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rascon said:
Last i saw it was a 4 score spread, lol.
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Fawk_U Haters said:
Mendoza has a sound offensive system that has been tested over many different teams at many different levels of college football

The other has an offensive system that is has failed over and over again

Not defending Beck, but lets not think Mendoza wouldn't look like ish here either
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did we have the #1 offense in the country last year?
 
SinisterCane said:
Y’all are ******* delusional if you think Mendoza would look the same at Miami like he does Indiana
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Not a doubt in my mind… beck looks like crap this year playing this slow methodical offense which chooses to drain the clock to the point of a delay of game
 
pacusmc said:
As I’ve stated for the past several weeks, the scheme is designed to protect Beck and try to hide the fact that he isn’t good.
You can’t force a system that your qb can’t run without turning the ball over multiple times a game.

We would not be running this offense th same way if we had a qb that could stretch the field and get the ball to multiple receivers without interceptions.
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Beck is doing things in crucial moments that hurt us but against much stiffer comp he really hasn't played much worse than Mendoza. Hes been better on late downs. I dont think Fernando Mendoza is a better QB than Beck overall regardless of scheme. I think he has just been on a team with a better offensive identity and played weaker comp. Mendoza did play well against Oregon but Beck was pretty awesome against ND and FSU. So I dont know but I dont think we are better with Mendoza provably the same or worse.
 
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Post injury Beck is cooked… Mario and Dawson took a gamble and crapped out. Beck got 4 mil, we should’ve offered Mendoza 5.
 
Fawk_U Haters said:
Mendoza has a sound offensive system that has been tested over many different teams at many different levels of college football

The other has an offensive system that is has failed over and over again

Not defending Beck, but lets not think Mendoza wouldn't look like ish here either
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^ This. I saw Mendoza play in Berkeley last year. He was mid asf. Not horrible, but not impressive. Looked like a complete game manager.
 
Kn[]_[]ckles3o5 said:
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Beck is doing things in crucial moments that hurt us but against much stiffer comp he really hasn't played much worse than Mendoza. Hes been better on late downs. I dont think Fernando Mendoza is a better QB than Beck overall regardless of scheme. I think he has just been on a team with a better offensive identity and played weaker comp. Mendoza did play well against Oregon but Beck was pretty awesome against ND and FSU. So I dont know but I dont think we are better with Mendoza provably the same or worse.
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Thank you for the narrative after the graph. Those weird new graphs make my head spin. Mock me all ya want, it's just the plain truth.
 
There is not a single person on this board that would have been happy with Mendoza. I was scared of him as well. At one point I was trying to tell my son he had NFL evals but he was like F that as well. I actually thought that was who was coming. I even hated Beck last year. I was sure Miami could beat Georgia bec of Beck, but when I heard he was coming I was stoked. Now I see all the things that made me think he sucked at Georgia. Im still pulling for him to close out strong but this wasnt an easy decision for anyone and Mendoza wasnt the **** pick.
 
Cribby said:
Who’d thunk Mike freaking Bobo’s offense would’ve gotten more out of Beck even with how awful their wr drops was and mediocre OL. Wild times .
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I think it might be catastrophically bad for Mario in terms of ever getting another quality QB out of the portal. It is glaringly obvious that Wards improvisational skills made this offense. Dawsons offense looked terrible with TVD for 2 years and now looks just as bad with Beck.

Under Diaz, when Enos flopped, Miami still won the portal sweepstakes with Deriq King - King could see that Lashlee was going to be the new OC and knew the system would be a good fit. And on top of that, it happened in Diaz’s first season so a QB could believe Diaz when he said there would be a different offense.

with Mario, his offensive style has made Bobo’s offense look like the greatest show on turf by comparison. Beck is going to fall disastrously in the draft- I think most of us realize that he was vastly overrated (imo Kaaya was a much better qb if we are comparing immobile QBs), but the whispers from HCs competing for a top transfer QB will be that Marios offense ruined him and it doesn’t matter who Miami hires as an OC, they will still have a caveman philosophy.
 
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Mario/Dawson made a mistake in their QB eval. There is no more to this story.
But it happens every day at every level.

Should Caleb Williams have been the #1 pick?
Should Kyler Murray have been a 1st round pick?

I don’t care what team it is or what level. Talent evaluators make mistakes. So let’s stop making more of this that it is.
Be mad if you want, but every team in every sport has made this mistake.

You think Portland should have drafted Sam Bowie one pick ahead of Michael Jordan?
Should the Steelers have cut Johnny Unitas?

I can do this all day long but it is pointless. Beck was a miss relative to Mendoza. But to keep talking about this tired-a*s subject is also moronic.
 
Ryanmilli said:
I was in favor of bringing Mendoza in during the portal window after we lost out on Mateer, although I did not anticipate he would be as good as he is. I think it would be fair to say CiS generally was not big on Mendoza (with some exceptions like @PIPO).

I believe IU modified its offense some for him to go RPO heavy. Mendoza makes really good decisions out of RPO and they run a lot of outside and inside zone off that. Mendoza is also just enough of a running threat.

Shannahan is a **** good offensive coordinator, so it is hard to know how Mendoza would have done here. But I suspect he would have been at least as good as Beck (probably better) and much less expensive. Also, Mendoza's brother has looked really good when he's gone in for mop up duty.
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@DMoney was on Mendoza from the start.
I was a “No” initially when his name came up before he entered the portal.

I believe @Cribby and a few others were a “No” on the outset and then changed their minds before Mendoza made a decision.

Then as time went, we joined D$ on the Mendoza train. He took a big leap from the year before, is smart as ****, mobile when he needs to be and improved his INTs from 10 to 6 when he didn’t have much help around him at Cal.

In the end he was just a kid that did more with less and now that he has more in Indiana, he’s taken off.

Of course, Mario, like everything, over thought it and ****ed it up. Maybe if he had a timeout and 25 seconds, maybe he could’ve pull it off.
 
gogeta4 said:
Cuse does have lbs that are big and can just hammer down though so i dont expect some rushing offensive explosion....also their dbs arent bad an fran brown is a db coach he is gonna dare beck to beat us.....i havent looked but if this is a three score spread im taking syracuse.
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We are lucky Angeli tore his Achilles and is out because he would’ve done the same as McCord last year the way our DBs are giving cushions.

I expect a similar game plan to Louisville. Quick hitters and ball out of the hand in less than 2 seconds on every throw. That ****** Syracuse QB is going to look like an all star.
 
PIPO said:
@DMoney was on Mendoza from the start.
I was a “No” initially when his name came up before he entered the portal.

I believe @Cribby and a few others were a “No” on the outset and then changed their minds before Mendoza made a decision.

Then as time went, we joined D$ on the Mendoza train. He took a big leap from the year before, is smart as ****, mobile when he needs to be and improved his INTs from 10 to 6 when he didn’t have much help around him at Cal.

In the end he was just a kid that did more with less and now that he has more in Indiana, he’s taken off.

Of course, Mario, like everything, over thought it and ****ed it up. Maybe if he had a timeout and 25 seconds, maybe he could’ve pull it off.
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Nah I was on Mendoza from the rip . I was not on Beck and argued with people about him. Now I somewhat came around on him when I heard the other options lol. But every post you’ll see of mine was be prepared for Beck and his bipolar play. I was never a fan.
 
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