, makes changes or doesn’t. If kids don’t behave right, disicpline them. If that doesn’t work, cut them. Get new kids. Whatever. If he fails, someone else will come in and have the same choices.

The truth is, manny created this culture with his turnover chain bauble, his celebrity like show up on a yacht to some event, His crashing of the FSU clinic by throwing a beer party for Hs coaches, and his unwillingness to apply consequences to kids who quit. Manny *****ing about culture is massive hypocrisy.

 

[305to954]

It’s all on the coach. Whether it’s all ‘coaching’ or not doesn’t really matter. He picks the kids, sets the rules, creates the culture, enforces it, makes changes or doesn’t. If kids don’t behave right, disicpline them. If that doesn’t work, cut them. Get new kids. Whatever. If he fails, someone else will come in and have the same choices.

The truth is, manny created this culture with his turnover chain bauble, his celebrity like show up on a yacht to some event, His crashing of the FSU clinic by throwing a beer party for Hs coaches, and his unwillingness to apply consequences to kids who quit. Manny *****ing about culture is massive hypocrisy.

The reported problems have not been on the defensive side of the ball..at all. I know ppl will say “4-17” and point to that, but let’s be real all the dogs on the Team since 15 have been on the D. All the discipline problems, malcontents, bad performances, etc etc have been on the offense. I think the offense was historically bad last year starting with Offensive line and the immaturity at QB.

My problem with manny have been 2 things:
1. Accepting JT4 back at the beginning of his tenure
2. Seemingly not being a presence on the offensive side of the ball
3. Not getting Hurts in the portal to begin his tenure.
4. Lastly, him thinking this offensive problem was a quick fix

 

[CashMoneyCane]

I will say one more thing on the general topic here - in business, building the bramd and defending the brand are different exercises, different mindsets, different capabilities, different teams. UM went wrong when it pivoted from brand building to brand protection. It’s been a textbook faceplant case study in unintended but obviously predictable consequences. We built a brand based on edgy innovation and counter-culture rebellion. We tried to become milquetoast. Predictable results ensued.

You can't continue to build the brand once it's built, otherwise you change what the brand is. Miami didn't so much move to protecting the brand as attempting to modify/alter it after the Pell Grant scandal. It was a necessary PR move to clean up the public image.

 

[CashMoneyCane]

He has a point about the 7th Floor Crew. However, Randy Shannon did his best to address it and it did not translate into wins.

Randy couldn't hire an OC to save his life. Golden couldn't run a defense to save his life.

 

[Ethnicsands]

You can't continue to build the brand once it's built, otherwise you change what the brand is. Miami didn't so much move to protecting the brand as attempting to modify/alter it after the Pell Grant scandal. It was a necessary PR move to clean up the public image.

That’s absurd. Results prove you wrong. Brands built on innovation must remain innovative or they will implode. Apple almost went out of business after inventing the Mac. Nike has to push the edge or it’s toast. Brands have to stay true to their core. You’re ‘once it’s built’ theory is 100% wrong. It’s never ‘built.’ Yesterday is over and tomorrow you gotta do it all over again.

 

[CashMoneyCane]

That’s absurd. Results prove you wrong. Brands built on innovation must remain innovative or they will implode. Apple almost went out of business after inventing the Mac. Nike has to push the edge or it’s toast. Brands have to stay true to their core. You’re ‘once it’s built’ theory is 100% wrong. It’s never ‘built.’ Yesterday is over and tomorrow you gotta do it all over again.

We're saying the same thing in a different way. Once it's built, it's built. Once you change it, it's not he same thing anymore.

If you build a house, then tear off a section and re-do it, it's a different house. Apple is a different BRAND now than it was. McDonald's is the same brand, just much, much bigger. Sometimes you can build it and keep it built, others you need to change things up.

And I'm dying, hysterically laughing at the notion of Nike needing to push the edge or it's toast. They're one of the most recognizable brands on earth.

How'd New Coke work out? There are more established brands that have stayed true to their core and remained successful than there are brands that successfully pivoted -- one of the single most difficult things to do in business.