Do you want Charlie Strong to be Miami's next head coach?

[FullyERicht]

Hey DMoney here's my challenge to you:

Take Strong in one corner. Pit him against Butch, Gundy, Herman, Mullen, Richt, Pagano, and Patterson. If you think we should hire Charlie, then you must think he's better than those guys. Please provide cogent arguments as to how he is superior to those candidates.

 

[DMoney]

How is a man who coached in small towns his entire career a fit here?

Jimmy coached in small towns. Dennis coached in small towns. What does this have to with anything?

His defenses at UF and SC were as a coordinator. Randy is a good coordinator. Should we rehire him?

Shannon only had success in one place. He hasn't called defenses since. Strong has built elite defenses at three schools. The difference between the two is obvious.

His recruiting in SFl is the result of Clint Hurtt, who is now banned from the NCAA.

Strong has been recruiting South Florida since Hurtt was a kid. Aside from Teddy (who openly said he picked Louisville because of Strong), the players Strong recruited to Louisville were nobodies. His success down here was based on an eye for talent.

Randy was twice the coordinator, was actually from here, and coached here.

How is Randy, the guy who can't get a job calling defenses, "twice the coordinator" as Strong? Please back that statement up. Of course, you can't.

DMoney, if Charlie Strong was white you wouldn't give even a moment's thought to hiring him. You knw it, I know it. The whole board knows it. It's disgusting how you would put your personal agenda over the betterment of the program.

I'm not black.

I'm intrigued by Strong because I've been watching his defenses for 15 years. They play the way I want Miami to play. Watching our defense during the Golden era has taken years off my life. I saw the energy and attitude his teams played with. I saw the way he targeted local players that I wanted Miami to go after. That's why he's on my list.

 

[DMoney]

Hey DMoney here's my challenge to you:

Take Strong in one corner. Pit him against Butch, Gundy, Herman, Mullen, Richt, Pagano, and Patterson. If you think we should hire Charlie, then you must think he's better than those guys. Please provide cogent arguments as to how he is superior to those candidates.

I didn't realize those guys were knocking down the door to come to Miami. You must have information I don't have.

Butch wants to be here. Butch is ahead of Charlie on my list. The rest of those guys have given no indication they are interested. If they are interested, that would change my list.

 

[DMoney]

Here's why people say he's a bad fit at Texas and a better fit here:

- He built elite defenses at South Carolina, Florida and Louisville. They played with swagger and were dominant. His defense at Texas is bad. I believe Texas is the outlier. Considering the makeup of Miami's roster and talent base, I believe we will be closer to the first three examples.

- Texas has horrible quarterbacks in a conference where you need a good quarterback. We have a good quarterback.

- The Texas high school coaches turned on him because he said he wanted to focus his recruiting in Florida. We are located in the state of Florida.

- The boosters were against Strong from the start, as were many of the fans. The Texas job is notorious for its glad-handing and media requirements. Miami doesn't have those issues.

- Texas is the most overrated program in all of sports. Aside from one year with Vince Young, they have been underachieving losers for 40 years. We are Miami and will win big whenever we have a good coach.

I believe Strong is a good coach and can win here. I understand why others disagree. A small minority are motivated by race. You can tell who they are because they are the first to bring it up. Most are simply turned off by what happened at Texas. I can understand that.

But fit and circumstances need to be considered when evaluating any coach. Chris Peterson was a miracle worker at Boise State and is currently 2-5 in the Pac-10 with Washington. Rich Rodriguez was our dream coach until he flopped at Michigan. Gary Patterson was "exposed" as a coach when TCU moved to the Big 12, and now he's the toast of football. Howard Schnellenberger was an outright failure as a head coach until he got to Miami.

Some people are taking too black and white of an approach to Strong. Are there concerns about his ability to build a staff and an offense? Absolutely. But to compare his track record to someone like Shannon is asinine. He has had a ton of success across several programs.

Would he be successful here? Who knows. I think he would fix our defense, have us playing with toughness and energy, and stock up our roster with talent. I have concerns about his offense, which is why he's third on my list. But he would definitely be a better fit here than the ****hole in Austin.

I'm asking this, respectfully:

How is Charlie Strong any different from Will Muschamp?

And would you hire Will Muschamp?

Strong has built good teams as head coach. Muschamp's only "good" team got brutalized by Charlie Strong's team.

 

[MIATL]

Here's why people say he's a bad fit at Texas and a better fit here:

- He built elite defenses at South Carolina, Florida and Louisville. They played with swagger and were dominant. His defense at Texas is bad. I believe Texas is the outlier. Considering the makeup of Miami's roster and talent base, I believe we will be closer to the first three examples.

- Texas has horrible quarterbacks in a conference where you need a good quarterback. We have a good quarterback.

- The Texas high school coaches turned on him because he said he wanted to focus his recruiting in Florida. We are located in the state of Florida.

- The boosters were against Strong from the start, as were many of the fans. The Texas job is notorious for its glad-handing and media requirements. Miami doesn't have those issues.

- Texas is the most overrated program in all of sports. Aside from one year with Vince Young, they have been underachieving losers for 40 years. We are Miami and will win big whenever we have a good coach.

I believe Strong is a good coach and can win here. I understand why others disagree. A small minority are motivated by race. You can tell who they are because they are the first to bring it up. Most are simply turned off by what happened at Texas. I can understand that.

But fit and circumstances need to be considered when evaluating any coach. Chris Peterson was a miracle worker at Boise State and is currently 2-5 in the Pac-10 with Washington. Rich Rodriguez was our dream coach until he flopped at Michigan. Gary Patterson was "exposed" as a coach when TCU moved to the Big 12, and now he's the toast of football. Howard Schnellenberger was an outright failure as a head coach until he got to Miami.

Some people are taking too black and white of an approach to Strong. Are there concerns about his ability to build a staff and an offense? Absolutely. But to compare his track record to someone like Shannon is asinine. He has had a ton of success across several programs.

Would he be successful here? Who knows. I think he would fix our defense, have us playing with toughness and energy, and stock up our roster with talent. I have concerns about his offense, which is why he's third on my list. But he would definitely be a better fit here than the ****hole in Austin.

I'm asking this, respectfully:

How is Charlie Strong any different from Will Muschamp?

And would you hire Will Muschamp?

Bump.

Because I'm really curious.

Strong's resume is similar to Muschamps. And the thing that undid Muschamp at Florida is the same thing hurting Strong at Texas, IMO.

How are they different, to you [MENTION=2]DMoney[/MENTION]?

 

[FullyERicht]

How is a man who coached in small towns his entire career a fit here?

Jimmy coached in small towns. Dennis coached in small towns. What does this have to with anything?

His defenses at UF and SC were as a coordinator. Randy is a good coordinator. Should we rehire him?

Shannon only had success in one place. He hasn't called defenses since. Strong has built elite defenses at three schools. The difference between the two is obvious.

His recruiting in SFl is the result of Clint Hurtt, who is now banned from the NCAA.

Strong has been recruiting South Florida since Hurtt was a kid. Aside from Teddy (who openly said he picked Louisville because of Strong), the players Strong recruited to Louisville were nobodies. His success down here was based on an eye for talent.

Randy was twice the coordinator, was actually from here, and coached here.

How is Randy, the guy who can't get a job calling defenses, "twice the coordinator" as Strong? Please back that statement up. Of course, you can't.

DMoney, if Charlie Strong was white you wouldn't give even a moment's thought to hiring him. You knw it, I know it. The whole board knows it. It's disgusting how you would put your personal agenda over the betterment of the program.

I'm not black.

I'm intrigued by Strong because I've been watching his defenses for 15 years. They play the way I want Miami to play. Watching our defense during the Golden era has taken years off my life. I saw the energy and attitude his teams played with. I saw the way he targeted local players that I wanted Miami to go after. That's why he's on my list.

So in other words what makes Strong a "fit" for you is that he was a good DC?

So "fit" means "can coach defense". Yet, at Texas, he has a defense in the 90s. So maybe he can't actually coach defense now that he has to play real competition? Now that he doesn't have a co-DC and Urban holding his hand?

I've been watching football twice as long as 15 years. And I can tell you this:

a good DC doesn't make a good HC. That's all strong is. Now at Louisville when you play one ranked team and a bunch of American Conference teams that works out fine. But when you are running a major conference program, it's not good enough.

Randy had 5 years out of 6 as a top 10 defense. I'd take his defenses over Strongs any day of the weak, based on scheme alone. Do you even know what Strongs defense is?

Please tell me how Strong is better than Butch, Herman, Pagano, Richt, Gundy etc. without saying "well he had a 15th ranked defense at South Carolina!"

 

[DMoney]

Here's why people say he's a bad fit at Texas and a better fit here:

- He built elite defenses at South Carolina, Florida and Louisville. They played with swagger and were dominant. His defense at Texas is bad. I believe Texas is the outlier. Considering the makeup of Miami's roster and talent base, I believe we will be closer to the first three examples.

- Texas has horrible quarterbacks in a conference where you need a good quarterback. We have a good quarterback.

- The Texas high school coaches turned on him because he said he wanted to focus his recruiting in Florida. We are located in the state of Florida.

- The boosters were against Strong from the start, as were many of the fans. The Texas job is notorious for its glad-handing and media requirements. Miami doesn't have those issues.

- Texas is the most overrated program in all of sports. Aside from one year with Vince Young, they have been underachieving losers for 40 years. We are Miami and will win big whenever we have a good coach.

I believe Strong is a good coach and can win here. I understand why others disagree. A small minority are motivated by race. You can tell who they are because they are the first to bring it up. Most are simply turned off by what happened at Texas. I can understand that.

But fit and circumstances need to be considered when evaluating any coach. Chris Peterson was a miracle worker at Boise State and is currently 2-5 in the Pac-10 with Washington. Rich Rodriguez was our dream coach until he flopped at Michigan. Gary Patterson was "exposed" as a coach when TCU moved to the Big 12, and now he's the toast of football. Howard Schnellenberger was an outright failure as a head coach until he got to Miami.

Some people are taking too black and white of an approach to Strong. Are there concerns about his ability to build a staff and an offense? Absolutely. But to compare his track record to someone like Shannon is asinine. He has had a ton of success across several programs.

Would he be successful here? Who knows. I think he would fix our defense, have us playing with toughness and energy, and stock up our roster with talent. I have concerns about his offense, which is why he's third on my list. But he would definitely be a better fit here than the ****hole in Austin.

I'm asking this, respectfully:

How is Charlie Strong any different from Will Muschamp?

And would you hire Will Muschamp?

Bump.

Because I'm really curious.

Strong's resume is similar to Muschamps. And the thing that undid Muschamp at Florida is the same thing hurting Strong at Texas, IMO.

How are they different, to you @DMoney?

See post #104 .

 

[FullyERicht]

Here's why people say he's a bad fit at Texas and a better fit here:

- He built elite defenses at South Carolina, Florida and Louisville. They played with swagger and were dominant. His defense at Texas is bad. I believe Texas is the outlier. Considering the makeup of Miami's roster and talent base, I believe we will be closer to the first three examples.

- Texas has horrible quarterbacks in a conference where you need a good quarterback. We have a good quarterback.

- The Texas high school coaches turned on him because he said he wanted to focus his recruiting in Florida. We are located in the state of Florida.

- The boosters were against Strong from the start, as were many of the fans. The Texas job is notorious for its glad-handing and media requirements. Miami doesn't have those issues.

- Texas is the most overrated program in all of sports. Aside from one year with Vince Young, they have been underachieving losers for 40 years. We are Miami and will win big whenever we have a good coach.

I believe Strong is a good coach and can win here. I understand why others disagree. A small minority are motivated by race. You can tell who they are because they are the first to bring it up. Most are simply turned off by what happened at Texas. I can understand that.

But fit and circumstances need to be considered when evaluating any coach. Chris Peterson was a miracle worker at Boise State and is currently 2-5 in the Pac-10 with Washington. Rich Rodriguez was our dream coach until he flopped at Michigan. Gary Patterson was "exposed" as a coach when TCU moved to the Big 12, and now he's the toast of football. Howard Schnellenberger was an outright failure as a head coach until he got to Miami.

Some people are taking too black and white of an approach to Strong. Are there concerns about his ability to build a staff and an offense? Absolutely. But to compare his track record to someone like Shannon is asinine. He has had a ton of success across several programs.

Would he be successful here? Who knows. I think he would fix our defense, have us playing with toughness and energy, and stock up our roster with talent. I have concerns about his offense, which is why he's third on my list. But he would definitely be a better fit here than the ****hole in Austin.

I'm asking this, respectfully:

How is Charlie Strong any different from Will Muschamp?

And would you hire Will Muschamp?

Strong has built good teams as head coach. Muschamp's only "good" team got brutalized by Charlie Strong's team.

Al Golden built a good team at a lower conference as well. Do you realize how pathetic his competition at UL was? What is a more realistic comparison for the Miami job: success in the American, or complete failure in the Big 12?

 

[MIATL]

Here's why people say he's a bad fit at Texas and a better fit here:

- He built elite defenses at South Carolina, Florida and Louisville. They played with swagger and were dominant. His defense at Texas is bad. I believe Texas is the outlier. Considering the makeup of Miami's roster and talent base, I believe we will be closer to the first three examples.

- Texas has horrible quarterbacks in a conference where you need a good quarterback. We have a good quarterback.

- The Texas high school coaches turned on him because he said he wanted to focus his recruiting in Florida. We are located in the state of Florida.

- The boosters were against Strong from the start, as were many of the fans. The Texas job is notorious for its glad-handing and media requirements. Miami doesn't have those issues.

- Texas is the most overrated program in all of sports. Aside from one year with Vince Young, they have been underachieving losers for 40 years. We are Miami and will win big whenever we have a good coach.

I believe Strong is a good coach and can win here. I understand why others disagree. A small minority are motivated by race. You can tell who they are because they are the first to bring it up. Most are simply turned off by what happened at Texas. I can understand that.

But fit and circumstances need to be considered when evaluating any coach. Chris Peterson was a miracle worker at Boise State and is currently 2-5 in the Pac-10 with Washington. Rich Rodriguez was our dream coach until he flopped at Michigan. Gary Patterson was "exposed" as a coach when TCU moved to the Big 12, and now he's the toast of football. Howard Schnellenberger was an outright failure as a head coach until he got to Miami.

Some people are taking too black and white of an approach to Strong. Are there concerns about his ability to build a staff and an offense? Absolutely. But to compare his track record to someone like Shannon is asinine. He has had a ton of success across several programs.

Would he be successful here? Who knows. I think he would fix our defense, have us playing with toughness and energy, and stock up our roster with talent. I have concerns about his offense, which is why he's third on my list. But he would definitely be a better fit here than the ****hole in Austin.

I'm asking this, respectfully:

How is Charlie Strong any different from Will Muschamp?

And would you hire Will Muschamp?

Strong has built good teams as head coach. Muschamp's only "good" team got brutalized by Charlie Strong's team.

So, the one game they played each other?

OK.

I'm not sure I agree, but if that's the criteria, ok ...

Does that head-to-head result eval apply to all coaches, or just if you're looking to validate an opinion?

Again, I'm being respectful ...

But Charlie Strong and Will Muschamp look like the same coach, to me.

 

[FullyERicht]

DMoney is the classic reactionary fan. Miami recruiting off lists? Lets bring in a local guy (Randy). Miami disorganized and HC is bad with the media? Lets bring in the salesman (Golden). Miami struggling on D? Let's bring in a DC as HC!

 

[DMoney]

So, the one game they played each other?

OK.

I'm not sure I agree, but if that's the criteria, ok ...

Does that head-to-head result eval apply to all coaches, or just if you're looking to validate an opinion?

Again, I'm being respectful ...

But Charlie Strong and Will Muschamp look like the same coach, to me.

It's not about the one game. I just used that as an example of Strong's Louisville teams versus Muschamp's Florida teams.

Strong was able to build a complete team at Louisville. They were good at receiver, running back, OL, quarterback and had a nasty defense. That team operated like a vintage Miami team, albeit with less talent.

Muschamp's Florida teams only played defense. They were a dumpster fire otherwise. I don't think he can evaluate talent or build a team half as well as Strong.

 

[MIATL]

So, the one game they played each other?

OK.

I'm not sure I agree, but if that's the criteria, ok ...

Does that head-to-head result eval apply to all coaches, or just if you're looking to validate an opinion?

Again, I'm being respectful ...

But Charlie Strong and Will Muschamp look like the same coach, to me.

It's not about the one game. I just used that as an example of Strong's Louisville teams versus Muschamp's Florida teams.

Strong was able to build a complete team at Louisville. They were good at receiver, running back, OL, quarterback and had a nasty defense. That team operated like a vintage Miami team, albeit with less talent.

Muschamp's Florida teams only played defense. They were a dumpster fire otherwise. I don't think he can evaluate talent or build a team half as well as Strong.

Do you think Strong benefited at all from recruiting at Louisville after Shannon was fired?

Seems to me, Strong was able to grab a bunch of SoFla kids who wanted to play for Shannon ... Then, decided to play for Strong after Randy was fired.

Is it your position that he would be able to re-capture that approach at Miami?

And who would you suggest as OC to offset Strong's deficiency on that side of the ball?

 

[Mira60]

YES , Bring on Charlie he's younger and stronger than Botch !!

 

[DMoney]

Do you think Strong benefited at all from recruiting at Louisville after Shannon was fired?

Not really. Most of the guys he recruited were guys we didn't want. He also was a beast outside of South Florida. DeVante Parker, Calvin Pryor and Marcus Smith were all three-stars who developed into first rounders. Lorenzo Maudlin was another underrated guy who developed into a beast.

Bridgewater was the only guy who fits your criteria, and I think the credit has to go to Strong. Bridgewater could have gone to any number of schools, but he picked Louisville because of Strong.

As far as the OC, I still like Dorsey.

 

[Katzenboyer]

Here's why people say he's a bad fit at Texas and a better fit here:

- He built elite defenses at South Carolina, Florida and Louisville. They played with swagger and were dominant. His defense at Texas is bad. I believe Texas is the outlier. Considering the makeup of Miami's roster and talent base, I believe we will be closer to the first three examples.

- Texas has horrible quarterbacks in a conference where you need a good quarterback. We have a good quarterback.

- The Texas high school coaches turned on him because he said he wanted to focus his recruiting in Florida. We are located in the state of Florida.

- The boosters were against Strong from the start, as were many of the fans. The Texas job is notorious for its glad-handing and media requirements. Miami doesn't have those issues.

- Texas is the most overrated program in all of sports. Aside from one year with Vince Young, they have been underachieving losers for 40 years. We are Miami and will win big whenever we have a good coach.

I believe Strong is a good coach and can win here. I understand why others disagree. A small minority are motivated by race. You can tell who they are because they are the first to bring it up. Most are simply turned off by what happened at Texas. I can understand that.

But fit and circumstances need to be considered when evaluating any coach. Chris Peterson was a miracle worker at Boise State and is currently 2-5 in the Pac-10 with Washington. Rich Rodriguez was our dream coach until he flopped at Michigan. Gary Patterson was "exposed" as a coach when TCU moved to the Big 12, and now he's the toast of football. Howard Schnellenberger was an outright failure as a head coach until he got to Miami.

Some people are taking too black and white of an approach to Strong. Are there concerns about his ability to build a staff and an offense? Absolutely. But to compare his track record to someone like Shannon is asinine. He has had a ton of success across several programs.

Would he be successful here? Who knows. I think he would fix our defense, have us playing with toughness and energy, and stock up our roster with talent. I have concerns about his offense, which is why he's third on my list. But he would definitely be a better fit here than the ****hole in Austin.

I'm asking this, respectfully:

How is Charlie Strong any different from Will Muschamp?

And would you hire Will Muschamp?

Strong has built good teams as head coach. Muschamp's only "good" team got brutalized by Charlie Strong's team.

Al Golden built a good team at a lower conference as well. Do you realize how pathetic his competition at UL was? What is a more realistic comparison for the Miami job: success in the American, or complete failure in the Big 12?

Brian Kelly was hired by ND after Big East/AAC success. Urban Meyer was hired by UF after Mountain West success. Jim Tressel didn't even coach a D-1A program when he was hired by a major school.

By your (completely silly) logic, none of those guys deserved a shot because they played "pathetic competition."

 

[01Canes]

Here's why I voted no...

Bad fit?

I cringe any time I hear the words "bad fit" to justify a coach's failures elsewhere. We all heard it with Golden for years. Some were even saying he was just a good coach who got fired because he was a bad fit at Miami. No. He's an awful football coach. Fit had nothing to do with Golden's failure. Furthermore, any perceived political recruiting issues or booster support have nothing to do with a drastic Year 2 regression for Strong at Texas. The on-field product is an atrocity.

Strong's tenure at Texas is an embarrassment

I've mentioned the numbers at Texas ad nauseum in Strong threads. Yes, they're rebuilding and face a pretty tough strength of schedule. But I place much more weight on watching him coach at Texas against high-powered up-tempo spreads than at Louisville against far less potent offenses. Total offense and defense ranked in the 90s. 37.5 PPG allowed in 6 losses. Shutout by Iowa State a few weeks ago. Recruiting class ranked 50th with only 3 four-star commits. The wheels are falling off and it's only going to get worse.

Possible recruiting liability after massive failure at UT, especially offensively

Some talk about how Charlie Strong would recruit much better here. But Al Golden was once viewed as a great recruiter until his flaws on the sidelines were exposed for the whole world to see. Well, Charlie Strong's on the verge of going 4-8 and leading UT to their first back-to-back losing seasons in over 25 years. If UT gets him off their hands and the dopes at UM are waiting for him with open arms, the stink from his Texas tenure will be fresh and unavoidable.

How can anyone have the slightest bit of confidence in Strong to even be an above average recruiter after a season that disastrous at Texas? Premier recruits from South Florida want to play for winners. Winning matters more than relationships or any other perceived factor. Strong earned his opportunity on the big stage and is falling flat on his face. I'd have serious, serious reservations about Strong's ability to recruit after doing so horribly at Texas, especially with So. Fla. skill talent considering his complete lack of offensive identity.

People can talk about politics until the cows come home to try to explain away how their current class is ranked 50th, but guess what? Their 2015 class was ranked 9th. The five best players in that class were in-state studs from Texas. The dropoff isn't due to politics. Local coaches not wanting too many high school players from Florida filling up their class isn't the reason premier So. Fla. recruits aren't committed there right now. It's all due to unexpected regression and an appallingly insufficient on-field product.

The perception of Strong is only going to get worse after Texas presumably allows 100+ points in their next 2 games against Texas Tech and Baylor. Miami would be sending Strong a life raft ala Penn State after the 2013 season if they decided to hire Golden instead of James Franklin.

Offensive nightmare

Charlie Strong's offense at Texas is disgracefully bad. Some just want our defense fixed and believe that will solve most of our problems. Our offense is just as broken. A Charlie Strong-led offense scares the crap out of me because I can't stand to see our greatest built-in advantage continue to be squandered by a defensive-minded coach who's maddeningly conservative and inept offensively. A third straight hire who represents that would be unbearable to deal with. Not again.

 

[AsylumGodfather]

Butch Davis Coming and Strong will be his DC

 

[Jassid82]

Hey DMoney here's my challenge to you:

Take Strong in one corner. Pit him against Butch, Gundy, Herman, Mullen, Richt, Pagano, and Patterson. If you think we should hire Charlie, then you must think he's better than those guys. Please provide cogent arguments as to how he is superior to those candidates.

I didn't realize those guys were knocking down the door to come to Miami. You must have information I don't have.

Butch wants to be here. Butch is ahead of Charlie on my list. The rest of those guys have given no indication they are interested. If they are interested, that would change my list.

And this is my thought. People keep throwing phantom names out there like Herman, Fuente, Mullen, Patterson, etc like these coaches have given any indication whatsoever that they are interested in coming here. There hasnt even been BAD RUMORS about any of them being interested. Why do we constantly throw their names out there like there is legit interest when there probably isnt..

Butch is one on my list. That is the only reason why I wouldnt want Strong. Because if you hire Strong you should **** sure have hired Butch. I dont hate Strong. He scares me but I think he would recruit the **** out of SoFla. BUT can he hire a good staff? That is one huge notch Butch has over him. Butch has the respect. Will any good coordinator follow Strong?

Strong is hated on here more then Al Golden. But I agree he shouldnt be Option A or B.

 

[01Canes]

Hey DMoney here's my challenge to you:

Take Strong in one corner. Pit him against Butch, Gundy, Herman, Mullen, Richt, Pagano, and Patterson. If you think we should hire Charlie, then you must think he's better than those guys. Please provide cogent arguments as to how he is superior to those candidates.

I didn't realize those guys were knocking down the door to come to Miami. You must have information I don't have.

Butch wants to be here. Butch is ahead of Charlie on my list. The rest of those guys have given no indication they are interested. If they are interested, that would change my list.

And this is my thought. People keep throwing phantom names out there like Herman, Fuente, Mullen, Patterson, etc like these coaches have given any indication whatsoever that they are interested in coming here. There hasnt even been BAD RUMORS about any of them being interested. Why do we constantly throw their names out there like there is legit interest when there probably isnt..

Butch is one on my list. That is the only reason why I wouldnt want Strong. Because if you hire Strong you should **** sure have hired Butch. I dont hate Strong. He scares me but I think he would recruit the **** out of SoFla. BUT can he hire a good staff? That is one huge notch Butch has over him. Butch has the respect. Will any good coordinator follow Strong?

Strong is hated on here more then Al Golden. But I agree he shouldnt be Option A or B.

That isn't even remotely close to being true.