I dunno. The whole thread is pretty pointless other than to start yet another recruiting *****fest but whatever. Not that OP is wrong, just not sure why this needs yet another thread devoted to it.
Might not have needed it's own thread, but the list is pretty awful even by the most generous of standards. I know you know this stuff already, but I'm pretty rustled right now so I'm mostly just typing this out to hear myself talk and this isn't even really directed at you. I also don't feel like starting another ***** thread so I'll park my *** in here.
Kids Golden flipped in our favor:
Dallas Crawford (Michigan)- took advantage of coaching change
Matt Goudis (Michigan)- took advantage of coaching change
Jalen Grimble (USC)- sucked, transferred to Oregon St.
Thomas Finnie (S. Carolina)- got arrested, no clue where he is now
Kevin Grooms (VT)- Grade casualty, ended up at Marshall
Robert Lockhart (VT)- left team, no clue where he is now
Jawand Blue (VT)
Artie Burns (Bama)
Joseph Yearby(FSU)
Anthony Moten (UF)
Traitors under Golden:
Teddy Bridgewater (He was still in the fold and didn't de-commit until after meeting Al)
Jabari Gorman (UF) -followed Aubrey Hill to UF
Willie Bailey (UF) -followed Aubrey Hill to UF
Keith Brown (L'ville) -?
Levonte Whitfield (FSU) -?
Keith Bryant (FSU) -we got trolled, hard
Alex Collins (Arky) -Woo Pig Suey
Travis Rudolph (FSU) -smh
Travonte Valentine (LSU) -smh
Reilly Gibbons (Stanford) -**** him
Brandon Powell (UF) -smh
I didn't include a grade casualty like Dalvon Stuckey, or someone who appeared to be pushed out late like Nigel Bethel. It also doesn't include guys we didn't seem too hot after that left town like Maquedius Bain or Skai Moore. It also doesn't include the litany of people we lost out on that we thought were going to be ours early on like Matt Thomas, Ermon Lane, Amari Cooper, Jaynard Bostwick, and too many others to count who went elsewhere. That list of players goes on forever and is actually the most damning, which is pretty sad.
ESF has always said (and I think he's dead on), that recruiting is about 2 things; Evaluations and changing minds. Evaluations encompass a lot of things like roster management, whether a player is good enough to be offered, or whether he fits in schematically/grades/personality/culture/whatever. Changing minds comes down to winning over mom and dad, the coach, handler and ultimately the player's opinion on why he shouldn't go school X because those guys are ******s and we the best.
So based on the previous paragraph and the results we've seen under Golden I ask the board this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kZg_ALxEz0
Does Golden deserve a Cadillac El Dorado, a set of steak knives, or to be fired?