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Enos presser

TheChosenOne said:
The guy literally on the first question he tries to convince you that under center is better then shotgun/spread. Dude is clueless. There is a reason everyone is in the shotgun now.

We have yet again hired stubborn "I'm the smartest guy in the room guy" coordinator again. First with Al Golden/No-D and then Richt as OC. Unbelievable.

I FULLY expect us to come continue to run the same dogsh*t we've been running.

We need to not waste time and fire Enos after the season. Manny better know he only has 3-4 years here. Don't end up like Shannon and waste 2 of your years as HC on a Patrick Nix.
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It's usually because they don't have talent.

There's a reason most pros run Pro Set (with generous spread concepts grafted in). It's easier to go multiple if your base is Pro Set than Spread. That makes the offense more successful as you move up in competition.
 
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Mr. Dynasty1 said:
Yes, he knows more. His job is to use that knowledge to produce an efficient offense that puts up points with the talent he has. His knowledge should tell him what worked at Bama isn’t going to work at Miami. Adapt to your personnel. Knowledge is useless if you cannot apply it
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CHURCH.....lock thread 🔒
 
I keep hearing all the comments about "adopt to your personnel" and then what???? Throw quick passes til defenses sit there front 7 in all quick passing routes and play the safeties back to play the deep pass if its thrown..... You have to have some sort of balance if not teams with a decent d coordinator will sit on the quick outs, slants and screen passes. Once the oline gets it together the offense will take off.
 
RVACane said:
I don’t understand football beyond being a fan so hopefully someone can help me with this.

So when Enos is talking about an advantage of being under center is that the QB can keep his eyes downfield looking at the secondary, while in shotgun the QB has to look down some, he’s basically making a decision to prioritize that “field of vision” over the detriment of an OL that is unable to protect the QB???

Also doesn’t going to gun and spreading the offense out help the QB dictate to the defense and make it easier to isolate coverages?
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Watch videos how the top teams play offense and execute plays, gain yards, effectively get the ball to their playmakers in
space and score points .... compare that to the Canes offense and you will answer your own questions Amigo.
 
NorthEastCane said:
Forget rankings. Your question was which team had a better line not which line was higher ranked. Ranking are only relevant when evaluating recruits.

Once they're on the team it's all about how well do they perform. There's not a team on our schedule whose line has performed worst than ours.
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Which proves my point that other coaching staffs are getting more out of their talent.

Although not 100% perfect, recruiting rankings are the only quantifiable way to determine ROI on the football field.
 
NorthEastCane said:
It's usually because they don't have talent.

There's a reason most pros run Pro Set (with generous spread concepts grafted in). It's easier to go multiple if your base is Pro Set than Spread. That makes the offense more successful as you move up in competition.
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You are talking out of both sides of your @ss

Teams that are successful take advantage of mismatches and outscheming the defense based on their tendencies

If we threw 25 WR screens a game and averaged 40+ points the rest of the season I wouldn’t give a God ****. I wanna see us maximize the talent advantage we have and score points
 
I never but in to coach speak. I don't care what these guys say. Show me on the field. It's like politicians, never listen to what they say, pay attention to what they do.

CMU crowded the box and dared Miami to throw, knowing they couldn't protect long enough for receivers to get open down field. Instead of spreading the offense out, forcing the defense to defend the entire field, Enos stuck with tight formations, playing right into the defense's hands.
 
AHURT12 said:
Until the oline gets it together (strength and experience) it's going to be tough to have an offensive identity.
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AHURT12 said:
Until the oline gets it together (strength and experience) it's going to be tough to have an offensive identity.
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Experience is an issue but I do not lack of strength is a real issue. Inability to execute, use of proper technique and leverage are real issues.
 
troycbullock said:
Experience is an issue but I do not lack of strength is a real issue. Inability to execute, use of proper technique and leverage are real issues.
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Before the professors come out to check me I meant “I do not believe that lack of strength is a real issue”
 
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This guy is the offensive version of Mark Donofrio. The optimistic fans will make excuses for him. The reality is that he is trying to force his brand of football onto a talent base that does not fit it. He wants to out execute teams instead of take advantage of teams and beat them. His ego is out of control for a guy that has 8 months of positive history coaching at Bama, not calling plays mind you, and little else on his resume.
 
423Hurricane said:
Seemed a bit uncomfortable today. I did find his explanation of the advantages of being under center versus in shotgun very enlightening.

As a side note - I was watching the Dallas-New Orleans game last night and Bridgewater - filling in for injured Brees - was under center quite a bit. Most were runs with PA mixed in here and there. Most of the New Orleans games I've watched, rarely Is Brees under center. Payton is widely regarded as an offensive savant. Is he calling plays to highlight Teddy's strengths and hide his weaknesses? I just found it interesting because of the debates that have taken place here about whether or not Jarren would benefit more by being in the shotgun more often.

@Roman Marciante would really like to hear your take on this.
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On the Saints:

I don’t think anyone would be raving about the Saints offense if the defense didn’t hold the Cowboys offense to 10 points. Defense had 3 turnovers and the one late in first half that led to 3 points was all on Garrett. Garrett lost this game more than Payton won it.

You pretty much answered your own questions. Bridgewater is under center. Enos has answered the questions as to why teams do it. Bridgewater is most comfortable in the underneath passing game. Saints also one of the best O-Lines in the NFL. He also has Kamara in the back field with him. And Michael Thomas has been f*cking brilliant in coming out of his routes to help out Bridgewater underneath.
 
Fawk_U Haters said:
Everybody saying he threw players under the bus, thinks he's smarter than you, know it all coach, or whatever is just saying things to say things. None of what is being said came out in that interview. he doesn't throw players under the bus, He doesn't come off as a know it all. He's answering questions honestly.

Most people with anything to say is just mad he's not running the scheme they want him to run. Because he isn't in the shotgun throwing the ball around or whatever like people think he should be doing he's a corch.
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It's not because he's not running this or that. It's because he just put up 17, at home, on CMU. It's because our offensive stats are Richtest. It's because we finally have a QB that can hit the broad side of a barn, but we can't convert 3rd downs. The system I want is "whatever the **** it takes to score points". What we are doing is not working.
 
Enos keeps talking about, when both systems are at their best, which is better.
And it might be true that under center is better when at its best. But what does that matter if getting there is so difficult and going to produce more yearly ups and downs? Everybody runs the shotgun spread today because it’s so easily repeatable on a yearly basis and so leads to greater offensive output year to year.

I said this in the off-season when somebody said we are going to be the Rams on offense, and it’s still true today listening to Enos speak:

I would love to be the Rams on offense, but I don’t want to try to be the Rams on offense.

And that’s what Enos is trying to do. Run some alleged high ceiling offense, that also has a really low floor at the college level. And unfortunately, we are seeing the floor.
 
423Hurricane said:
Seemed a bit uncomfortable today. I did find his explanation of the advantages of being under center versus in shotgun very enlightening.

As a side note - I was watching the Dallas-New Orleans game last night and Bridgewater - filling in for injured Brees - was under center quite a bit. Most were runs with PA mixed in here and there. Most of the New Orleans games I've watched, rarely Is Brees under center. Payton is widely regarded as an offensive savant. Is he calling plays to highlight Teddy's strengths and hide his weaknesses? I just found it interesting because of the debates that have taken place here about whether or not Jarren would benefit more by being in the shotgun more often.

@Roman Marciante would really like to hear your take on this.
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Brees plays out of shotgun primarily due to his height
 
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BLUE PHI CANE said:
Give him Alabama’s o line and see the difference lol
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That's the problem! lol His plays is based off of having a solid online. That is why you see J.W. more under the gun . It's not his play calling that is the head scratchier its his his scheme on how he get our players involve by their strengths. He's failing IMO in that dept!
 
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