Frog stance is very much alive and well

[LuCane]

Did these guys get it from us or the other way around?

Either way, and this isn't really directly at you, the guys pictured are professionals who've grown into their bodies and can focus their entire attention on complex systems. There are many reasons why certain things work in the NFL and are not suited for college football. Expecting players to maintain their gap and play contain is one of them. It also just happens to eliminate the biggest strength of most of our recruiting base: speed and athleticism.

 

[rok]

what our defense should've looked like against Nebraska and GT

 

[whoopingcane]

I think you're on to something, Frogulika.

 

[AguanteHurricanes]

Did these guys get it from us or the other way around?

Either way, and this isn't really directly at you, the guys pictured are professionals who've grown into their bodies and can focus their entire attention on complex systems. There are many reasons why certain things work in the NFL and are not suited for college football. Expecting players to maintain their gap and play contain is one of them. It also just happens to eliminate the biggest strength of most of our recruiting base: speed and athleticism.

Where did the spread come from and fast tempo?

The NFL has caught on, and in fact NFL defense are coming to college coaches for help on defending the spread and fast tempo.

Learn something.

 

[cowboycane]

Did these guys get it from us or the other way around?

"WE JUST NEED A 4-3 PUT THE HAND IN THE GROUND AND USE YOUR S.FL SPEED WE WILL BNE THE BEST DEFENSE #1 IF WE DO THIS BLITZ BLITZ BLITZ"

-our idiotic fanbase

Yeah, it's just our idiotic fanbase:

### UM’s defensive scheme. Al Golden and D’Onofrio believe strongly in mixing 4-3 and 3-4 alignments. That’s a hot button issue among ex-players.

“We’re not a 3-4 team! Never have been,” former star running back Clinton Portis said. “A 4-3 is the best defense ever played. A 3-4 doesn’t fit UM.”

Former Heisman Trophy winner Gino Torretta agrees. “Miami has had success being a 4-3 aggressive defense in the past," Torretta said this past offseason. "I would like to see more aggressiveness from the front four. That’s what we did and we had a lot of success.”

PAST

DO you want to do everything based ont he past?

Aren't you the one who bashes Al Golden on "slow tempo" and want to do the new spread fast?

SPeak up clown.

Show me the pictures of all the good current teams putting 3 guys on the goal line for a 4th and Goal. Or using their best pass rushers over slot receivers. Or lining up in the "frog stance". I'll hang up and listen.

 

[LuCane]

Did these guys get it from us or the other way around?

Either way, and this isn't really directly at you, the guys pictured are professionals who've grown into their bodies and can focus their entire attention on complex systems. There are many reasons why certain things work in the NFL and are not suited for college football. Expecting players to maintain their gap and play contain is one of them. It also just happens to eliminate the biggest strength of most of our recruiting base: speed and athleticism.

Where did the spread come from and fast tempo?

The NFL has caught on, and in fact NFL defense are coming to college coaches for help on defending the spread and fast tempo.

Learn something.

Please address the points in my post. I'd love to discuss football with you.

 

[cowboycane]

Did these guys get it from us or the other way around?

Either way, and this isn't really directly at you, the guys pictured are professionals who've grown into their bodies and can focus their entire attention on complex systems. There are many reasons why certain things work in the NFL and are not suited for college football. Expecting players to maintain their gap and play contain is one of them. It also just happens to eliminate the biggest strength of most of our recruiting base: speed and athleticism.

Where did the spread come from and fast tempo?

The NFL has caught on, and in fact NFL defense are coming to college coaches for help on defending the spread and fast tempo.

Learn something.

Dumbest poster on the board goes at Lu? I'm getting my popcorn.

 

[Era66]

Crouching lineman hidden pass rush.

 

[wvcanefan]

Did these guys get it from us or the other way around?

Either way, and this isn't really directly at you, the guys pictured are professionals who've grown into their bodies and can focus their entire attention on complex systems. There are many reasons why certain things work in the NFL and are not suited for college football. Expecting players to maintain their gap and play contain is one of them. It also just happens to eliminate the biggest strength of most of our recruiting base: speed and athleticism.

Where did the spread come from and fast tempo?

The NFL has caught on, and in fact NFL defense are coming to college coaches for help on defending the spread and fast tempo.

Learn something.

Dumbest poster on the board goes at Lu? I'm getting my popcorn.

I'm surprised he showed back up after WTH took his lunch money in the Trayone Gray thread

 

[CaneFanWNY]

Did these guys get it from us or the other way around?

Either way, and this isn't really directly at you, the guys pictured are professionals who've grown into their bodies and can focus their entire attention on complex systems. There are many reasons why certain things work in the NFL and are not suited for college football. Expecting players to maintain their gap and play contain is one of them. It also just happens to eliminate the biggest strength of most of our recruiting base: speed and athleticism.

Where did the spread come from and fast tempo?

The NFL has caught on, and in fact NFL defense are coming to college coaches for help on defending the spread and fast tempo.

Learn something.

Please address the points in my post. I'd love to discuss football with you.

He cant. He's too busy choking on the staff's shaft and deflecting every response he makes to attempt to make a point

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

Did these guys get it from us or the other way around?

"WE JUST NEED A 4-3 PUT THE HAND IN THE GROUND AND USE YOUR S.FL SPEED WE WILL BNE THE BEST DEFENSE #1 IF WE DO THIS BLITZ BLITZ BLITZ"

-our idiotic fanbase

Yeah, it's just our idiotic fanbase:

### UM’s defensive scheme. Al Golden and D’Onofrio believe strongly in mixing 4-3 and 3-4 alignments. That’s a hot button issue among ex-players.

“We’re not a 3-4 team! Never have been,” former star running back Clinton Portis said. “A 4-3 is the best defense ever played. A 3-4 doesn’t fit UM.”

Former Heisman Trophy winner Gino Torretta agrees. “Miami has had success being a 4-3 aggressive defense in the past," Torretta said this past offseason. "I would like to see more aggressiveness from the front four. That’s what we did and we had a lot of success.”

PAST

DO you want to do everything based ont he past?

Aren't you the one who bashes Al Golden on "slow tempo" and want to do the new spread fast?

SPeak up clown.

But wait, before you try to shift the conversation, let's focus on your original point:

Are Clinton Portis and Heisman-winner Geno Torretta idiots?

 

[Canething]

That picture DOES NOT tell 1000 words!!!

 

[niner]

Did these guys get it from us or the other way around?

Either way, and this isn't really directly at you, the guys pictured are professionals who've grown into their bodies and can focus their entire attention on complex systems. There are many reasons why certain things work in the NFL and are not suited for college football. Expecting players to maintain their gap and play contain is one of them. It also just happens to eliminate the biggest strength of most of our recruiting base: speed and athleticism.

It's not only the pros doing it. Many college teams are doing it, including teams that have speed and athleticism. So it's not so much who these teams are, point is, college teams are also doing it. Is it better? IDK. The pros seem to think it helps, I can understand why college teams piggy back off it.

 

[rok]

LMAO at using Clowney as an example of our coaches doing something right. Our DL do the exact opposite of what he did at SC.

 

[LuCane]

Did these guys get it from us or the other way around?

Either way, and this isn't really directly at you, the guys pictured are professionals who've grown into their bodies and can focus their entire attention on complex systems. There are many reasons why certain things work in the NFL and are not suited for college football. Expecting players to maintain their gap and play contain is one of them. It also just happens to eliminate the biggest strength of most of our recruiting base: speed and athleticism.

It's not only the pros doing it. Many college teams are doing it, including teams that have speed and athleticism.

Those aren't the best examples. If you wanted to provide great examples, the best teams playing gap control comparable to what we try to do are probably Stanford and Bama. The reality is that we simply recruit differently than Stanford and Bama. Here's the bottom line with this type of system:

You need physically mature players who are that way because they either stay in the system for a while or are naturally that way. South Florida recruits are historically undersized - in all facets, including physical development at the HS level. Of course, there are exceptions. It's my position that you cannot maintain a consistent product based on identifying exceptions. It'd be a lot simpler and likely more effective to simply play a system that accentuates what your players do best.

While he isn't a superstar by any stretch of the imagination, Chickillo is a very good example. He could have been a very good college player. He was asked to do something - both in terms of his body and play - that made him look worse than his actual ability. That's the opposite of a coach's mission.

 

[FullyERicht]

The picture above is from the 2012 Seahawks season. It's their "Bear" front, which they used occasionally early in Pete's tenure there.

If the idiot who posted it had read even ONE iota of info on Pete Carroll's defense, he would know that they used against power running teams. They STOPPED USING IT against SF once SF decided to become a read option team with Kaepernick, and instead went with the 4-3 over front, with a few twists.

What they never EVER have run is the overrated Parcells/Belichick 3-4 defense that hasn't worked anywhere all that well except when Lawrence Taylor is playing LB, that our moron coaches think is the be all end all.

 

[niner]

 

[LuCane]

The picture above is from the 2012 Seahawks season. It's their "Bear" front, which they used occasionally early in Pete's tenure there.

If the idiot who posted it had read even ONE iota of info on Pete Carroll's defense, he would know that they used against power running teams. They STOPPED USING IT against SF once SF decided to become a read option team with Kaepernick, and instead went with the 4-3 over front, with a few twists.

What they never EVER have run is the overrated Parcells/Belichick 3-4 defense that hasn't worked anywhere all that well except when Lawrence Taylor is playing LB, that our moron coaches think is the be all end all.

Additionally, most people only talk about the front. A defense is about what you're asking your front to do in conjunction with your back 7. We play conservatively at both levels. Yes, there are instances where we've actually been aggressive, but for the most part we play a style of defense that hopes/waits for the other team to make an egregious error. It's a flawed approach for today's game.

 

[LuCane]

Regardless of stance, that dude's in a 9-tech way out there. He's going upfield Jerome Mcdougle-style. Our DEs are often playing contain.

 

[DuffleBagYoda]

The picture above is from the 2012 Seahawks season. It's their "Bear" front, which they used occasionally early in Pete's tenure there.

If the idiot who posted it had read even ONE iota of info on Pete Carroll's defense, he would know that they used against power running teams. They STOPPED USING IT against SF once SF decided to become a read option team with Kaepernick, and instead went with the 4-3 over front, with a few twists.

What they never EVER have run is the overrated Parcells/Belichick 3-4 defense that hasn't worked anywhere all that well except when Lawrence Taylor is playing LB, that our moron coaches think is the be all end all.

Additionally, most people only talk about the front. A defense is about what you're asking your front to do in conjunction with your back 7. We play conservatively at both levels. Yes, there are instances where we've actually been aggressive, but for the most part we play a style of defense that hopes/waits for the other team to make an egregious error. It's a flawed approach for today's game.

That about sums it up