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Does anyone still actually believe in Manny?

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Go Canes!! said:
I believe he inherited a culture problem. The issue is he didn't cure it or even make it better. If anything it got worse as the season progressed.

I think he made some mistakes in hiring his staff. He needs to take a looooong look at his OL and OC coaches.

I have no issues with the way he tried to sell and market the team. It helped save a catastrophic 2018 class and got us some really good pieces through the portal. The problem is he didn't back it up during the season and it made him look foolish.

We'll see what he does once the season ends and going into next year.

I'm in wait and see mode on whether he has the balls and smarts to make the changes he needs.
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Y do u continue to say he “inherited?” I think we all need to remember MANNY HAS BEEN HERE! He’s equally if not more apart of the culture problem of this current team. Manny didn’t inherit chit! He’s been here since day 2016.
 
paksat said:
Surely this thread will turn out well..

Me personally, I can't help but think about what an absolute failure Enos has been for him. When he was hired a lot of people throughout the country called it a slam dunk hire, we had stolen the soon to be offensive coordinator from bama. Man were they wrong... if i'm being honest, and we're all being honest in that regard, is he not the worst most shockingly disappointing coordinator that has ever been hired here? Could he have been any worse man I mean really, the guy is ranked 130th out of 130 teams on 3rd down conversions. No one saw this coming, not any of you knew he was going to be this glaringly bad and there were plenty of you who were not sold on the guy. But at the least you'd figure at his worst he'd be around 80th or 90th in that category?

I was a big manny fan, and I'm hoping he turns it around because he has shown the ability to adapt. He completely dropped that delayed 3rd down safety blitzing crap and we became an incredible defense in doing so. We had basically this same offense and yet we all knew when the defense came out we were gonna get a turn over or a stop a lot of times.

Fast forward to blake baker, a guy completely in over his head as well. Another shockingly borderline horrible hire that rivals even enos in terms of worst coordinators in UM history. This guy is infinitely in over his head, from dropping GR15 into coverage, to calling that same stupid **** delayed blitz that never gets home. He took a defense that he should have had to barely even touch and had people like ga tech marching up and down the field at will on us. At the very least he even admits he's bad ( in comparison to Enos who is like richt in that certain way ), but man how can you be THIS bad with THIS talent.

I get Manny has had teams take it to his defense here and there, but he is 100000000000000000x the coordinator that blake baker is. The FIU game lost me when it came to manny, it showed me he was in over his head at this level of play. But I'd honestly like to see him fire blake and take the defense back under his full control.

I know everyone just wants to burn the shop down, but if you have other thoughts those might be more constructive to post.
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I wouldn't say no one saw it coming. Some of us tried to warn everyone that his career was in a downward spiral for a reason.
 
He fcked himself by hiring a Pro style OC & turning over the Defense to one of his La Tech disciples.

He also needed to bring in a legit LB recruiter, but he stuck with surrounding himself with all his guys.

And what people need to stop saying is what he inherited as if he was elsewhere, Manny was HERE & been here since 2016. He's a first year HC but he's not a year 1 coach to Miami, the culture problem wasn't something that just dropped on his head, he was apart of it & helped recruit it for the last 4 years, he didn't accidentally fall into a bad unmotivated team, he helped create that culture.

I didn't want him in the first place, I felt we should've let him prove himself at Temple before handing over the keys to the ship to him. My top guys were Norvell & Heupel, I've been saying for years we need an offensive guru to take over the team because these Defensive coaches we keep hiring never get the Offense right & always do everything centered around trying to display their "brilliant" Defenses by having a slow paced ball control Pro style offense.

The old adage of Defense winning championships is dying, there are no more dominant Defenses with the rule changes & the modernization of the game. Even teams loaded with 5-star athletes on Defense get gashed all the time, the game now is all about QB play & high octane Offense. The CFB champions were all teams lead by high level QB play in great offenses, from Oh St, to Bama & Clemson, it wasn't their Defenses that won them their titles since the playoff era started.

Manny lost the benefit of the doubt after losing to a god awful GTech team & then losing to a FIU program that was 0-30 vs P5 teams in their school history is what put the nail in the coffin for Diaz. Not even Al Folden or Shannon would've lost to FIU under any circumstances whatsoever.

The reason why he's going to fail hard here is because he won't make changes, Enox should've already been fired, bowl game & early NSD be damned, every single legit team in college football made changes this offseason, they didn't need any excuse of December NSD or a meaningless Bowl game to wait to make moves, the teams that know they needed to make changes did & did so expeditiously, we're the only program sitting around twiddling are thumbs looking like ****** morons. Even AZ St fired multiple coaches on their offensive staff then went & hired Zak Hill as their OC all before NSD & their bowl game & it didn't effect them negatively, in fact they flipped a high 4-star WR from Oregon because they hired an Oregon assistant as their new WR coach, they were aggressive & it paid off.

Manny is going to stupidly stick with Corches on his staff that have proven they're terrible at their job either as play callers, player developers or recruiters. That will be his downfall, stubbornness & rigidity always results in failure. If he wanted to save his job he would have to take a long look in the mirror & come to the realization that his way of doing things isn't working & he needs to take a hard & aggressive approach to fixing the problems, staying pat & doing everything the exact same is just going to prove he's in over his head & will ultimately result in him getting canned.
 
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JimmyJohnsonsHair said:
Why should we believe in him? He recruited half of the players on this team. He introduced the jewelry and put more emphasis on “enthusiasm” than results. He is responsible for the culture. He hired (and/or retained) all of the coaches on this staff. He promised a modern, cutting edge offense and instead hired an offensive coordinator who runs a slow, plodding offense from the late 90’s. He lost to GT, FIU, and Duke. He has given us no reason to believe he is the guy.
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I think Manny understood the blueprint for success at Miami really well coming into the job (aggressive defense and a modern, cutting edge offense etc). Where I think he made mistakes is in the hirings of the OC, OL coach and DC.

No-one gets every hire right. Not even Nick Saban. The key is to swallow your pride as a HC and re-tool when you realize you made a mistake. For example, the Defense looked dramatically different under Baker's leadership (night & day different). On Offense, Manny didn't get the cutting edge offense he was looking for.

Manny has to avoid making Al Golden's mistake...staying blindly loyal to a friend while your coaching career gets completely flushed down the toilet. If Manny wants to be the HC at Miami (or anywhere else), he better make tough decisions or it will finish his career as a HC.
 
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I wouldn’t say I have faith in him, but I haven’t given up on him either. It was a mistake to hire a first time head coach.
He could thoroughly examine his first year and learn from his mistakes, or he could continue to be a dumpster fire. We’ll see.
 
Nope and If you still believe in many Diaz it’s blind faith. You literally can’t point to a single thing that you would measure a coach by and say he’s excellent at it. And he’s ways below average in the 2 most important areas. Manny was so terrible this year I don’t even know if a new OC will say his job. If you just take the transcripts of his interviews you couldn’t tell the difference between him, Golden and Shannon.

Personnel: Terrible, anointed Jarren as they next big thing only to bench him at the 1st since of adversity. Brought in a transfer QB and never gave him a shot despite erratic QB play. Said he didn’t fit the system
1) why was he brought him 2) why not adapt to your best playmaker at the position.
-playing walkons over scholie players in conference games( which are must win)
-giving jimmy Murphy redzone carries ahead of Burns and Lingard. I don’t care about “how cool”
His story is. We have way more talented players who should be given reps.

Culture: terrible, allowing ppl back who quit on the team.
-creating a culture that players feel favoritism is being shown.
-throwing players under the bus publicly

Recruiting: Terrible, said he made a new recruiting rule to not re-recruit de mommies and kids that play games and then begged a low rated 4 star to sign after decommiting twice.
-Failed to get on kids early enough.
-failed to land Key players at positions of need.
-said something stupid like “didn’t realize it’s hard to recruits at 6-6)

Scheme: terrible, failed to adapt to his players best skills.
-was clearly out schemed in CMu, FIU, Duke and Ga Tech.

Motivation: terrible, blamed players saying they “don’t care”.
-multiple life-less performances.


So imo you can give manny an all star staff and while you might be a little better at recruiting or Game planning but unless he completely does a 180 then non of this will matter.
 
Can’t say anything close to the truth with all the slurpers here.

So, don’t worry. Miami will throw hundreds of dollars into this program. We’ll be fine. Just give Mammy time to build this resurgent ACC Coastal dynasty.
 
I never did.

He is a pretty decent defensive coordinator, but he wasn't great or anything. I told this forum years ago that he was overrated by the people on this forum...and he's very very overrated by the slop administration in the Hecht. They buy all of his politician snake oil that comes out of his mouth. The same as they did for Al Golden. They are know nothing nobodies that buy the slick, jive talk.

Miami was given the gift of a lifetime by Mark Richt and it was absolved from the awkward transition of telling Manny Diaz 'thanks but no thanks' after he took the job at Temple.

...and this is what we end up with.
 
mackjones said:
That's probably true, but at least the national CFB media-nexus was talking and writing about Miami, again. And during the regular season Miami had TEN games on national TV... ABC, ESPN, and ESPN-2. But that's all MOOT and irrelevant now. hUh.
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They were mainly talking about how we seemed like a bunch of second graders with our chains, if you were actually paying attention.
 
paksat said:
Surely this thread will turn out well..

Me personally, I can't help but think about what an absolute failure Enos has been for him. When he was hired a lot of people throughout the country called it a slam dunk hire, we had stolen the soon to be offensive coordinator from bama. Man were they wrong... if i'm being honest, and we're all being honest in that regard, is he not the worst most shockingly disappointing coordinator that has ever been hired here? Could he have been any worse man I mean really, the guy is ranked 130th out of 130 teams on 3rd down conversions. No one saw this coming, not any of you knew he was going to be this glaringly bad and there were plenty of you who were not sold on the guy. But at the least you'd figure at his worst he'd be around 80th or 90th in that category?

I was a big manny fan, and I'm hoping he turns it around because he has shown the ability to adapt. He completely dropped that delayed 3rd down safety blitzing crap and we became an incredible defense in doing so. We had basically this same offense and yet we all knew when the defense came out we were gonna get a turn over or a stop a lot of times.

Fast forward to blake baker, a guy completely in over his head as well. Another shockingly borderline horrible hire that rivals even enos in terms of worst coordinators in UM history. This guy is infinitely in over his head, from dropping GR15 into coverage, to calling that same stupid **** delayed blitz that never gets home. He took a defense that he should have had to barely even touch and had people like ga tech marching up and down the field at will on us. At the very least he even admits he's bad ( in comparison to Enos who is like richt in that certain way ), but man how can you be THIS bad with THIS talent.

I get Manny has had teams take it to his defense here and there, but he is 100000000000000000x the coordinator that blake baker is. The FIU game lost me when it came to manny, it showed me he was in over his head at this level of play. But I'd honestly like to see him fire blake and take the defense back under his full control.

I know everyone just wants to burn the shop down, but if you have other thoughts those might be more constructive to post.
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Manny is a first year HC. He was named HC because the prior coach wasn’t performing to everyone’s desire including his own. Manny inherited a team with no QB, no O-line, a weak secondary and an unreliable kicking game. Not sure how anyone expected a great season, anyone! The class of 2018 has some talent, but **** young and not much veteran leadership. The 2019 Class had misses, but also some **** good players, including two big offensive tackles, two big time RB’s, and a QB.

Manny needs to make 2-3 staff changes and help Baker develop. 2020 will tell us more and hopefully we will be surprised. Not ready to fire him, not ready to believe.
 
Umm has anyone from a 6-6 coaching staff been fired as of now???? Don’t think anyone believes in the FSU Cuban Al Golden. Actually I feel the same way about the athletic department. This university has failed the fan base and I think it may be at the point of no return now.
 
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Rellyrell said:
Y do u continue to say he “inherited?” I think we all need to remember MANNY HAS BEEN HERE! He’s equally if not more apart of the culture problem of this current team. Manny didn’t inherit chit! He’s been here since day 2016.
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I think the problems have been on the offensive side, particularly at the QB and WR positions.
 
bocacane said:
I do think he wants to own and turn this thing around. But... is he capable??? The guy needs to 1.BE RUTHLESS and 2. SURROUND HIMSELF WITH EXCELLENCE. Is he able to recognize his coaching issues and cut ties with the guys that did not and will not get it done??? If he does, will he hire real football coaches? Will he get a recruiting system, internal within the football offices and "external" ;)

Next few months is make or break.... its big boy time. Does he have what it takes to be a successful top tier coach leading a top tier program in 2020?
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So if he fires some dudes he becomes a top tier coach? this idiocy is why he got hired in the first place.

“man hes such a savage he fired the old offensive staff!” is not a qualification for being a major programs head coach.
 
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