Does anyone still actually believe in Manny?

[TheOldU2002]

He's fighting an uphill battle every step of the way, just like every coach will after him.

Let's look at the facts.

We haven't been a prominent program since any of our potential recruits have been cognizant.

We don't compete for national championships, let alone conference championships.

We don't have a loyal or big fanbase, in fact the fanbase is dwindling as what's there to be a fan of if you didn't go to school here or weren't from our glory days?

We don't offer a big traditional type of college campus environment. Our players aren't revered the way they are at the big schools. Oh, we've got SOBE, so what? These players are a small fish in a big pond there. Do we want a team full of players who came here so they can live it up in SOBE?

We have nice facilities, but are more on the level of UCF and USF than FSU or UF, nevermind all the other competition we have for recruits.

We aren't financially set. We have some money, but we'll never compete for top tier coaches that are established so we'll always be looking for the next up and comer. That trickles down to assistants, support staff, etc.

The gap is growing, not getting smaller. The one thing we have is talent around us, but how do you sell it to them? You want to go play wherever, your friends and family can now tune in every weekend via television or the net. While it isn't the same, video calls can close the distance.

These locals aren't even loyal to their teammates and schools, changing schools on a whim. Why would they be loyal to us?

I know everyone wants a return, but I'm skeptical it'll ever happen. No way it does on the level it did before. It's cute to say, we only care about national championships, but that ignores the reality of who we've become and are. A chance every 5 to 10 years is as realistic as it gets today in the modern game. Our run, it's ancient history.

So will he get it done? Seems unlikely. What is getting it done here though? It's better than what we did this year. Should be challenging for the Coastal for sure. Say we do that yearly, I'm sure many here will want more. So you get rid of the guy and get whomever. Odds are he won't do much better. The odds aren't in our favor. This isn't the early 80's where we're ahead of the game changing the way it's played. Maybe we'll luck into that guy though. B

what kind of soft shouldered **** is this?

you morons think its some magic cloud that keeps this program down.

manny diaz is a nobody, whose best offer was Temple. he never played for or coached under a championship coach. he was never around winning programs. he was a mediocre DC who had some great years and some horrible years. hes an awful position coach and a poor recruiter.

given those facts, why are you suprised hes done so poorly?

 

[TheOldU2002]

meh, losing hope fast, but this is college football and turnarounds can happen fast. All it would take is a 9-10 win season to get this things trending in the right direction. It all depends on how he learns from his first year as a HC, he seems like a smart guy. He is still the guy who came in and changed our defense and improved every year. So hopefully Manny can smarten up and make the changes that must be made to make those improvements.

jesus another moron who thinks he performed some miracle with our defense and that he’s “smart”. he went to FSU hes a moron.

 

[TheOldU2002]

He had a bad first year. Hopefully he will get better.

I like his personality and I think he has potential. Need to get lucky with a QB.

so you think he’s cool and that means he should be the head coach here.

fans like u are why we suck. completely clueless.

 

[TheOldU2002]

I think Manny understood the blueprint for success at Miami really well coming into the job (aggressive defense and a modern, cutting edge offense etc). Where I think he made mistakes is in the hirings of the OC, OL coach and DC.

No-one gets every hire right. Not even Nick Saban. The key is to swallow your pride as a HC and re-tool when you realize you made a mistake. For example, the Defense looked dramatically different under Baker's leadership (night & day different). On Offense, Manny didn't get the cutting edge offense he was looking for.

Manny has to avoid making Al Golden's mistake...staying blindly loyal to a friend while your coaching career gets completely flushed down the toilet. If Manny wants to be the HC at Miami (or anywhere else), he better make tough decisions or it will finish his career as a HC.

you really think that this job is simply understanding some “blueprint”? how ******* naive are you?

if only randy or al knew the secret blueprint!

 

[MiaCane01]

Nothing like inheriting a culture problem and asking literally every player who quit on the team to come back

That's because he didn't inherit it, he helped created it(chains, rings)

 

[Stylie]

 

[TruCane81]

I think he knows what's wrong. He's stated it even before season began. It's not like he's not trying to fix it. He is just new at this and going through some lumps. In hindsight should never have been hired. Not his fault he is essentially under a fundraiser and marketer who is just pretending to be AD. Not sure Manny can fix the mess but never should have been put in that position. I will still root for the team and its success regardless.

The coaching staff has been responsible for the poor culture for a long time.

Every corch says he needs his players, gets them, but still fails.

Players are not stupid. You can’t convince them to be accountable when they see incompetence causing them to fail. It creates a hopeless atmosphere and they end up laughing at and tuning out the people who are supposed to lead them.

We keep hiring stubborn guys who don’t fit and can’t adjust to who they have. They never do ANYTHING when they leave here, but fans want to blame the recruiting base for losses. It’s insane.

Nepotism, favoritism, and incompetence. Coordinators stubbornly misuse players in rigid philosophies that don’t fit and produce all time bad units while dwelling at the BOTTOM in national team statistics.

But nobody gets fired. Guys quit and come back. Looks like they have good reason to quit and the staff admits it when they reinstate these guys.

The players are waiting to be lead by a guy with the balls to look them in the eye, be HONEST with them, kick their butt, and hold EVERYONE in the building accountable to championship standards, STARTING with the guys who get paid six and seven figures to teach them how to win.

Richt was the closest we have had to that in two decades. He put up solid seasons with HUGE flaws.

We can win 10 games with just a touch of competence, even when the coach is semi retired and hires is unqualified son among other gaffes.

If by some miracle, this administration figures out to hire a GOOD (not even great, just good) head coach, this nightmare will be over quickly.

 

[Stingarov]

Regarding Enos, go back and check the threads from when he was hired. There were a handful of us who absolutely hated the hire from day 1, but the rest of this board was having a collective circle jerk because we “stole him from Bama”.

The only one rewriting history is the guy you're replying to. You were one of the most skeptical.

 

[BoxingRobes]

I'm howling.

 

[simplycanes]

No, he's clearly not the guy to turn Miami around, HC'ing virgin or not.

I don't see how a guy that loses to GT, Duke, UNC and FIU can get it right with another year.

It was a mistake to hire him, it is a bigger one to retain him.

There's just too many red flags continuing to pile up, for example, our offensive line recruiting was putrid; moreover, it was downright negligent if he intends on retaining this offensive coordinator and using the same system again.

 

[JD08]

Had he selected the right OC, he'd be 10-2 at the worst right now, possibly even undefeated. How many people here would be saying we hit a home run?

How long would it have taken to discover? The first bowl game against a major opponent?

We're kinda lucky he sht the bed right from the get go. We could have had 4 years of misery instead of 2.

 

[Swampcity]

I think he knows what's wrong. He's stated it even before season began. It's not like he's not trying to fix it. He is just new at this and going through some lumps. In hindsight should never have been hired. Not his fault he is essentially under a fundraiser and marketer who is just pretending to be AD. Not sure Manny can fix the mess but never should have been put in that position. I will still root for the team and its success regardless.

Perhaps, but I think you might be a *********.

 

[WR Cane]

NO

 

[TruCane81]

Lmao believe is a stretch...always been wait n see after 2 years judge the results

Signed: CIS’s favorite slurper

The signs of a corch are there.

We will know if he has it if he makes the aggressive changes necessary.

If nothing else, he can by himself time doing that. But if he is stubborn and stays pat, rolling out another 4 plus loss season oblivious to reality, there will be woe unto Manny Diaz.

You think it’s nasty now? Nothing makes this fan base toxic like stubborn, know it all coaches running the team into the ground whille coddling failing staff members.

 

[Salt]

Perhaps, but I think you might be a *********.

Absolutely. And I would also include those with nearly 2000 posts as well!

 

[TruCane81]

He jumped the shark during the fiu loss. Looked confused and desperate. No great coach or likely great one ever looks like he did. Pass.

This is the biggest reason I think he will more than likely fail.

His body language when facing adversity allows the team to see his confidence is a mask.

The infamous Butch handshake photo showed how shook he is.

Most people don’t recover from being shook like that, let alone fbs head coaches.

 

[305to954]

The signs of a corch are there.

We will know if he has it if he makes the aggressive changes necessary.

If nothing else, he can by himself time doing that. But if he is stubborn and stays pat, rolling out another 4 plus loss season oblivious to reality, there will be woe unto Manny Diaz.

You think it’s nasty now? Nothing makes this fan base toxic like stubborn, know it all coaches running the team into the ground whille coddling failing staff members.

okay

 

[Ethnicsands]

Trajan Bandy says he believes in Manure, it’s just a thing.

 

[sdaly12]

Is this OP a joke? About 70% of this website is still slurping Manny.

About 25% of this website is openly slurping Manny, and about 45% of this website is pretending (in many cases only about half pretending) to not be slurping him.

Manny will have plenty of slurpers until he gets fired after 4 seasons. Whenever he has a win or 2, the slurpers will stop pretending to not be slurpers. And some people will be slurping him even after bad losses.

That’s the way it works with every bad Miami coach. And since some people like Manny’s fake swagger, it’ll be especially extreme with him.

fake swagger 100% correct, we look so amazingly stupid with those chains.....

 

[Ethnicsands]

Had he selected the right OC, he'd be 10-2 at the worst right now, possibly even undefeated. How many people here would be saying we hit a home run?

How long would it have taken to discover? The first bowl game against a major opponent?

We're kinda lucky he sht the bed right from the get go. We could have had 4 years of misery instead of 2.

The man got curb stomped by FIU and you’re imagining he’d be 12-0 if only he had a different OC?

Wow.