Fireside Chat with The Living Legend

I hope you're right, but I don't see it. Seems like Diaz has gone out of his way to stack the defensive staff with his valets and do boys.
Sadly so. If Manny wants to make the next progression as a HC he’ll need to get over loyalty for loyalties sake. Although, I don’t see Rumph a some of ‘his boys’. Wasn’t Rumph a Richt hire? Maybe we’ll get a change there.
 
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They want to create false narratives to support their view. The tape says otherwise.
I watched every LSU game last year, and there's no false narrative. They were far from a "dominant" defense. They were good, and they were opportunistic. Dominant? No, and they didn't have to be because they were absolutely dominant on offense.

You know as well as anyone that football shouldn't be analyzed in a vacuum. If you can dominate on offense and play good, opportunistic defense, you can win championships. The most recent national champion proved that.
 
"B. Bold: I actually saw idiots ripping him in the gameday abortion thread. This dude was everywhere. He's got great speed to the ball, and when he gets there he makes the play. Asking him to cover PooPoo AssSmell is retardation or complete lack of trust in your CB depth."

Great post! Don't know I disagree with anything. But, I posted that quote because that's INSANE!! Anyone with eyeballs and a spinal cord (no brain necessary) could see that Bolden is playing at an elite level. You can easily make the claim that he is on of our top 3 best D players, if not the best. He stopped multiple plays against solid players that would have gashed us in past years, but he stopped them. BB is an absolute stud and I hope we can keep him for one more year.
That's brilliant, dude! I love that **** about not even needing a brain just a spinal cord to tell that B Bold is playing elite football. That guy covers a ton of ground quickly and just flies to the football. I always talk about guys who jump off the screen, and he's one of them. So is Brevin.
 
This is factually incorrect, by a long shot for LSU. If you want to have an honest discussion, sure Texas and Bama scored quite a bit, but ...

LSU vs. #1 scoring offense Oklahoma (48.4 ppg) held them to 28 points.
LSU vs. #2 scoring offense Utah State (47.5 ppg) held them to 6 points.
LSU vs. #4 scoring offense Clemson (44.3 ppg) held them to 25 points.
LSU vs. #14 scoring offense UGA (37.9 ppg) held them to 10 points.
LSU vs. #19 scoring offense TA&M (36 ppg) held them to 7 points.

So, no, LSU was not torched by every decent O they faced last year.

They also gave up:

38 to Texas
38 to Vanderbilt
28 to Florida
41 to Alabama
37 to Ole Miss
20 to Arkansas

Guess you missed those in your quick review.

They weren’t dominant. They had to win shootouts just like everyone else. Cherry picking half the schedule doesn’t change that fact no matter how much you want it to.
 
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They also gave up:

38 to Texas
38 to Vanderbilt
28 to Florida
41 to Alabama
37 to Ole Miss
20 to Arkansas

Guess you missed those in your quick review.

They weren’t dominant. They had to win shootouts just like everyone else. Cherry picking half the schedule doesn’t change that fact no matter how much you want it to.
Never said they were dominant. It is very subjective. You are the one who missed those games, cherry picked half the schedule, and claimed, “they were torched by every good offense they faced.” I provided you the numbers for the other top 20 offenses they faced outside of Bama. Clearly they were not torched by every good offense they faced, but you can argue the truth all you want. Do some research next time.

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They also gave up:

38 to Texas
38 to Vanderbilt
28 to Florida
41 to Alabama
37 to Ole Miss
20 to Arkansas

Guess you missed those in your quick review.

They weren’t dominant. They had to win shootouts just like everyone else. Cherry picking half the schedule doesn’t change that fact no matter how much you want it to.
This is where guys get disingenuous. As soon as I saw the young man start picking a few games and using statements like "but then they put their backups in" I knew what he was up to. They start with a premise (Miami sucks/Some other school is dominant) and try to manipulate facts to support that premise. We're not a great defense; neither was LSU last year.
 
This is where guys get disingenuous. As soon as I saw the young man start picking a few games and using statements like "but then they put their backups in" I knew what he was up to. They start with a premise (Miami sucks/Some other school is dominant) and try to manipulate facts to support that premise. We're not a great defense; neither was LSU last year.
Cherry picking games was a disingenuous attempt by him to justify, “they got torched by every good offense they played.” The facts I provided disprove this statement. Their starters keeping the #1 offense in college football, OU, to 14 points is worthy of the note. Even at 28 points, they held them to 3 TDs below their average per game. As I previously mentioned, arguing subjective terms like dominant or great is an exercise in futility and pointless especially if that threshold is our great defenses of the past.
 
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LSU was not a great defense. Didn’t need to be as they were playing down hill every game. Good offenses scored points trying to keep up but no one was going to score enough. The offenses that moved the ball and scored ran version of the spread.

I don’t think anyone shuts down a well-coached spread offense that has a good QB and talent around him.

Georgia, plays ‘pro-style’ and managed a whopping 10 points.
 
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LSU didn’t have a “dominant” defense last year. But they did have a pass rush that created 22 turnovers. If our offense can dominate and the defense can create turnovers, no reason for us to not have success.

Only X factor is ACC refs. Are they just going to let everyone vise grip hold or cut block Jaelan Phillips all year?
 
I watched every LSU game last year, and there's no false narrative. They were far from a "dominant" defense. They were good, and they were opportunistic. Dominant? No, and they didn't have to be because they were absolutely dominant on offense.

You know as well as anyone that football shouldn't be analyzed in a vacuum. If you can dominate on offense and play good, opportunistic defense, you can win championships. The most recent national champion proved that.
Where was this strawman birthed that LSU had a dominant defense? Not sure I have seen anyone suggest they were. The false narrative he is referring to was someone saying LSU got torched by every good offense they faced. I disproved that. Disproving that was not a defense that they were dominant.
 
Where was this strawman birthed that LSU had a dominant defense? Not sure I have seen anyone suggest they were. The false narrative he is referring to was someone saying LSU got torched by every good offense they faced. I disproved that. Disproving that was not a defense that they were dominant.
Pay closer attention. The guy who originally started this discussion stated clearly the premise that all the teams in the playoff had "dominant defenses."

You've morphed it into something else where you're trying to claim that LSU might not have had a dominant defense but that they were excellent or whatever word you want to use because you picked a few games or a few halves of games and ignored the others where they struggled pretty badly on defense.

I don't want to turn this celebration into a quibble fest with you over how great LSU's defense was last year. You seem pretty bent in most threads on trashing UM.
 
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Chise, just holding teams now to FG's is a win defensively in todays game, especially if you have a real offense. Last night ,holding the Ville to just 6 points in the first half was huge because it gave UM the chance to play from ahead, while they actually converted for TD's in the redzone. Todays game is a race to 40 points and beyond. Coming into the game, I thought we needed at least 38 points, well, we gave up 34(although some of that was garbage time, in reality). Miami is now equipped to compete in this era

But I just wish we would stop that god forsaken delayed zone blitz. It gets shredded waayyy to often

To me, the two TD drives after getting down 3-0, and then the two home runs dialed up by Nextflix Lashlee could be defining plays for this program moving forward -- that this is a new day. We don't have our Blockbuster Video membership card anymore on offense
Those zone blitzes have been horrible since Richt was here
 
I'll start with some general philosophy and then hit you with the pros and cons. It's time to celebrate, boys. Learn to celebrate the wins in life, and this was a big one. 2020 sucks for most even though I've never been happier, so breathe this one in and enjoy it.

Again, a large segment of the national media had us losing just like a lot of them picked UAB to beat us. They don't know what the astute UM fans know and what a few of us have been trying to tell you--we have a lot of talent on this team. All we needed was a leader at QB and a modern OC who would cater to the type of talent we have and not try to foist that 1970s Big 10 Boner Hayes pro style bro **** on us. We have both now.

Learn to accept that our defense isn't going to be a Sonny Lubick/Greg McMacken 9 points per game defense. Those days are over. Get over it. This is a defense built on creating havoc and splash plays. We hope to get the O off balance and in long yardage situations and force turnovers. It's not a sound defense, and it will always give up plays to good passing teams. Keep in mind that when you have a real O you don't have to be perfect every game or series on D.

OU makes the playoffs every year with a D that is complete dog ****; our D is better than theirs. It's all relative, boys. The entire Big 12 struggles to stop each other every year because football is an offensive game today. LSU was always a tough D, but they never had an O, and they struggled even with loads of talent. They get a great O, and they dominate everyone including Clemson and their great D. Look at the game holistically and stop focusing on one play or one player or one side of the ball. It's the ultimate team game, so when your D is struggling or playing a good O, then you lean on your O. We can do that now.

Pros:

Lash: This dude brings that big dyck swagger to our entire team. Just watch how he carries himself and how he coaches. He's tough, but he cares. He's not just a screamer who the players hate. He'll kick your *** then share some cookies his daughter made. He teaches and relates and demands excellence. On top of that, he brings the diversity I've been screaming for while most of you guys were telling me "but Dorsey and Booch and pro style is the Miami way."

King: Winner. Calm. Leader. Oh yeah, and he makes plays too. That throw to Harley where he was twisting and turned sideways and looked like Kareem dropping a sky hook was a thing of beauty. He looks a little robotic at times in the read option, but I still think they're trying to limit the hits on him. You don't want to destroy your QB in the first half of the season.

Cam Harris: I was tough on him last year, but he's proving to be a legit homerun hitter. Give him and edge or a crease, and he's gone. He's not going to be a guy who consistently picks up yards, but he's going to drop pellets on you if he gets a crease. And I love seeing that upright long stride of his when he gets loose. The turnover is fun to watch.

Brevin: Best TE in college football. Great job by Lash making him a focus. When you have a guy like that, you have to force feed him.

Joe B.: The ball explodes off his foot. I actually felt confident when he went out there for a 57 yarder. I would have been surprised if he missed it. It's a cannonading blast off his **** foot. Love the tats and eye black and the swag. This kid is Miami personified.

Cam Williams: Love his speed and length off the edge. He's playing like people were telling me Harvey was going to play last year. Future big time star.

Phillips: Stud. Warrior. Nonstop motor. He's all over the field and is a total disruptor. He might not have a million sacks, but he is constantly disrupting which is way more important than an occasional sack and then disappearance for 30 plays.

B. Bold: I actually saw idiots ripping him in the gameday abortion thread. This dude was everywhere. He's got great speed to the ball, and when he gets there he makes the play. Asking him to cover PooPoo AssSmell is retardation or complete lack of trust in your CB depth.

Cons:

CB Depth: If we can't get a 4th corner ready or god forbid lose 1 to injury, we will continue to have problems covering people. You simply can't ask any S to try to cover little fast dudes like AssSmell.

Jennings: Love his willingness to trade paint, but he's not a UM MLB right now. I'm not sure Brooks is either because I hear about how good he is, but I just don't see him jumping off the screen at me. None of our LBs seem to be jumping out at me. As a UM fan, you know when you have a great LB. We've seen them.

Harley: He was terrible. Can't drop TD passes. That's like a turnover in my book. Then, what the fck was he doing on that onside kick? That was awful.

Manny sitting on the ball at the end of the 1st half: That was horrible. You have all the momentum, 2 TOs, 1:40, and the ball in plus territory. And you take the air out of the ball. That was reminiscent of Booch's weak **** from the 90s.

Refs: They let UL hold and cheap shot all night. Pathetic.

Sissy UM fans: Fck you and buck up. LOL at you fools eating Splatterfield's *** all week, and then Manny owned him again for a 3rd time. And you're still making excuses for him.
This is very good.
 
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Hilarious. TFC wants everybody to focus solely on the win and forget the real issues with the team.

They just beat a team that will probably finish .500 and he writes a long dissertation on why we should embrace this mediocre team.

Not even the Miami greats think much of this squad. Don’t believe me. The next time you hear somebody like R Hill on the radio ask him his opinion.
 
This is where guys get disingenuous. As soon as I saw the young man start picking a few games and using statements like "but then they put their backups in" I knew what he was up to. They start with a premise (Miami sucks/Some other school is dominant) and try to manipulate facts to support that premise. We're not a great defense; neither was LSU last year.

Even the stats are skewed.
Never said they were dominant. It is very subjective. You are the one who missed those games, cherry picked half the schedule, and claimed, “they were torched by every good offense they faced.” I provided you the numbers for the other top 20 offenses they faced outside of Bama. Clearly they were not torched by every good offense they faced, but you can argue the truth all you want. Do some research next time.

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Dude please stop embarrasing yourself. Directly from the NCAA 2019 website:


Georgia was ranked 50th not 14th at 30.8 ppg last season.
Texas A&M was ranked 62nd not 19th at 29.5 ppg last season.
Utah State was ranked 63rd not 2nd at 29.3 ppg last season.

Your point, like your stats are total horse ****.

Now go away doofus.
 
Nice analysis Chise. ... However, I feel your summary assessment lets Manny off the hook with the defense.

It's true the today's defenses can't dominate like in the past -- and I think the roughing, personal foul, targeting, unsportsmanlike rule changes had just as much an impact as the spread and DT-QBs have had. But it's also true that our DC is mediocre at best, and he has two position coaches who are not Miami material in Patke and Rumph. A better coordinator wouldn't have gotten beaten up by UNC, Ga Tech or FIU last year. and a lot of the 4th quarter success by UL was preventable.

So, no, we'll never see crackbacks and high-lows and spearing that put the fear of god in receivers and runners again. The spread and up-tempo definitely increase the overall point totals. But I do think we can still have a dominant defense that generates a lot of turnovers, out-athletes opposing teams with more talented personnel and out-smarts opposing OCs with the right DC and supporting staff.
 
Nice analysis Chise. ... However, I feel your summary assessment lets Manny off the hook with the defense.

It's true the today's defenses can't dominate like in the past -- and I think the roughing, personal foul, targeting, unsportsmanlike rule changes had just as much an impact as the spread and DT-QBs have had. But it's also true that our DC is mediocre at best, and he has two position coaches who are not Miami material in Patke and Rumph. A better coordinator wouldn't have gotten beaten up by UNC, Ga Tech or FIU last year. and a lot of the 4th quarter success by UL was preventable.

So, no, we'll never see crackbacks and high-lows and spearing that put the fear of god in receivers and runners again. The spread and up-tempo definitely increase the overall point totals. But I do think we can still have a dominant defense that generates a lot of turnovers, out-athletes opposing teams with more talented personnel and out-smarts opposing OCs with the right DC and supporting staff.
I'm not a big fan of our defense. Never have been a huge fan of Manny's defenses. I'm not letting him off the hook. Instead, I'm just taking the realistic approach in saying that this is his defense, and it's going to be his defense as long as he's here. So, unless he gets the boot, this is what we're going to be doing on D.

We can either keep squawking about it on every play, or just accept it and hope our O, when combined with a good but not great D can raise us up. I think with a great O we can win big with this D with better CBs and LBs. We can get those better CBs and LBs if we get rid of Rump and start winning more. Baby steps. Let's win the Coastal several times and start recruiting better on D.
 
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