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Do we actually need to leave ACC?

Look at where Miami is now. Ranked #1 in the polls, yet every single CFB fan is saying the exact same thing: "Who has Miami played?" Its a valid question. The answer, We've played the ACC. And yet the marketplace thinks that's insufficient to be considered #1.

While doing this, Miami is making X amount of revenue.

If Miami goes independent, their strength of schedule will be similar to what it is this season (doo doo). And in doing so, they will make significantly more revenue than X.

How is going independent not a no-brainer?
 
9oh4Cane said:
Not to mention the attendance is going to suck until we get out of the ACC. The conference games are completely unexciting
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Go look at Rutgers home schedule this year.

USC, Indiana, Michigan, Nebraska, Michigan State.

Then add in the SEC and BIG10 scheduling agreement. You could get another big home game. I would kill for that home schedule. The closest we got was last year with Notre Dame and Florida, and even that was nowhere near what it could be.
 
You mean should we stay in a conference where we're not maximizing our potential revenue, where we are scheduled 3 friday/thursday night games (4 actually before they moved VT to saturday), and where the refs absolutely hate us? Absolutely not.
 
The author fundamentally tries to make one point. The ACC might make less money, but it's an easier path to the playoffs. The flaw in this argument is that without the resources you cannot afford the best players/ facilities (coaching, consultants etc.)

You can make the playoffs easier, but with a less talented team overall then if you had better resources.
 
Regardless of the money, which is a huge huge reason why we need to leave. For playoff sake, ACC is going to get more and more disrespected if Clemson and FSU continue on their path.

A 4 loss SEC/Big 10 team is likely to get into a 24 team playoff, for comparison a 3 loss ACC team likely won't. Now I personally think it is easier to go 5-4 in the SEC/Big 10 and schedule 3 cupcakes for the remaining 3, then going 10-2 with the ACC when naturally, no matter how good you are, it is easy to drop a game or two against inferior opponents. You can see that with Miami last year and Georgia losing to Auburn this year. If you look at the top teams in the SEC this year, most of their loses actually came to inferior opponents in the line of Miami losing to an ACC opponent.

Being able to lose 4 games, in the Big 10/SEC (which usually equates to the 4 tough opponents you play in the Big 10/SEC as Arkansas, Purdue, etc. still exist) makes it very difficult a top spending/recruiting team to ever miss the playoff. How many times would Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, or even Michigan have missed the playoffs in the last 10 years with a 24 team playoff?
 
9oh4Cane said:
Not to mention the attendance is going to suck until we get out of the ACC. The conference games are completely unexciting
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Do you think attendance for a game with Rutgers will improve now that they are in Big 10? Gloating OT that I posted a couple years ago, I graduated from Lafayette in 69. Up until then, we played both Temple and Rutgers but they both terminated the series. With minor flashes, both have sucked since.
 
Last year, we made it literally as far as you can make it and we STILL made about as much money as Rutgers. Let that sink in.

We can’t guarantee making it that far every year, but we can guarantee getting that same chunk of change by moving. It’s a no brainer.
 
The worst thing ever to happen to the ACC is that Clemson & FSU became dog**** when Miami started to become good. Same with VT/UNC, as much as everyone loves seeing the ACC teams lose I personally would’ve preferred some higher ended conference matchup

- UNC is a train wreck and failed with the BB hire
- VT is on the up and come up NOW but that started this year and they’ve been dead since the 2020s
- GT LOOKED like they were trending up and now they’ve flopped miserably.
- SMU has been solid but they aren’t really bringing in elite talent to get over the edge.
- Syracuse/BC/Cal/Stanford/Nc State are all teams that are all dog**** and are basically the equivalent of playing against an AAC opponent rather than an ACC one, and every time they upset someone (Cal over over VT, Syracuse over UNC, BC over Pitt, and Nc state over UL, GT over Duke) they just reinforce the idea that the ACC SUCKS BECAUSE THOSE TEAMS ARE HORRIBLE (VT losing to Pitt while Pitt lost their starting QB and also became dog**** was one of the worst things to happen to the conference)
- Wake Forest is a pleasant surprise but knowing the ACC, UVA is about to win this week
- Louisville is literally 9 total points away from being 7-0 and a playoff contender, still a good chance they finish 9-3 too.
- Duke isn’t anything special, they’re maybe finishing 7-5 this year.

I’d easily put the ACC as the bottom P4 conference right now, academics are obsolete in today’s landscape and a bunch of these institutions don’t care to put in enough money to compete with the big boys.

The top 5 in the ACC will probably end up being:

- Miami (most likely finishes 12-0, maybe 11-1)
- SMU (most likely finishes 10-2, maybe 9-3)
- Wake (most likely finishes 10-2, MAYBE 11-1)
- VT (most likely finishes 9-3/8-4)
- Louisville (most likely finishes 8-4/9-3)
- Clemson probably takes the 6th spot (probably finishes 7-5 but maybe 8-4, doubt they run the table though)

After that it’s just a bunch of BAD teams, all whom would be middle of the pack even in the American conference.

I hate the SEC & Big10 but they’ll probably get 7-8 teams combined and I won’t even blame the committee for it either, even the Big12 is doing really really good this year. This conference just flat out sucks top to bottom (basketball is a different story though)
 
Dumb Ass GIF by Law Office of Robert Eckard
 
not sure what the future holds on conference realignment holds ? I think there are 5-6 teams in ACC and Big 12 that could from a very
strong conference Miami, FSU, Clemson,Va.Tech, NC & UVA form a financial standpoint . Big 12 would be TxTech, Utah, BYU,maybe
Az or AZ state,. there are a lot of schools that want to compete at highest levels that cannot overcome the 30m-50M$ differential between SEC & Big10?//// streaming might also be an avenue of revenue
its all coming down to brands and wide have a strong brand
 
The whiner/writer Hayes cites Michigan and Penn State as “descending” but fails to mention they both have new coaches. Also, you have to spend real money before ever sniffing the playoffs. Might want to do his homework before he gets into a peeing contest with Echevarria about anything.
 
SFbayCane said:
Look at where Miami is now. Ranked #1 in the polls, yet every single CFB fan is saying the exact same thing: "Who has Miami played?" Its a valid question. The answer, We've played the ACC. And yet the marketplace thinks that's insufficient to be considered #1.

While doing this, Miami is making X amount of revenue.

If Miami goes independent, their strength of schedule will be similar to what it is this season (doo doo). And in doing so, they will make significantly more revenue than X.

How is going independent not a no-brainer?
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i swear only me and you on here dont mind bing independent.

i have no interest in the big 10 whatsoever
 
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