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Enos presser

RVACane said:
I don’t understand football beyond being a fan so hopefully someone can help me with this.

So when Enos is talking about an advantage of being under center is that the QB can keep his eyes downfield looking at the secondary, while in shotgun the QB has to look down some, he’s basically making a decision to prioritize that “field of vision” over the detriment of an OL that is unable to protect the QB???

Also doesn’t going to gun and spreading the offense out help the QB dictate to the defense and make it easier to isolate coverages?
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RVA good point.............final analysis is that eyes up or down, the quick read and decision has to be done a second faster for JW to asses coverages.
This is so much more important in a porous OL as we are at this time....totally agree, especially your last sentence.
 
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RVACane said:
I don’t understand football beyond being a fan so hopefully someone can help me with this.

So when Enos is talking about an advantage of being under center is that the QB can keep his eyes downfield looking at the secondary, while in shotgun the QB has to look down some, he’s basically making a decision to prioritize that “field of vision” over the detriment of an OL that is unable to protect the QB???

Also doesn’t going to gun and spreading the offense out help the QB dictate to the defense and make it easier to isolate coverages?
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I refuse to watch anything with this coaching staph, but if he said the above, then Miami's is ******* screwed.
Holy sh*t
 
kryptonite said:
Totally agree that he needs to do a better job of using what he's got and what's working as opposed to what he wants to have and wants to work. That said, it's a stretch to say much negative about this. Was anything he said not true? Did everybody on the field execute what they were asked to do? Did some guys get beat one on one by inferior opponents? Or do you guys just need him to crucify himself for every issue we've got? Cause it really seems like everybody's just out for blood.
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According to CIS a 115 pound Pakistani girl who has never seen a football in her life can be the next Sean Taylor so long as she gets the right coaching. It's ALL coaching here.
 
Canemang said:
I refuse to watch anything with this coaching staph, but if he said the above, then Miami's is ******* screwed.
Holy sh*t
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I am nothing more than a fan when it comes to technical shît but that statement caught my attention. I fear we have another hard headed OC who isn’t willing to adjust to the players he has.
 
streetja said:
According to CIS a 115 pound Pakistani girl who has never seen a football in her life can be the next Sean Taylor so long as she gets the right coaching. It's ALL coaching here.
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There’s got to be a serious coaching failure component with where our talent level has ranked over the past 15 years and how we’ve performed on the field and particularly in the Coastal.
 
RVACane said:
There’s got to be a serious coaching failure component with where our talent level has ranked over the past 15 years and how we’ve performed on the field and particularly in the Coastal.
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Over the last 15 years? Sure. But this offense? It's nowhere near as talented as people make it out to be. Our receivers struggle to get open and we have the worst OL I've ever seen.
 
mossmadness said:
Enos keeps talking about, when both systems are at their best, which is better.
And it might be true that under center is better when at its best. But what does that matter if getting there is so difficult and going to produce more yearly ups and downs? Everybody runs the shotgun spread today because it’s so easily repeatable on a yearly basis and so leads to greater offensive output year to year.

I said this in the off-season when somebody said we are going to be the Rams on offense, and it’s still true today listening to Enos speak:

I would love to be the Rams on offense, but I don’t want to try to be the Rams on offense.

And that’s what Enos is trying to do. Run some alleged high ceiling offense, that also has a really low floor at the college level. And unfortunately, we are seeing the floor.
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Brilliant analysis
 
streetja said:
According to CIS a 115 pound Pakistani girl who has never seen a football in her life can be the next Sean Taylor so long as she gets the right coaching. It's ALL coaching here.
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The answer to everything is always exactly one thing. In this case it's only coaching. Sometimes it's only talent or only facilities.

What a simple place the world is!
 
supersaiyanshel said:
Would love nothing more than to be proven wrong about his offense. I would actually welcome it.
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His offense can work.

He just needs to focus on what we do best right now so we can get momentum.

If he is stubborn, he will be fired before he can recruit and develop the players he needs and won’t use this job to get another hc gig.

He needs to get focused on results instead of philosophy or he will just be another stubborn coach that wasted his potential.
 
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RVACane said:
I am nothing more than a fan when it comes to technical shît but that statement caught my attention. I fear we have another hard headed OC who isn’t willing to adjust to the players he has.
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Not gonna lie, my confidence in Enos dropped after that statement

Do you remember when Enos was first hired and he said they need to get Jeff 10 touches a game? And now look at how he handles the question
 
I am certainly not a college coach, but as a fan it seems obvious to me that certain styles of offense rely on different groups of players. If you are a power running team, your OL better be able to move the defense so your big RBs can grind. If you are an option team your OL better be able to move with the ball. Air raid systems attempt to throw the ball very quickly. Therefore, the OL merely has to delay the rush a short time. If our OL is as poor as it appears, why would anyone try to run a system that requires the OL to do something it can't do? I think this is why you see air raid teams with smart QBs and athlethic WRs. No one talks about OU's or WSU's OL. Oh wait that is what we DO have..............................this feels like AL Golden all over again....................
 
streetja said:
According to CIS a 115 pound Pakistani girl who has never seen a football in her life can be the next Sean Taylor so long as she gets the right coaching. It's ALL coaching here.
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How many stars does she have? What kind of bags will it take? Is she from South Florida? Does she have that dog in her?
 
TruCane81 said:
His offense can work.

He just needs to focus on what we do best right now so we can get momentum.

If he is stubborn, he will be fired before he can recruit and develop the players he needs and won’t use this job to get another hc gig.

He needs to get focused on results instead of philosophy or he will just be another stubborn coach that wasted his potential.
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This. Sometimes you need to do what you have to, before you can do what you want to.
 
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streetja said:
Over the last 15 years? Sure. But this offense? It's nowhere near as talented as people make it out to be. Our receivers struggle to get open and we have the worst OL I've ever seen.
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It’s been said that the WR corching is horrendous and if you look at that corch’s pedigree For corching, it’s not surprising.
 
RVACane said:
It’s been said that the WR corching is horrendous and if you look at that corch’s pedigree For corching, it’s not surprising.
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Lol so we're one coach away from what exactly? What have these receivers ever proven that tells you they're one coach away from being all americans?

We haven't had a receiver who actually gets playing time in the NFL since Dorsett six years ago. Lets stop overrating them till they prove something.
 
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AHURT12 said:
I keep hearing all the comments about "adopt to your personnel" and then what???? Throw quick passes til defenses sit there front 7 in all quick passing routes and play the safeties back to play the deep pass if its thrown..... You have to have some sort of balance if not teams with a decent d coordinator will sit on the quick outs, slants and screen passes. Once the oline gets it together the offense will take off.
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Quick passes also slow down the pass rush. We need that BAD. It also makes linebackers play more honest against the run when you attack them in the passing game. They won’t crash the run lanes as hard and give the backs more opportunity to find a crease.

Defensive coordinators are still afraid of our speed. If we make them come up because we are committed to the short game, it opens everything up.

We will get deeper routes open much more quickly because everyone has been drawn closer to the line of .scrimmage.

If defensive coordinators adjust, let them. Cross that bridge when you get there and take the extra yards and points on the journey.
 
Cane6 said:
You are talking out of both sides of your @ss

Teams that are successful take advantage of mismatches and outscheming the defense based on their tendencies

If we threw 25 WR screens a game and averaged 40+ points the rest of the season I wouldn’t give a God ****. I wanna see us maximize the talent advantage we have and score points
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"Talking out of both sides", you evidently didn't get a thing I said you unfortunate illiterate.

They go shot gun to create mismatches because they don't have the talent to create it any other way. But it's successful only if the other team can't match up in talent. When a team does, it gets taken away. If you're happy getting 40 points against the weak sisters on your schedule than good for you. But as always you're entitled to be wrong. But come crying once you get ******-slapped by a team that matches up in talent, nobody wants to hear it.

If you've watched any football, on any level, besides UM, you'd see when teams are evenly matched, the teams that have the advantage are always those that can go multiple and create uncertainty and doubt in the opponent.

Cane6 said:
Which proves my point that other coaching staffs are getting more out of their talent.

Although not 100% perfect, recruiting rankings are the only quantifiable way to determine ROI on the football field.
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It proves nothing. Your point was we had higher "internet ranking", so we must have more talent.

It takes into account nothing else about evaluations, training and development, maturity, scheme fit, intangibles. In your limited thinking, since it's the only number that has been assigned, you assume it must be more reliable than any other subjective measure.
 
TheChosenOne said:
The guy literally on the first question he tries to convince you that under center is better then shotgun/spread. Dude is clueless. There is a reason everyone is in the shotgun now.

We have yet again hired stubborn "I'm the smartest guy in the room guy" coordinator again. First with Al Golden/No-D and then Richt as OC. Unbelievable.

I FULLY expect us to come continue to run the same dogsh*t we've been running.

We need to not waste time and fire Enos after the season. Manny better know he only has 3-4 years here. Don't end up like Shannon and waste 2 of your years as HC on a Patrick Nix.
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