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Anyone who waves the Kiffin banner should be forced to meat me at the parking garage next to Greentree tomorrow afternoon @ 2:30pm
Bring your galoshes.
Bring your galoshes.
Just give me a competent HC who knows XOs, can hire good coordinators, make in game adjustments, and run a program. Any halfway decent coach, who can get along with recruits parents, would kill it down here. Chip Kelly (never gonna happen) would win immediately and destroy teams immediately. While I would love to say Scott Frost, he has no real experience, and we need someone with experience IMO.
Put me in the group that thinks Kiffiin can grow and become a good HC. However, we are not in a position to see if someone is going to get better as a coach.
That's the point! The guy is STILL young enough to be evolving as an HC.
He's 40 ... The same age Mike Gundy was when he was figuring out how to win at Oklahoma State, but before he became the guy anyone would be interested in hiring at Miami.
When Chip Kelly was 40, he was the OC at New Hampshire!
Kiffin is not a finished product ... And some of the people writing him off today will be the same people griping about why/how Miami "missed" hiring him if he goes someplace else, and blows up.
The same way folks were knocking the gimmicky spread offense Oregon runs, and had to have a "pro-style" HC at Miami.
Now, folks are throwing our Scott Frost and Lincoln Riley as "guys to watch".
Seriously, I don't care if we hire Kiffin. I don't think he would be a bad hire, but I'm saying he's "can't miss", either.
But I'm not accepting that what Butch did 20 years, that he hasn't replicated since, is any more likely to occur than Kiffin coming to Miami and being our next "right coach".
And I'd probably take Dana Holgorsen and Chad Morris, too ...
..... 2 MORE WEEKS UNTIL THE FOOTBALL SEASON STARTS
People are interested in hiring Mike Gundy? After last season?
I would take him. OSU looked great against FSU and then the QB went down and the team kind of circled the drain. I think this year is the rubber year.
My issue with Gundy is that he's at his alma mater with an open checkbook from T Boone and still hasn't had that program take the next step. I think he could definitely have success if he moved to another school in that geographical region or the $EC but I'm not sure he'd be a fit here. That said, his resume prior to last season is pretty solid. I'd just have about 10 guys in college ahead of him on my list of possible replacements for us.
Do you think the reason he hasn't taken that next step is because there's only so much forward progress he can make at OSU ala Jimmy Johnson? I mean he's 84-44 in 10 years there and that's while playing against really good Texas and Oklahoma teams up until 2011 and now very good TCU and Baylor teams and probably getting the 7th best recruits in the conference.
In fairness, he'd probably be my 8th phone call on the list mainly because I think T. Boone would shell out boatloads of money and I don't think Gundy even really wants to leave.
People are interested in hiring Mike Gundy? After last season?
I would take him. OSU looked great against FSU and then the QB went down and the team kind of circled the drain. I think this year is the rubber year.
My issue with Gundy is that he's at his alma mater with an open checkbook from T Boone and still hasn't had that program take the next step. I think he could definitely have success if he moved to another school in that geographical region or the $EC but I'm not sure he'd be a fit here. That said, his resume prior to last season is pretty solid. I'd just have about 10 guys in college ahead of him on my list of possible replacements for us.
Do you think the reason he hasn't taken that next step is because there's only so much forward progress he can make at OSU ala Jimmy Johnson? I mean he's 84-44 in 10 years there and that's while playing against really good Texas and Oklahoma teams up until 2011 and now very good TCU and Baylor teams and probably getting the 7th best recruits in the conference.
In fairness, he'd probably be my 8th phone call on the list mainly because I think T. Boone would shell out boatloads of money and I don't think Gundy even really wants to leave.
I think your second paragraph is spot on. I actually kinda see him being a Mark Richt type in that conference. There forever and always almost knocking on the door but a perennial also-ran.
I'm not well versed enough in Big 12 football to know if he's maxed out in Stillwater. It just seems that since Texas has been down that you have the Baylors and TCU's of that conference taking some strides where one may have thought OSU would have been more primed to jump ahead of them in filling that void.