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DJ Uiagalelei talks Clemson and Oregon State

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I was surprised when the Beavers accepted his transfer. He was a dud at Clemson and I do not see how he fits in the more dynamic offense of the Beavers. Bo nix was mediocre at Auburn and kicked butt at Oregon so maybe Uiag will prosper. Maybe.
 
Dwinstitles said:
Where their natty's NFL beasts and hows their scheddy. Its cool to throw all those yards but at least win something. It doesn't guarantee that you will win at a high clip.
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You were talking about DJ, not what teams have won. Maybe the scheme held him back? Pat Mahomes is pretty decent btw.
 
Rellyrell said:
So I’ll just say it; No DJ, u were the problem.

Listen, I’m not going to put his family’s biz out there, but it’s much more to why he was struggling than just “scheme” fit. He looked outstanding as a true freshman & then fell off. His head wasn’t completely in the game b/c there was hella drama in his personal life.

Clemson’s scheme produced 3 back to back to back NFL QBs, including back to back 1st round picks. When DJ was pulled, Cade seemed to fair much better. Just hoping the young man is in a great mental space, first & foremost. I’m not saying Dabo is on the lines of Riley, but there’s a reason 5 star QBs have been lining up for those two specifically. Again, hope DJ finds success at Oregon State, & all goes well, but didn’t too much care for the blame game. He needed to shoulder that responsibility, too.
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His family business is already out there but I don’t believe that drama significantly altered his play.

He should have changed positions or tried out for the dodgers, I’m not convinced he will be qb1 when Oregon states season starts
 
Rellyrell said:
So I’ll just say it; No DJ, u were the problem.

Listen, I’m not going to put his family’s biz out there, but it’s much more to why he was struggling than just “scheme” fit. He looked outstanding as a true freshman & then fell off. His head wasn’t completely in the game b/c there was hella drama in his personal life.

Clemson’s scheme produced 3 back to back to back NFL QBs, including back to back 1st round picks. When DJ was pulled, Cade seemed to fair much better. Just hoping the young man is in a great mental space, first & foremost. I’m not saying Dabo is on the lines of Riley, but there’s a reason 5 star QBs have been lining up for those two specifically. Again, hope DJ finds success at Oregon State, & all goes well, but didn’t too much care for the blame game. He needed to shoulder that responsibility, too.
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Exactly ….

It’s such a QB friendly system, surrounded by elite talent. If you can’t excel it’s probably you. Lol
 
Basically a Ryan Moore type. Looked great as a freshman, fell off a cliff, played the blame game as things went south.

All that’s missing here is ClemsonChef mentioning somewhere that DJ “had no choice but to go to the NFL!”
 
The kid has some evidence to back him up. Streeter was fired after the season. No other QB on the roster (highly ranked QB’s) outplayed him really while he was there so there might be truth to what he is saying.

Nonetheless he probably should have taken the high road in airing out the dirty laundry.
 
Clemson dumbed down the offense to what he could understand and execute to higher degree (probably from practice and film study) and it still didn’t work.

So there’s two choices here… DJ is right. Dabo doesn’t know what he’s doing anymore and didn’t utilize him properly or… Clemson whiffed on a QB eval finally and the kid isn’t who most thought he would be?

Some people really underestimate how much of a difference a QB being a second too slow often makes to overall offensive efficiency.

Or maybe even it’s somewhere in between?
 
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Dghustla said:
Exactly ….

It’s such a QB friendly system, surrounded by elite talent. If you can’t excel it’s probably you. Lol
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you guys do realize they fired their OC after the season right? and went out and hired the younger brother of the most modern offensive coach in the sport?

I don't think DJ is very good but his argument that Clemson's offense was behind the times is not very controversial. people have been talking about this even before the Tony Elliott/Jeff Scott era was over. they still had Lawrence, Etienne level talent propping them up but once that went out the door Dabo and that offensive staff got exposed. DJ is of course a part of that & I'm sure he'd tell you that himself, but he's not wrong about their offense and I highly doubt anyone in/around Clemson would even try and argue it. they were sick of that scheme, too.
 
I'll be rooting for him simply because it's another knock on Clemson and Dabo and will hurt them in the long run if DJ succeeds. If he succeeds, the lasting story will be Clemson doesn't get you prepared for the NFL and has a crap scheme or that whatever magic they had left with their coordinators and superior talent.
 
mirvin88 said:
He may not be very good as a QB but the criticism here is too harsh. He’s just expressing his opinion.
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Of course it is. I don't even think he's that great and think @gogeta4 take on him being a Dan Mullen type QB to be pretty spot on. Just a quick comp of TVD v. DJU 2021 v. 2022 (just complete seasons we can use as a measuring stick as 21 for DJU and 22 for TVD aren't great comparison points.

2021 Tyler Van Dyke
62.3% completion percentage
2988 Total Yards (Pass/Rush Combined)
9.0 ypa
26 Total TDs (25 pass/1 rush), 6 INT
160 QBR

2022 DJU
62.1% comp%
3066 Total Yards (Pass/Rush Combined)
6.8 ypa
29 Total TDs (22 pass, 7 rush), 7 INTs
135 QBR
 
Dwinstitles said:
Where their natty's NFL beasts and hows their scheddy. Its cool to throw all those yards but at least win something. It doesn't guarantee that you will win at a high clip.
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That's not the point. The point is that good schemes can make mediocre quarterbacks look great. If DJ Ukelele looked like *** in Clemson's QB friendly scheme, he's going to look like *** in any scheme.
 
BoxingRobes said:
Of course it is. I don't even think he's that great and think @gogeta4 take on him being a Dan Mullen type QB to be pretty spot on. Just a quick comp of TVD v. DJU 2021 v. 2022 (just complete seasons we can use as a measuring stick as 21 for DJU and 22 for TVD aren't great comparison points.

2021 Tyler Van Dyke
62.3% completion percentage
2988 Total Yards (Pass/Rush Combined)
9.0 ypa
26 Total TDs (25 pass/1 rush), 6 INT
160 QBR

2022 DJU
62.1% comp%
3066 Total Yards (Pass/Rush Combined)
6.8 ypa
29 Total TDs (22 pass, 7 rush), 7 INTs
135 QBR
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I'd say the main difference is that if you're averaging under 7 yards per attempt (which is really bad) you should have a much higher completion percentage. DJ wasn't highly accurate even though a majority of his passes were short passes. Meanwhile Tyler was completing the same percentage but was obviously attempting way more deep passes, thus the really great 9 yards per attempt.
 
DTP said:
I'd say the main difference is that if you're averaging under 7 yards per attempt (which is really bad) you should have a much higher completion percentage. DJ wasn't highly accurate even though a majority of his passes were short passes. Meanwhile Tyler was completing the same percentage but was obviously attempting way more deep passes, thus the really great 9 yards per attempt.
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It is below the national average starting QB but not egriously bad. Players still get drafted with that kind of ypa. Tanner McKee from Stanford will likely get drafted with 6.9. Josh Allen with 6.7 his senior year.
 
BoxingRobes said:
It is below the national average starting QB but not egriously bad. Players still get drafted with that kind of ypa. Tanner McKee from Stanford will likely get drafted with 6.9. Josh Allen with 6.7 his senior year.
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I mean statistically, those guys were below average college quarterbacks. I know Josh Allen got drafted on physical traits but he was a pretty crappy college quarterback. McKee will get drafted for the same reason that bum from Kentucky is going early. They played under center a lot and for some reason, NFL GMs believe that translates to being a good pro quarterback.

DJ finished 84th out of 113 qualifying quarterbacks in yards per attempt.
 
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DTP said:
I mean statistically, those guys were below average college quarterbacks. I know Josh Allen got drafted on physical traits but he was a pretty crappy college quarterback. McKee will get drafted for the same reason that bum from Kentucky is going early. They played under center a lot and for some reason, NFL GMs believe that translates to being a good pro quarterback.
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None of those guys are/were considered "crappy" college QBs. They were all pretty well regarded...higher than their YPA would indicate.

All I was trying to show was that I agreed with @mirvin88 that DJU is being a little too harshly critiqued here. He's not great...but his numbers last year weren't unworthy of playing P5 football as many here are just roasting him after he said he thought he wasn't used well at Clemson. Considering Clemson has lost the offensive staff that made Lawrence and Watson so good...its not a stretch to think he's on to something.

Cade Klubnik threw for 7.0 ypa and had a 2/3 TD:INT ratio and Clemson just hired a new outside of the system playcaller. It's not that the idea is baseless.
 
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I’ll be pretty surprised if DJ suddenly becomes a great college QB at Oregon State. The track record on two-year starting QBs who get benched at his first school going on to display greatness after transferring isn’t very strong. Can anyone think of someone who fits that profile? There aren’t very many of them.
 
BoxingRobes said:
None of those guys are/were considered "crappy" college QBs. They were all pretty well regarded...higher than their YPA would indicate.

All I was trying to show was that I agreed with @mirvin88 that DJU is being a little too harshly critiqued here. He's not great...but his numbers last year weren't unworthy of playing P5 football as many here are just roasting him after he said he thought he wasn't used well at Clemson. Considering Clemson has lost the offensive staff that made Lawrence and Watson so good...its not a stretch to think he's on to something.

Cade Klubnik threw for 7.0 ypa and had a 2/3 TD:INT ratio and Clemson just hired a new outside of the system playcaller. It's not that the idea is baseless.
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You’re confusing NFL draft rankings with college ability. Josh Allen’s passing numbers are oddly similar to Malik Rosier’s. The guy was a 56% career passer at Wyoming
 
DTP said:
You’re confusing NFL draft rankings with college ability. Josh Allen’s passing numbers are oddly similar to Malik Rosier’s. The guy was a 56% career passer at Wyoming
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I'm not confusing anything. No one thought Malik Rosier was on any similar level as Josh Allen despite maybe similar statistical profiles.
 
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