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Don Brown fired

sactowncane said:
let me add the entire D staff needs to be replaced. Diaz needs to bring in a professional and let his boys need go.

If it was up to me I would go hard after the guy at Utah, Morgan Scalley. He had to take a pay cut this past year for a bad/insensitive joke he texted to a recruit in 2013. He also lost his HC in waiting offer so he will never be HC there.
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Yeah a DC accused of making racist remarks would do great down here in Miami 😅
 
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Rellyrell said:
U know Don was our 1st choice before Manny. We’ve been craving Don; again I like to look at trends; so I would love to know where his defense started and finished at BC prior to taking the UM job.
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You can't call 2nd thru 10th a "downward trend"...Even though technically it is. He's had 1 bad year and had trouble with OSU
 
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skeeter said:
Lovie Smith is a f**kin bum who the game has passed by...God no.
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If there would be a hire worse than Don Brown, it would be Lovie Smith.

My god, people. The college game has been revolutionized in the last 3-5 years. Brown and Smith are the old guard; the game has passed them by.

No retreads, please. Find me the defensive version of Joe Brady, not the old version of Pelini/Muschamp/Brown/Smith/Diaco.
 
AllAboutTheU said:
He absolutely would have better athletes here, but feasting on the weak and looking bad against anyone good/elite is the same thing people kill Manny for.
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Yep. I hear this from Gator and Nole people.

p.s. can’t judge a book by its cover
 
sactowncane said:
Don Brown‘s D gave up 27 points and nearly 500 yards to Michigan St. How many 5 stars do they got?

Don Brown‘s D gave up 42 points and 500 yards to Rutgers. How many 5 stars do they got?

He gets paid $1.7 million.

For 1.7 million, you would think he could stop Arthur Sitfvckingkowski

Wanna me to keep going? I can keeping embarrassing you like Big Ten Offenses have done to Don Brown the last couple of years.
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I've truly been shattered like Humpty Dumpty. Brown doesn't have a $1.7 million His base salary was 1.1 million, and he got a 600k retention bonus that isn't part of his base salary. Well let's see how did Brown do against Sitkowski and Rutgers in 2019. 52-0.

Actually why don't I list the teams and their average PPG and how Brown's D stacked up.

O-Rank/ Avg PPG/ Brown's D.
#85 Middle Tn. 26.3/ 21
#67 Army 28.5/ 21
#23 Wisconsin 34.1/ 35
#129 Rutgers 13.5 / 0
#87 Iowa 25.8 / 3
#13 Notre Dame 36.8 / 14
#94 Maryland 25.3 / 7
#104 Mich St 20.8 / 10
#42 Indiana 24.7 / 14
#3 Ohio State 46.9 / 56
#2 Bama 47.2 / 35

So in all but two games (Ohio State and Wisconsin), his defense held teams to below their season average. And in one of those two games, he basically held Wisconsin to their average. So then there is the rivalry game blow out to tOSU, where his defense allowed a whopping 9.1 points more than Ohio St's season average. And Michigan only scored 27 points, so yeah, let's blame Brown for that loss. If his D had held Ohio St to 19 pts below their season average, Michigan STILL would have lost.

And weirdly, you forgot to add that his defense held a better offense, Bama, to 12.2 points under their season average in a NY6 bowl game. Funny how you forgot to include that. And these are his numbers in one of his "bad seasons." Why, if I didn't know better I'd think you don't actually understand college football but you are easily swayed by twitter headlines.
 
I like Don Brown as a DC. He’s a proven commodity. He’s probably an upgrade over Baker for what that’s worth. The problem is, his numbers have been slowly trending downwards the last few years because offenses are adjusting to what he likes to do and he’s not adjusting what he likes to do. He’s going to play a **** ton of man and leave corners on islands. He’s going to bring pressure not just to rush the passer but against the run too. His defense will be better fundamentally than Baker’s (my high school DC was better with fundamentals) but there’s a reason he gets hammered by better offenses. You cannot just run the same coverages all game and not expect good teams to eventually beat you. Much like Baker runs the same front all game and good teams just attack the weaknesses in that front, good teams attack the coverages Brown runs all game.

Probably an upgrade over Baker but a risky choice because it could totally blow up in Miami’s face if they hire him and he doesn’t have new tricks up his sleeve.
 
DTP said:
I like Don Brown as a DC. He’s a proven commodity. He’s probably an upgrade over Baker for what that’s worth. The problem is, his numbers have been slowly trending downwards the last few years because offenses are adjusting to what he likes to do and he’s not adjusting what he likes to do. He’s going to play a **** ton of man and leave corners on islands. He’s going to bring pressure not just to rush the passer but against the run too. His defense will be better fundamentally than Baker’s (my high school DC was better with fundamentals) but there’s a reason he gets hammered by better offenses. You cannot just run the same coverages all game and not expect good teams to eventually beat you. Much like Baker runs the same front all game and good teams just attack the weaknesses in that front, good teams attack the coverages Brown runs all game.

Probably an upgrade over Baker but a risky choice because it could totally blow up in Miami’s face if they hire him and he doesn’t have new tricks up his sleeve.
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Really good explanation. Thanks
 
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DTP said:
there’s a reason he gets hammered by better offenses.
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I posted the 2019 stats, would you say the #2 and #13 offenses in CFB would be considered some of the "better" offenses? Because if you do, Brown's defense held those two offenses to 12.2 and 22.8 points below their season averages, respectively. Much ado is made about Michigan's loss to Ohio State. 56 points sounds like a lot (and it is), but it's actually less than 10 points above tOSU's season average. By comparison, UNC this year is averaging 43 ppg. Baker's defense gave up 19 points above UNC's season average and it's not even worth researching how many points more he allowed to UVA and NC State above their season averages because I know it's going to be terrible.

In 2018, Brown's defense held every team but two (Ohio St and Florida) below their season average Florida was averaging 35 ppg and Michigan lost to UF 41-15. So his defense gave up less than a TD more than UF's average. Personally, I think the bigger reason they lost is that Michigan was also averaging 35+ ppg and only scored 15 points, but it seems to be de rigueur to pin Michigan's failures on Don Brown so let's not say it's Harbaugh's fault.

I believe it was Alabama's DB coach who said:

“It used to be that good defense beats good offense. Good defense doesn’t beat good offense anymore... It’s just like last week. Georgia has as good a defense as we do an offense, and we scored 41 points on them [in a 41-24 Alabama win]. That’s not the way it used to be. It used to be if you had a good defense, other people weren’t going to score. You were always going to be in the game. I’m telling you. It ain’t that way anymore.”

What a loser. Saban should throw that beta male out the door.
 
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