Don't kill the messenger. Word is, Golden gone by Monday.

[DapperSlapper]

I imagine that, if this were to come to pass, it would not be a firing, given the timing. Al would be resigning with a negotiated buyout less than whatever is contained in the contract.

I do not believe there is any reason to believe the buyout decreased significantly as of January 1. The years on Al's contract do not begin in January - each year begins in February. Many contracts list multiple dates on which buyouts decrease (could be quarterly, as of end of each season, or just about any other date that makes sense to both parties), but it doesn't really make sense that a large decrease in the buyout would occur 1 month before the start of the next year on Al's contract. That's just my opinion as a lawyer who negotiates and litigates these kinds of things on a regular basis.

 

[Geo305]

Butch was gonna take the FIU job for 500k

If Butch takes the Miami job for 1 mil per year we would actually make money by buying out Golden. How funny is that?

That's a **** of a point and just further accentuates how ******* retarded this administration is

No on that end.

But I can confirm to you which has been hashed out already. Their is higher ups at Miami that do like Butch very much. But as it has been said their is some who do not.

 

[FullyERicht]

some of this staff will be kept. Ice, Hurlie, Scott, and probably Coley.

Holy **** if one more person mentions Coley being retained I'm going to start killing people.

He's one of the worst playcallers we've ever had....Coley HAS to go or at the very least cannot be the one coordinating the offense.

i don't disagree coleys play calling hasn't been good but he delivered us Kaaya and is a big reason why the kid is developing so nicely just can't see that being let go. the man can recruit.

Have you seen our classes since he arrived? Dude was the south florida expert and we cant land **** from south florida

 

[Canes21]

some of this staff will be kept. Ice, Hurlie, Scott, and probably Coley.

Holy **** if one more person mentions Coley being retained I'm going to start killing people.

He's one of the worst playcallers we've ever had....Coley HAS to go or at the very least cannot be the one coordinating the offense.

i don't disagree coleys play calling hasn't been good but he delivered us Kaaya and is a big reason why the kid is developing so nicely just can't see that being let go. the man can recruit.

Have you seen our classes since he arrived? Dude was the south florida expert and we cant land **** from south florida

Imagine trying to recruit when Al Golden and Mark D'Onofrio are on your staff too.

 

[Geo305]

Ferman now says he is chasing down rumors that would turn Canesport upside down. Tifwiw.

If Ferman is saying that. I'm feeling a little sick right now.

Why would you?
Don't you trust your source?

Saying it as a joke.

 

[wherrera8]

I imagine that, if this were to come to pass, it would not be a firing, given the timing. Al would be resigning with a negotiated buyout less than whatever is contained in the contract.

I do not believe there is any reason to believe the buyout decreased significantly as of January 1. The years on Al's contract do not begin in January

This! I was just about to post this. It would explain a lot of things:

1) Why it has taken so long.
2) Why everything has been so quiet. Golden has not been seen or heard from.
3) Why he has stopped recruiting. I know it is the "Quiet Period" but when some kids call you, you make the most of it and apparently he hasn't been returning calls.
4) Why no changes have been made.

This is the best scenario for all parties.

 

[Kirijax]

I imagine that, if this were to come to pass, it would not be a firing, given the timing. Al would be resigning with a negotiated buyout less than whatever is contained in the contract.

I do not believe there is any reason to believe the buyout decreased significantly as of January 1. The years on Al's contract do not begin in January

This! I was just about to post this. It would explain a lot of things:

1) Why it has taken so long.
2) Why everything has been so quiet. Golden has not been seen or heard from.
3) Why he has stopped recruiting. I know it is the "Quiet Period" but when some kids call you, you make the most of it and apparently he hasn't been returning calls.
4) Why no changes have been made.

This is the best scenario for all parties.

Just curious. How do we know he hasn't been returning their calls? Someone on the inside letting that information out?

 

[mavericksouth]

Remember people the only games Fat Albert seems to win are rumor games.....

 

[Thoughtsoncanes]

SlashSteel commin for Geo's booty hole Monday if he wrong

 

[UMFarArcher]

Keep Golden and the program stays stagnent for the next few years. Fire Golden and hire Butch and the program jumps ahead two or three years. We're talking 6,7 years of lost revenue. Merchandise, tickets sales, Hurricane club donations, everything goes way down or waaaay up on this one move. How dense do you have to be to not see this?

Even if they did keep Golden, even if the recruits stayed here, even if the other recruits chose Miami, even if Golden suddenly had the guts to revamp the staff, even if Golden won the ACC and national title next year, even if that all happened, you still wouldn't make as much money as making that coaching change. And all them ifs ain't gonna happen. It's that easy.

This statement is so ridiculously stupid I don't even know where to begin.

Give it a shot.

You're suggesting that the University of Miami hiring a coach who hasn't coached in 3 years and who the majority of the casual fan base has no idea who he his will be worth more to the school than winning a national championship?

Miami fans are fickle bandwagoners, win a national championship and Sun Life will be filled, merchandise off the shelves ect. and so on. Butch Davis isn't doing that. Not on his name alone.

Your nuttier than a Port-A-Potty at a Peanut Festival.

 

[ABear]

Not returning recruit phonecalls ??

 

[FullyERicht]

some of this staff will be kept. Ice, Hurlie, Scott, and probably Coley.

Holy **** if one more person mentions Coley being retained I'm going to start killing people.

He's one of the worst playcallers we've ever had....Coley HAS to go or at the very least cannot be the one coordinating the offense.

i don't disagree coleys play calling hasn't been good but he delivered us Kaaya and is a big reason why the kid is developing so nicely just can't see that being let go. the man can recruit.

Have you seen our classes since he arrived? Dude was the south florida expert and we cant land **** from south florida

Imagine trying to recruit when Al Golden and Mark D'Onofrio are on your staff too.

Oh please. Coley gets the same treatment as Swasey does. Guy has a terrible resume, gets horrible results, but it's ALWAYS someone elses fault right?

If your recruiting ability is only dependent on who your coach is, then you have no recruiting ability. He can't coach, he can't land the top kids down here. Stop excusing him b/c he's a cool cuban guy it's ****** pathetic.

 

[dfreshhookup]

Keep Golden and the program stays stagnent for the next few years. Fire Golden and hire Butch and the program jumps ahead two or three years. We're talking 6,7 years of lost revenue. Merchandise, tickets sales, Hurricane club donations, everything goes way down or waaaay up on this one move. How dense do you have to be to not see this?

Even if they did keep Golden, even if the recruits stayed here, even if the other recruits chose Miami, even if Golden suddenly had the guts to revamp the staff, even if Golden won the ACC and national title next year, even if that all happened, you still wouldn't make as much money as making that coaching change. And all them ifs ain't gonna happen. It's that easy.

This statement is so ridiculously stupid I don't even know where to begin.

Give it a shot.

You're suggesting that the University of Miami hiring a coach who hasn't coached in 3 years and who the majority of the casual fan base has no idea who he his will be worth more to the school than winning a national championship?

Miami fans are fickle bandwagoners, win a national championship and Sun Life will be filled, merchandise off the shelves ect. and so on. Butch Davis isn't doing that. Not on his name alone.

Your nuttier than a Port-A-Potty at a Peanut Festival.

Yes, because it's insane to assume that winning a National Championship is worth more to Miami next year than hiring Butch Davis and winning maybe 9 games.

 

[FullyERicht]

For all you people hoping for certain staff to be retained.....why? The entire staff is underqualified at each position.

A head coach sets the tone, but part of being a great HC is having a great staff under you. Coley, Kehoe, Swasey, Ice, obviously all the Temple aholes, these dudes have no business being here (Kehoe has been finished for years).

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

Make it true please, i been here in the Hallandale Beach may days, I look for coins. I find none. I look for love. I find none. I look for man in large swim cloth, I find none. The Golden is an egg,I am the frying pan, his belly is te place i wish to provide for him my lover, Go Caneis!!!!

What the **** is this

 

[decleated]

So all it took was a pizza delivery? And here we were wasting money on banners lulz

 

[User-4525]

Honestly I was going to type "whoever the new head coach wants will stay" type post but Golden aint getting till december 2015.

Maybe. This admin is hopeless, bunch of football chicks.

 

[Geo305]

Appreciate the info but I'll believe it when I see it. If they had any intention of firing him this year you would think they would have done it immediately after the Pitt game.

That's what discourages me here though.

Coming from people close to the program.

I just want to see if the University will actually pull the trigger man.

So do you have a source or not?

Yes.

But what makes me feel uneasy, is why didn't they do this after the Pitt game if it's the case?

I still take it even with a grain of salt as I said earlier in the thread. The University has been spitting in the fans faces for over a month now on the situation.

I'll eat crow if it's wrong but I can't sit here and tell you that "I" personally think it's going to happen 100%, I would be lying to you if I felt this was a done deal. I'm telling you what I was told. As far as I knew a few weeks ago, not even a peep about him getting fired. This is all new.

Where I feel good about it. Correct information has been shared to me in the past.

I'm just a bit skeptical myself cause I didn't feel with my own opinion like they would can Golden this year.

As I said. Sharing with you what I was told.

 

[FullyERicht]

I love Butch.

But I'd really love UM to make a statement and spend some serious dollars. Two reasons:

1)I'd like some completely new blood around this program.
2)I'd like the faqqots who say Miami is poor to STFU

Go get me a Patterson, Dantonio, Helfrich, or an NFL guy and let them put their stamp on it.

 

[UMFarArcher]

This statement is so ridiculously stupid I don't even know where to begin.

Give it a shot.

You're suggesting that the University of Miami hiring a coach who hasn't coached in 3 years and who the majority of the casual fan base has no idea who he his will be worth more to the school than winning a national championship?

Miami fans are fickle bandwagoners, win a national championship and Sun Life will be filled, merchandise off the shelves ect. and so on. Butch Davis isn't doing that. Not on his name alone.

Your nuttier than a Port-A-Potty at a Peanut Festival.

Yes, because it's insane to assume that winning a National Championship is worth more to Miami next year than hiring Butch Davis and winning maybe 9 games.

I stand corrected. You're nuttier than a squirrel ****.