It must have been a great confession for the State to offer PTI on a rape charge, especially considering the particular prosecutor's reputation.
The girl didn't want to testify.
The reason for the deal: the victim, also a campus athlete, did not want to undergo the “devastating” experience of testifying, prosecutor Laura Adams told a judge Wednesday
UM football players JaWand Blue, Alexander Figueroa charged with sexual battery
“The victim in this case, although never wavering from her insistence that the defendants sexually assaulted her against her will, did not believe it would be in her best interest to have to undergo the type of questioning [and] cross-examination that would essentially amount to an attack on her character should the case go to trial,” Adams wrote in a final memo on the case. “She very much wanted to put this matter behind her, and focu
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great character, burning a UM flag tells us that he clearly doesn't get that he needs to look into the mirror and stop pointing the finger. AQM was hosed by UM but Figs did this to himself.
It must have been a great confession for the State to offer PTI on a rape charge, especially considering the particular prosecutor's reputation.
The girl didn't want to testify.
The reason for the deal: the victim, also a campus athlete, did not want to undergo the “devastating” experience of testifying, prosecutor Laura Adams told a judge Wednesday
UM football players JaWand Blue, Alexander Figueroa charged with sexual battery
“The victim in this case, although never wavering from her insistence that the defendants sexually assaulted her against her will, did not believe it would be in her best interest to have to undergo the type of questioning [and] cross-examination that would essentially amount to an attack on her character should the case go to trial,” Adams wrote in a final memo on the case. “She very much wanted to put this matter behind her, and focu
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great character, burning a UM flag tells us that he clearly doesn't get that he needs to look into the mirror and stop pointing the finger. AQM was hosed by UM but Figs did this to himself.
wonder if golden tried to keep figs as much as he did for AQM, thats probably the reason AQM stayed
It must have been a great confession for the State to offer PTI on a rape charge, especially considering the particular prosecutor's reputation.
The girl didn't want to testify.
The reason for the deal: the victim, also a campus athlete, did not want to undergo the “devastating” experience of testifying, prosecutor Laura Adams told a judge Wednesday
UM football players JaWand Blue, Alexander Figueroa charged with sexual battery
“The victim in this case, although never wavering from her insistence that the defendants sexually assaulted her against her will, did not believe it would be in her best interest to have to undergo the type of questioning [and] cross-examination that would essentially amount to an attack on her character should the case go to trial,” Adams wrote in a final memo on the case. “She very much wanted to put this matter behind her, and focu
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But what about this rock solid "confession" and everyone who witnessed it? Why didn't they offer them a plea that required them to admit guilt then? PTI for rape charges is pretty extreme, pointing to the fact that not only did the AV not want to testify, but that the case was complete **** in every other aspect.
great character, burning a UM flag tells us that he clearly doesn't get that he needs to look into the mirror and stop pointing the finger. AQM was hosed by UM but Figs did this to himself.
wonder if golden tried to keep figs as much as he did for AQM, thats probably the reason AQM stayed
sexual assault and assault are two very different charges. more importantly, how they handled the adversity has a lot to do with most coaches going to bat for them. what Figs did defines who he is, where as AQM followed protocol and is back on team.
It must have been a great confession for the State to offer PTI on a rape charge, especially considering the particular prosecutor's reputation.
The girl didn't want to testify.
The reason for the deal: the victim, also a campus athlete, did not want to undergo the “devastating” experience of testifying, prosecutor Laura Adams told a judge Wednesday
UM football players JaWand Blue, Alexander Figueroa charged with sexual battery
“The victim in this case, although never wavering from her insistence that the defendants sexually assaulted her against her will, did not believe it would be in her best interest to have to undergo the type of questioning [and] cross-examination that would essentially amount to an attack on her character should the case go to trial,” Adams wrote in a final memo on the case. “She very much wanted to put this matter behind her, and focu
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article3583495.html#storylink=cpy
But what about this rock solid "confession" and everyone who witnessed it? Why didn't they offer them a plea that required them to admit guilt then? PTI for rape charges is pretty extreme, pointing to the fact that not only did the AV not want to testify, but that the case was complete **** in every other aspect.
rape cases are very hard to trial for if the victim doesnt agree to testify, most rape cases in general solely rely on victim and the evidence taken from that victim also its hard for prosecutors to even prove if it was a rape in the first place, wonder if she did a rape kit, the fact that they confessed to it is probably what got them PTI,
It must have been a great confession for the State to offer PTI on a rape charge, especially considering the particular prosecutor's reputation.
The girl didn't want to testify.
The reason for the deal: the victim, also a campus athlete, did not want to undergo the “devastating” experience of testifying, prosecutor Laura Adams told a judge Wednesday
UM football players JaWand Blue, Alexander Figueroa charged with sexual battery
“The victim in this case, although never wavering from her insistence that the defendants sexually assaulted her against her will, did not believe it would be in her best interest to have to undergo the type of questioning [and] cross-examination that would essentially amount to an attack on her character should the case go to trial,” Adams wrote in a final memo on the case. “She very much wanted to put this matter behind her, and focu
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article3583495.html#storylink=cpy
But what about this rock solid "confession" and everyone who witnessed it? Why didn't they offer them a plea that required them to admit guilt then? PTI for rape charges is pretty extreme, pointing to the fact that not only did the AV not want to testify, but that the case was complete **** in every other aspect.
rape cases are very hard to trial for if the victim doesnt agree to testify, most rape cases in general solely rely on victim and the evidence taken from that victim also its hard for prosecutors to even prove if it was a rape in the first place, wonder if she did a rape kit, the fact that they confessed to it is probably what got them PTI,
Right because in most rape cases, you don't have an alleged confession. So yeah, no **** that most of the time you aren't going to try a "he said she said case" when your only witness doesn't testify.
If there is a confession you can absolutely prove a rape occurred if the confession is legit, so I dunno what is tripping you up about them not being able to prove their case w/o an AV. You show your naivety and lack of knowledge on the way criminal law in Miami works when you make the statement like, "oh maybe because they confessed, they got offered PTI." Yeah, the State isn't going to pursue charges where there is a confession...do you know how stupid that sounds?
The girl didn't want to testify.
The reason for the deal: the victim, also a campus athlete, did not want to undergo the “devastating” experience of testifying, prosecutor Laura Adams told a judge Wednesday
UM football players JaWand Blue, Alexander Figueroa charged with sexual battery
“The victim in this case, although never wavering from her insistence that the defendants sexually assaulted her against her will, did not believe it would be in her best interest to have to undergo the type of questioning [and] cross-examination that would essentially amount to an attack on her character should the case go to trial,” Adams wrote in a final memo on the case. “She very much wanted to put this matter behind her, and focu
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article3583495.html#storylink=cpy
But what about this rock solid "confession" and everyone who witnessed it? Why didn't they offer them a plea that required them to admit guilt then? PTI for rape charges is pretty extreme, pointing to the fact that not only did the AV not want to testify, but that the case was complete **** in every other aspect.
rape cases are very hard to trial for if the victim doesnt agree to testify, most rape cases in general solely rely on victim and the evidence taken from that victim also its hard for prosecutors to even prove if it was a rape in the first place, wonder if she did a rape kit, the fact that they confessed to it is probably what got them PTI,
Right because in most rape cases, you don't have an alleged confession. So yeah, no **** that most of the time you aren't going to try a "he said she said case" when your only witness doesn't testify.
If there is a confession you can absolutely prove a rape occurred if the confession is legit, so I dunno what is tripping you up about them not being able to prove their case w/o an AV. You show your naivety and lack of knowledge on the way criminal law in Miami works when you make the statement like, "oh maybe because they confessed, they got offered PTI." Yeah, the State isn't going to pursue charges where there is a confession...do you know how stupid that sounds?
DA had no case made a deal with them, they confessed to it, they got off light, thats all that happened
It must have been a great confession for the State to offer PTI on a rape charge, especially considering the particular prosecutor's reputation.
The girl didn't want to testify.
The reason for the deal: the victim, also a campus athlete, did not want to undergo the “devastating” experience of testifying, prosecutor Laura Adams told a judge Wednesday
UM football players JaWand Blue, Alexander Figueroa charged with sexual battery
“The victim in this case, although never wavering from her insistence that the defendants sexually assaulted her against her will, did not believe it would be in her best interest to have to undergo the type of questioning [and] cross-examination that would essentially amount to an attack on her character should the case go to trial,” Adams wrote in a final memo on the case. “She very much wanted to put this matter behind her, and focu
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article3583495.html#storylink=cpy
But what about this rock solid "confession" and everyone who witnessed it? Why didn't they offer them a plea that required them to admit guilt as an alternative? PTI for rape charges is pretty extreme, pointing to the fact that not only did the AV not want to testify (which is likely bull****), but that the case was complete **** in every other aspect.
What is this technicality you speak of?He can burn 1000 UM flags. He was given a chance and he confessed to sexual assault. Now maybe he got off because of some technicality or because someone F'd up, but the fact of the matter is that we are on probation and just like an average citizen who is on prob, we have to stay out of trouble by any means. He knew that and so did JBlue. So thanks for the memories, but its time to move on. It was a selfish act on his part. He knew how much we were depending on him and he blew it.
It must have been a great confession for the State to offer PTI on a rape charge, especially considering the particular prosecutor's reputation.
The girl didn't want to testify.
The reason for the deal: the victim, also a campus athlete, did not want to undergo the “devastating” experience of testifying, prosecutor Laura Adams told a judge Wednesday
UM football players JaWand Blue, Alexander Figueroa charged with sexual battery
“The victim in this case, although never wavering from her insistence that the defendants sexually assaulted her against her will, did not believe it would be in her best interest to have to undergo the type of questioning [and] cross-examination that would essentially amount to an attack on her character should the case go to trial,” Adams wrote in a final memo on the case. “She very much wanted to put this matter behind her, and focu
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article3583495.html#storylink=cpy
But what about this rock solid "confession" and everyone who witnessed it? Why didn't they offer them a plea that required them to admit guilt as an alternative? PTI for rape charges is pretty extreme, pointing to the fact that not only did the AV not want to testify (which is likely bull****), but that the case was complete **** in every other aspect.
What is this technicality you speak of?He can burn 1000 UM flags. He was given a chance and he confessed to sexual assault. Now maybe he got off because of some technicality or because someone F'd up, but the fact of the matter is that we are on probation and just like an average citizen who is on prob, we have to stay out of trouble by any means. He knew that and so did JBlue. So thanks for the memories, but its time to move on. It was a selfish act on his part. He knew how much we were depending on him and he blew it.
Dude's watching too much Matlock with this "technicality" ****. And if he actually "confessed" to sexual assault, we can rest assured he wouldn't have got PTI.
It must have been a great confession for the State to offer PTI on a rape charge, especially considering the particular prosecutor's reputation.
The girl didn't want to testify.
The reason for the deal: the victim, also a campus athlete, did not want to undergo the “devastating” experience of testifying, prosecutor Laura Adams told a judge Wednesday
UM football players JaWand Blue, Alexander Figueroa charged with sexual battery
“The victim in this case, although never wavering from her insistence that the defendants sexually assaulted her against her will, did not believe it would be in her best interest to have to undergo the type of questioning [and] cross-examination that would essentially amount to an attack on her character should the case go to trial,” Adams wrote in a final memo on the case. “She very much wanted to put this matter behind her, and focu
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article3583495.html#storylink=cpy
But what about this rock solid "confession" and everyone who witnessed it? Why didn't they offer them a plea that required them to admit guilt as an alternative? PTI for rape charges is pretty extreme, pointing to the fact that not only did the AV not want to testify (which is likely bull****), but that the case was complete **** in every other aspect.
I believe in the original police report they admitted to tag teaming an unconscious 17 year old girl. They also admitted to buying her several drinks, and admitted they had knowledge that she had taken drugs. What can the school do at that point?
What exactly would you had done if you ran the athletic department/university?
Reinstating them after the fact could bring media scrutiny. The fact they got PTI doesn't mean they were innocent.
Most schools automatically suspend players charged with felonies. Given the hysteria in the media and the White House over sexual assaults on campus. 60+ schools are under title XI investigations, and with the hysteria around FSU at the time, the university had no options.
UF suspended Harris without him even being charged, mostly because they saw the ****storm FSU was under.
What if....But what about this rock solid "confession" and everyone who witnessed it? Why didn't they offer them a plea that required them to admit guilt then? PTI for rape charges is pretty extreme, pointing to the fact that not only did the AV not want to testify, but that the case was complete **** in every other aspect.
rape cases are very hard to trial for if the victim doesnt agree to testify, most rape cases in general solely rely on victim and the evidence taken from that victim also its hard for prosecutors to even prove if it was a rape in the first place, wonder if she did a rape kit, the fact that they confessed to it is probably what got them PTI,
Right because in most rape cases, you don't have an alleged confession. So yeah, no **** that most of the time you aren't going to try a "he said she said case" when your only witness doesn't testify.
If there is a confession you can absolutely prove a rape occurred if the confession is legit, so I dunno what is tripping you up about them not being able to prove their case w/o an AV. You show your naivety and lack of knowledge on the way criminal law in Miami works when you make the statement like, "oh maybe because they confessed, they got offered PTI." Yeah, the State isn't going to pursue charges where there is a confession...do you know how stupid that sounds?
DA had no case made a deal with them, they confessed to it, they got off light, thats all that happened
They offered PTI and then they confessed? What are you talking about?
1. Confession
2. Realization that confession sucks
3. Realization that all of the other evidence sucks
4. Realization that they don't have anything to take to trial
5. Remedy their **** up with PTI
That's how it happened in all likelihood.
This thread watches too much TVIt must have been a great confession for the State to offer PTI on a rape charge, especially considering the particular prosecutor's reputation.
The girl didn't want to testify.
The reason for the deal: the victim, also a campus athlete, did not want to undergo the “devastating” experience of testifying, prosecutor Laura Adams told a judge Wednesday
UM football players JaWand Blue, Alexander Figueroa charged with sexual battery
“The victim in this case, although never wavering from her insistence that the defendants sexually assaulted her against her will, did not believe it would be in her best interest to have to undergo the type of questioning [and] cross-examination that would essentially amount to an attack on her character should the case go to trial,” Adams wrote in a final memo on the case. “She very much wanted to put this matter behind her, and focu
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article3583495.html#storylink=cpy
But what about this rock solid "confession" and everyone who witnessed it? Why didn't they offer them a plea that required them to admit guilt as an alternative? PTI for rape charges is pretty extreme, pointing to the fact that not only did the AV not want to testify (which is likely bull****), but that the case was complete **** in every other aspect.
I believe in the original police report they admitted to tag teaming an unconscious 17 year old girl. They also admitted to buying her several drinks, and admitted they had knowledge that she had taken drugs. What can the school do at that point?
What exactly would you had done if you ran the athletic department/university?
Reinstating them after the fact could bring media scrutiny. The fact they got PTI doesn't mean they were innocent.
Most schools automatically suspend players charged with felonies. Given the hysteria in the media and the White House over sexual assaults on campus. 60+ schools are under title XI investigations, and with the hysteria around FSU at the time, the university had no options.
UF suspended Harris without him even being charged, mostly because they saw the ****storm FSU was under.
LULZ at police reports. More fiction in those shyts than a Brian Williams report.