ESPN on Manny's "American Dream"

[RightSaidFred]

This is the type of post where you wonder.
Are there dudes out there that would fart if Jessica Alba was blowing them?

I would

 

[puertorricane]

I’ve never had a beef with you, and think you’re a good poster.

Fact remains that Cuba is still under Communist dictatorship and is an island prison to its inhabitants. Just like China and its Communist regime that has had a totalitarian regime for many decades, while enslaving and indoctrinating the majority of their population.

I don’t have a chip on my shoulder, and never have. But, too many people taking free shots at Cubans all the time on this board, and it’s okay with the mods. Anybody else says anything against any other group, country or ethnicity, and they are labeled as prejudiced or racist. Let’s keep **** consistent.

Many is a Corch because he sucks. Being Cuban has nothing to do with him sucking. Just as being black has nothing to do with Taggart sucking balls. They are both just ****** head coaches.

...and yes, this IS a Canes football forum.

Jajaja

Hey @$$hole, I was born and raised in Cuba. There you go assuming again. I lived it in the flesh. Go back to selling empanadas and stay off of subjects that you know absolutely nothing about.

Only an evil son-of-a-***** like you would champion the butcher responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Cubans, as well as the destruction of a nation. He also funded all of the Communist guerrillas in Central and South America, and is largely responsible for what the Venezuelan, Nicaraguan and Bolivian people are going through.

You are what they call a typical gusano spiting the same bull for over 50 years.
Cubans have a lot more freedom than many americans.
They might not have riches but what latin american country do, at least they have their dignity.

The only sin Castro committed was not bowing down to imperialism and the owners of the world.

For sure. Most Cubans are hard working people. For this douche bag to ****** say that most Cuban-Americans didn’t work and were on the CIA payroll? What a ******’ *** guzzler.

Of course Cubans are hard workers, but the elite that ran off once Fidel took power arent used to working.
And if you dont think many cuban americans were on the cia payroll then you are just naive on how things work worldwide.
Fidel only sin is not bowing down to the ones that own the world.

 

[Ethnicsands]

I'm not a PC person, but in ESPN recounting Many Diaz's family struggles from Castro's imprisonment of his grandfather, the grandmother's escape from Cuba, the father going to law school and then Miami mayor, I did appreciate what his family had to go through for Manny Diaz to make it to where he is...Great Story.

But it occured to me ESPN didn't mention one fact on the other side of the field:

Good possibility Willie Taggert's relatives came to this country in chains; look how far he has come.

Something to reflect on...

It’s pretty certain we all have poverty and misfortune in our ancestry if you go back far enough. Just making it here makes most people amongst the most fortunate folks in the world. Manny’s story at least is personal to his father, though given his father’s accomplishments it puts context around Manny’s. But going back 150+ years doesn’t tell us much about someone’s personal accomplishments.

 

[Unsider]

Steven Jobs was a success story. Manny grew up with everything. But I understand his parents’ and grandparents’ struggles, and Manny’s migrant ancestry. E-spin overplayed it, as usual, and prematurely, as Manny has won nothing yet. However, if he brings us to the winning ways, they can do 60 minutes on him for all I care.

 

[5Rings&an Asterisk]

It’s racist pure and simple

Manny Diaz was born and raised in the USA

But in TV they are talking about him like he fresh off the inflatable rubber raft boat coaching games in a guayabera and cuban fedora smoking a new rolled cigar

They are stereotyping him to fit their dumb *** racist narrative of some poor little foreigner who came here and made it big

Smh they are just using him

His family came with nothing but the clothes on their back. Manny’s dad became a lawyer. Junior is a major college coach. They prove the American dream still exists for those that are willing to work for it.

 

[puertorricane]

I guess that's how you make yourself feel better about your short comings. All those Cubans that scrubbed toilets and worked in factories in hialeah was all propaganda.

Reading comprehension my brother, after the revolution the first ones that left never scrubbed toilets nor worked on any factories.
The first ones that left were the elite that became Miami Mayors, politicians and corrupted the city just like they had in Cuba.

 

[JTKoval]

Seems like we have heard the Manny family history three times now. Good story of perseverance. Hope they retire it in favor of player stories. The mom who works as a teacher etc.

Manny himself only had to overcome going to FSU. I do wonder if he cheered for them in garnet and gold back in the day. I support him. Just wondering. I also wonder if he really snuck into the OB. Seems unlikely.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Reading comprehension my brother, after the revolution the first ones that left never scrubbed toilets nor worked on any factories.
The first ones that left were the elite that became Miami Mayors, politicians and corrupted the city just like they had in Cuba.

Cool it with ignorance, comrade.

Don’t you have a commie meeting tonight or something?

 

[JD08]

Somewhere a *** is reading this saying, "Wait til they find out what happened to us."

 

[gruntking]

Reading comprehension my brother, after the revolution the first ones that left never scrubbed toilets nor worked on any factories.
The first ones that left were the elite that became Miami Mayors, politicians and corrupted the city just like they had in Cuba.

Dude... not only are your statements totally false... you also have used your last sentence as hyperbole with a really shiity perspective.
I think you should open your mind and read a little more than the Star and the National Enquire.

 

[TheMatador]

I'm not a PC person, but in ESPN recounting Many Diaz's family struggles from Castro's imprisonment of his grandfather, the grandmother's escape from Cuba, the father going to law school and then Miami mayor, I did appreciate what his family had to go through for Manny Diaz to make it to where he is...Great Story.

But it occured to me ESPN didn't mention one fact on the other side of the field:

Good possibility Willie Taggert's relatives came to this country in chains; look how far he has come.

Something to reflect on...

Different kind of story....not to diminish suffering of those who came as slaves and the generations following who suffered from aftermath, but we probably have very few head coaches at major programs who are only 2nd generation after grandparents came from Communist prisons

You could say that every Black coach has a story that is similar to the story of Willie Taggart. Again, not to diminish it, but the story is more familiar and not as new.

I think most of us recognize the terrible history behind how most African-Americans came here.

I had posted a 1968 Sports Illustrated cover in another thread of the 1968 UM-USC game. USC had at least two world class sprinters on that USC football team plus multiple other Black players. That year,1968, we had our first Black player, Ray Bellamy.

That mean that we were way behind West Coast schools in recruiting the best talent in the country. And I remember how big a deal it was to get our first Black player.

The idea of a Black coach, even as an assistant, was beyond the realm of possibility at that time.

I don't know who our first Black assistant was--maybe Hubbard Alexander--but there have been so many Black coaches by now that it is not considered a new story of the type that Manny's might be. That doesn't mean we forget the story of slavery.

I don't think there is any intention to diminish or overlook the hurdles and barriers faced by Black players and coaches or the terrible mistreatment their ancestor's faced. Look at Randy Shannon's personal history--wasn't his father murdered when he was young?

I remember how much talk there was in the early '60's about when we could bring in Black players. We always felt we were slow and not explosive on offense. We always wanted faster, explosive backs and we felt we could address that by getting Black players. Besides, it was the right thing to do. (Keep in mind most Black athletes in South Florida back then went to segregated schools.)

It was a relatively controversial issue because one local star who wanted to come to Miami was Archbishop Curley QB Carroll Williams but he was not recruited. Then we turned down Cyril Pinder of Hollywood Attucks who went to Illinois. This was all early 1960's.

Finally, our first Black player was Ray Bellamy. His talented career was ruined by an accident after his sophomore year. It was loss for all of us.

I don't think anyone is overlooking the history of slavery and those who were its victims.

To me it's hard to believe that this was even done in this country

 

[TheMatador]

I guess that's how you make yourself feel better about your short comings. All those Cubans that scrubbed toilets and worked in factories in hialeah was all propaganda.

I saw the terrible plight of Cubans who came over in the late 50's and '60's. No way they were on the CIA payroll. Former professionals and Cuban military officers were washing dishes in hotel kitchens on Miami Beach.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Somewhere a *** is reading this saying, "Wait til they find out what happened to us."

I've got a feeling puertoricane subscribes to some crazy *** the Jews have a secret sinister cabal conspiracy theory.

 

[TheMatador]

Seems like we have heard the Manny family history three times now. Good story of perseverance. Hope they retire it in favor of player stories. The mom who works as a teacher etc.

Manny himself only had to overcome going to FSU. I do wonder if he cheered for them in garnet and gold back in the day. I support him. Just wondering. I also wonder if he really snuck into the OB. Seems unlikely.

Apparently it was really easy to sneak in: just pass a $5 bill to the ticket taker.

 

[gruntking]

I saw the terrible plight of Cubans who came over in the late 50's and '60's. No way they were on the CIA payroll. Former professionals and Cuban military officers were washing dishes in hotel kitchens on Miami Beach.

I'm an old timer, and I've lived in NY, NJ and mostly in Miami my whole life. I have known countless Cubans and heard what they went through after coming to the US. The statement the poster(puertoricane) made is totally complete garbage.

 

[JD08]

I've got a feeling puertoricane subscribes to some crazy *** the Jews have a secret sinister cabal conspiracy theory.

I find it strange how people try to make others out to be victims as if victimhood is the highest form of honor, then openly argue that others who were very obviously persecuted and suffered greatly really didn't have it that bad.

 

[JTKoval]

Apparently it was really easy to sneak in: just pass a $5 bill to the ticket taker.

Hope they let the Burger King story die too. Would have been cheaper for him to buy a burger and get the now famous ticket that I guess millions got the way it lives on.

 

[5Rings&an Asterisk]

Reading comprehension my brother, after the revolution the first ones that left never scrubbed toilets nor worked on any factories.
The first ones that left were the elite that became Miami Mayors, politicians and corrupted the city just like they had in Cuba.

The wealthy didn’t, but your professional classes, which are also among the first ones to leave, weren’t allowed to bring any of their credentials. They had to scrub toilets and pick up trash while going to school to get their credentials.

 

[puertorricane]

Different kind of story....not to diminish suffering of those who came as slaves and the generations following who suffered from aftermath, but we probably have very few head coaches at major programs who are only 2nd generation after grandparents came from Communist prisons

You could say that every Black coach has a story that is similar to the story of Willie Taggart. Again, not to diminish it, but the story is more familiar and not as new.

I think most of us recognize the terrible history behind how most African-Americans came here.

I had posted a 1968 Sports Illustrated cover in another thread of the 1968 UM-USC game. USC had at least two world class sprinters on that USC football team plus multiple other Black players. That year,1968, we had our first Black player, Ray Bellamy.

That mean that we were way behind West Coast schools in recruiting the best talent in the country. And I remember how big a deal it was to get our first Black player.

The idea of a Black coach, even as an assistant, was beyond the realm of possibility at that time.

I don't know who our first Black assistant was--maybe Hubbard Alexander--but there have been so many Black coaches by now that it is not considered a new story of the type that Manny's might be. That doesn't mean we forget the story of slavery.

I don't think there is any intention to diminish or overlook the hurdles and barriers faced by Black players and coaches or the terrible mistreatment their ancestor's faced. Look at Randy Shannon's personal history--wasn't his father murdered when he was young?

I remember how much talk there was in the early '60's about when we could bring in Black players. We always felt we were slow and not explosive on offense. We always wanted faster, explosive backs and we felt we could address that by getting Black players. Besides, it was the right thing to do. (Keep in mind most Black athletes in South Florida back then went to segregated schools.)

It was a relatively controversial issue because one local star who wanted to come to Miami was Archbishop Curley QB Carroll Williams but he was not recruited. Then we turned down Cyril Pinder of Hollywood Attucks who went to Illinois. This was all early 1960's.

Finally, our first Black player was Ray Bellamy. His talented career was ruined by an accident after his sophomore year. It was loss for all of us.

I don't think anyone is overlooking the history of slavery and those who were its victims.

To me it's hard to believe that this was even done in this country

The wealthy didn’t, but your professional classes, which are also among the first ones to leave, weren’t allowed to bring any of their credentials. They had to scrub toilets and pick up trash while going to school to get their credentials.

No they didnt

The wealthy didn’t, but your professional classes, which are also among the first ones to leave, weren’t allowed to bring any of their credentials. They had to scrub toilets and pick up trash while going to school to get their credentials.

No they didnt

 

[dookie blaylock]

thread turned into a monster dumpster fire real quick. didn't know that the 2019 victim olympics were being hosted by cis.