Don't kill the messenger. Word is, Golden gone by Monday.

[dfreshhookup]

Why would they wait 33 days to fire Golden, let him get out on the recruiting front, run practices and then coach the bowl game only to fire him in January?

Makes no sense.

His buyout is reduced today. Not a small sum.

He has a contract until 2020, his buyout is still going to be huge.

You have absolutely no idea what the buyout is...nobody on this board does.

Unless Golden has the absolute stupidest agent in the game he's going to have a huge buyout. He signed an extension less than one year into his first contract with his camp holding 150% of the leverage in negotiations.

He's got the university by the balls and it's probably the only reason why he still will be coaching here next season.

 

[dfreshhookup]

Keep Golden and the program stays stagnent for the next few years. Fire Golden and hire Butch and the program jumps ahead two or three years. We're talking 6,7 years of lost revenue. Merchandise, tickets sales, Hurricane club donations, everything goes way down or waaaay up on this one move. How dense do you have to be to not see this?

Even if they did keep Golden, even if the recruits stayed here, even if the other recruits chose Miami, even if Golden suddenly had the guts to revamp the staff, even if Golden won the ACC and national title next year, even if that all happened, you still wouldn't make as much money as making that coaching change. And all them ifs ain't gonna happen. It's that easy.

This statement is so ridiculously stupid I don't even know where to begin.

 

[sabrose]

You just went 6-7 in your fourth year an your best player over the last 3 years has his mom throw you under the bus immediately after he declares for the NFL draft. If that not a ringing rejection from your players what is? I believe Momma Duke felt she had to act and act she did. She loves the U and she very well have saved it. We will see.

 

[weownfsu]

Golden's buyout is at most the remainder on his contract.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

some of this staff will be kept. Ice, Hurlie, Scott, and probably Coley.

Holy **** if one more person mentions Coley being retained I'm going to start killing people.

He's one of the worst playcallers we've ever had....Coley HAS to go or at the very least cannot be the one coordinating the offense.

Did you think Patrick Nix was better?

I understand why people do not like Coley. We had games where he did a good job play calling, including the first half of the FSU game, and there were quarters/games where you're sitting there going WTF? I honestly wonder how much did Al handcuff him outside of the L-ville game. We all heard it from the horse's mouth (Al) that they hand cuffed the offense because they didn't feel Brad could handle it all in game 1.

IF we do end up getting another coach, no matter who it is, I would see who we get to be our OC before letting Coley go. IMHO.

Slightly. Which is the equivalent of calling him the prettier fat girl.

Enough with the Golden handcuffing garbage...I don't buy that for one second. Coley's offense has been an abortion since his first game here...so what Golden hired him and immediately started telling him what plays to call?

That guy left FSU cause Jimbo wouldn't let him call plays. Why the **** would he come down here to have a larger, fatter, more incompetent, and less qualified coach undermine his playcalling?

Sorry.....don't buy it. His offense is unimaginative garbage and I refuse to accept the possibility that Butch would retain him.

 

[colorchart123]

Why are we all talking about Butch as our savior? He aint that good.
If we get rid of Al and Co. I want the new administration to pay up for a serious coach and staff.
We have money, we have tons of NFL and ex players with deep pockets. Come on and go get something done here.
If ARod could donate to the bball team your telling me Shockey cant buy out Goldens contract?

 

[FreeVilma]

Why are we all talking about Butch as our savior? He aint that good.
If we get rid of Al and Co. I want the new administration to pay up for a serious coach and staff.
We have money, we have tons of NFL and ex players with deep pockets. Come on and go get something done here.
If ARod could donate to the bball team your telling me Shockey cant buy out Goldens contract?

RIP ur rep

 

[dfreshhookup]

Golden's buyout is at most the remainder on his contract.

Which, by a conservative estimate is still going to be north of $10M.

 

[Kirijax]

Keep Golden and the program stays stagnent for the next few years. Fire Golden and hire Butch and the program jumps ahead two or three years. We're talking 6,7 years of lost revenue. Merchandise, tickets sales, Hurricane club donations, everything goes way down or waaaay up on this one move. How dense do you have to be to not see this?

Even if they did keep Golden, even if the recruits stayed here, even if the other recruits chose Miami, even if Golden suddenly had the guts to revamp the staff, even if Golden won the ACC and national title next year, even if that all happened, you still wouldn't make as much money as making that coaching change. And all them ifs ain't gonna happen. It's that easy.

This statement is so ridiculously stupid I don't even know where to begin.

Give it a shot.

 

[ABear]

Some of of you are going to be extremely disappointed. Butch, Soldinger, Dorsey, keep Coley as recruiting coordinator...crazy talk.

I suggest this thread get locked and let's wait until Monday or whatever day this miracle is suppose to happen.

K well I'm glad no one gives a **** about you suggest

 

[Consigliere]

He has a contract until 2020, his buyout is still going to be huge.

You have absolutely no idea what the buyout is...nobody on this board does.

I know this... The buyout is less today than it was yesterday! BBB

Another attempt at being an insider? Never give up!

Just shut the **** up and stay in your closet U goat humper! Nobody asked for your useless opinion. Oh that's right you don't ever give your opinion you just insert yourself into a thread insult a half dozen people and disappear! **** off!

Goat humper? Digging deep there. Keep supporting Ferman and spewing your bullchit.

Disappear I'm right here telling people you don't know anything because you don't. Try saying "in my opinion" so people know the potato is giving his personal views.

 

[Consigliere]

Why would they wait 33 days to fire Golden, let him get out on the recruiting front, run practices and then coach the bowl game only to fire him in January?

Makes no sense.

His buyout is reduced today. Not a small sum.

He has a contract until 2020, his buyout is still going to be huge.

You have absolutely no idea what the buyout is...nobody on this board does.

Unless Golden has the absolute stupidest agent in the game he's going to have a huge buyout. He signed an extension less than one year into his first contract with his camp holding 150% of the leverage in negotiations.

He's got the university by the balls and it's probably the only reason why he still will be coaching here next season.

It took you sometime but you admit you don't know. Thanks porster!

 

[Juancane]

Why are we all talking about Butch as our savior? He aint that good.
If we get rid of Al and Co. I want the new administration to pay up for a serious coach and staff.
We have money, we have tons of NFL and ex players with deep pockets. Come on and go get something done here.
If ARod could donate to the bball team your telling me Shockey cant buy out Goldens contract?

Why would you or anyone expect players to buy out a contract rather than a university sitting on several billion. Ask a player for that, and I'm sure you'd get a big F U, rightfully. So you don't listen to their comments as a university but you do want them to buy put contract? Stupid

 

[canesman]

Butch would never hire a guy like Coley to call plays. Just would not happen. Butchs best talent might be the selection of assistant coaches.

He had 4 future NFL coaches on his 1999 staff. Pagano, Schiano and Chud And himself.

I doubt that has ever happened before.

 

[dfreshhookup]

Keep Golden and the program stays stagnent for the next few years. Fire Golden and hire Butch and the program jumps ahead two or three years. We're talking 6,7 years of lost revenue. Merchandise, tickets sales, Hurricane club donations, everything goes way down or waaaay up on this one move. How dense do you have to be to not see this?

Even if they did keep Golden, even if the recruits stayed here, even if the other recruits chose Miami, even if Golden suddenly had the guts to revamp the staff, even if Golden won the ACC and national title next year, even if that all happened, you still wouldn't make as much money as making that coaching change. And all them ifs ain't gonna happen. It's that easy.

This statement is so ridiculously stupid I don't even know where to begin.

Give it a shot.

You're suggesting that the University of Miami hiring a coach who hasn't coached in 3 years and who the majority of the casual fan base has no idea who he his will be worth more to the school than winning a national championship?

Miami fans are fickle bandwagoners, win a national championship and Sun Life will be filled, merchandise off the shelves ect. and so on. Butch Davis isn't doing that. Not on his name alone.

 

[canesman]

Butch was gonna take the FIU job for 500k

If Butch takes the Miami job for 1 mil per year we would actually make money by buying out Golden. How funny is that?

 

[Shogungts]

Why are we all talking about Butch as our savior? He aint that good.
If we get rid of Al and Co. I want the new administration to pay up for a serious coach and staff.
We have money, we have tons of NFL and ex players with deep pockets. Come on and go get something done here.
If ARod could donate to the bball team your telling me Shockey cant buy out Goldens contract?

Shockey money does not equal ARod money.

 

[DCF in LA]

Guysm, please keep it civil or I'll start editing porsts. No need to start hitting each other with bricks over speculation and conjecture.

 

[BigCaneAl]

Please.

some of this staff will be kept. Ice, Hurlie, Scott, and probably Coley.

Holy **** if one more person mentions Coley being retained I'm going to start killing people.

He's one of the worst playcallers we've ever had....Coley HAS to go or at the very least cannot be the one coordinating the offense.

Let's say in the scenario hypothetically. If Al were to be fired and we bring on Butch.

I don't think Coley would do a lateral move like that. Probably would have to cut him loose. Which I'm fine with from a playcalling point of view.

Geo, is your guy in a position to know something like this?

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

Butch was gonna take the FIU job for 500k

If Butch takes the Miami job for 1 mil per year we would actually make money by buying out Golden. How funny is that?

That's a **** of a point and just further accentuates how ******* retarded this administration is