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God I hope you're right, but I'm finding it difficult to believe they'll be that good. If they are, I'm gonna punch al in his p*^^y.

Why is it hard to believe? There is enormous talent at DT combined with experience and the best DL coach in the country.

Experience and coaching I get, but when did the talent happen? Nobody has said a kind word about DT recruiting or talent in at least 2 years, so I'm wondering what's changed? To be clear, I expect a bunch of improvement (exp&coaching), I'm just not getting why the guys everyone *****ed about last year are talented this year.

They were highly rated freshmen and sophomores playing in a isht scheme. we have a serious position coach, this is a no brainer. And these kids seem to be coachable especially is they put up with that crap al sold them. Now they get to ATTACH like in high school. Okay man!
 
Moten and Jenkins are not very good.

Nobody would even recruit Norton for DT...only OG. He is starting because that's how bad our depth is.

Willis will prove to be the best player, and I've got my fingers crossed on McIntosh. These two guys are the only Miami calibre DTs on the roster....just two players.

This is still one the worst units in the power 5 conferences once you take the orange and green glasses off.

You have zero credibility for evaluating talent with how far up kevin olsens *** you were

for the last time....Olsen didn't fail because of talent. he didn't have it between the ears. Everyone that saw Olsen throw the ball said he was legit.

you don't know anything.

Lol boy threw floaters
 
Moten and Jenkins are not very good.

Nobody would even recruit Norton for DT...only OG. He is starting because that's how bad our depth is.

Willis will prove to be the best player, and I've got my fingers crossed on McIntosh. These two guys are the only Miami calibre DTs on the roster....just two players.

This is still one the worst units in the power 5 conferences once you take the orange and green glasses off.

You have zero credibility for evaluating talent with how far up kevin olsens *** you were

for the last time....Olsen didn't fail because of talent. he didn't have it between the ears. Everyone that saw Olsen throw the ball said he was legit.

you don't know anything.

Olsen had the weakest arm on the roster, please stop
 
Not sure if Valid's trolling but if he isn't he's way off.

I'm not as high on Norton as D$ is but he's certainly a solid player. And when you pair him with McIntosh and Willis that's a great Front Three. Jenkins and Moten provide good depth behind them.

Overall it's one of the best units on the team.
 
Moten and Jenkins are not very good.

Nobody would even recruit Norton for DT...only OG. He is starting because that's how bad our depth is.

Willis will prove to be the best player, and I've got my fingers crossed on McIntosh. These two guys are the only Miami calibre DTs on the roster....just two players.

This is still one the worst units in the power 5 conferences once you take the orange and green glasses off.

You have zero credibility for evaluating talent with how far up kevin olsens *** you were

for the last time....Olsen didn't fail because of talent. he didn't have it between the ears. Everyone that saw Olsen throw the ball said he was legit.

you don't know anything.

I know he ain't here
 
Only took 10 years.


BTW none of them are Seniors.


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Major major points for the Tom Baker gif. You are obviously quite intelligent and have excellent taste.
 
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Moten and Jenkins are not very good.

Nobody would even recruit Norton for DT...only OG. He is starting because that's how bad our depth is.

Willis will prove to be the best player, and I've got my fingers crossed on McIntosh. These two guys are the only Miami calibre DTs on the roster....just two players.

This is still one the worst units in the power 5 conferences once you take the orange and green glasses off.

I tend to agree with you most of the time but we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. First off, the fact that most schools offered Norton as a OG and didn't think he was DT material is completely irrelevant at this point. Everyone arouñd this program has stated that this kid can play including coach K. I truly think he will be a very good DT especially in this scheme. McIntosh has been flashing since the day he got here and he has been the subject of high praise by both staffs.

I will agree that Willis may have the best natural ability but that doesn't always make you a better player. It is true that Norton and McIntosh were not the hyped up elite 5 star recruit types. What matters is what you do when you get here and those two along with Willis can play. They have shown this to the man considered to be the best DL coach in the nation. As far as Moten and Jenkins go, they aren't elite talents but they are better than you are making them out to be and will only continue to get better along with the other 3 DTs.

Having said all that I'm not sure I buy the line about the DT group being amongst the best in the nation. I do think however that they are a very good group and relatively young meaning they should continue to get better. I also agree with you that the overall depth still needs to be addressed and isn't as great as some are making it out to be.

To put it in the order perspective, I look at this group of 5 DT's and believe that this is the best 5 deep we have had at DT in a very long time. Considering what a disaster the Golden regime was and the fact that he couldn't pay to get a good DT to come here because of his abortion of a scheme I think we are extremely fortunate to have the group we have at DT. When recruits start to see how our defense encourages the DL to disrupt, wreak havoc and make plays in the backfield we win begin to get those high 4 and 5 star DTs right out of high school.
 
I told you all Norton and Courtel would end up at Miami an got crap for it. Then I told you all they would be very good once they got here and got crap for it. Now look DMoney is telling you all the same thing and some are giving him crap for yet.

when are ya'll going to listen and trust the process an stop trying to rise to the ocassion.

Go Canes
 
Moten and Jenkins are not very good.

Nobody would even recruit Norton for DT...only OG. He is starting because that's how bad our depth is.

Willis will prove to be the best player, and I've got my fingers crossed on McIntosh. These two guys are the only Miami calibre DTs on the roster....just two players.

This is still one the worst units in the power 5 conferences once you take the orange and green glasses off.

You have zero credibility for evaluating talent with how far up kevin olsens *** you were

for the last time....Olsen didn't fail because of talent. he didn't have it between the ears. Everyone that saw Olsen throw the ball said he was legit.

you don't know anything.

I know that you don't have the ability to admit when you're wrong
 
Moten and Jenkins are not very good.

Nobody would even recruit Norton for DT...only OG. He is starting because that's how bad our depth is.

Willis will prove to be the best player, and I've got my fingers crossed on McIntosh. These two guys are the only Miami calibre DTs on the roster....just two players.

This is still one the worst units in the power 5 conferences once you take the orange and green glasses off.

Dont troll. You've been warned.

its not a troll. go back and read about Norton's recruitment. He wanted to go to UF and FSU and play DT, but they wanted him at OG.

Moten and Jenkins haven't done anything significant or stood out. yet someone posted that they will play in the NFL. did you give that poster a warning?

Just because you disagree or dont like what I say, doesn't make it a troll, so cut the crap already.

When the coaches are saying they are good and everybody that sees them say they look good that has to mean something. Now we will see what they do in real games but they must be doing something right.

As for norton yes teams was recruiting him at og instead of dt but he showed flashes last year. Made a few big stops in the fsu game last year. Ive never been that high on jenkins but think moten can be solid.

A lot of lack of performance did have to do with scheme. Its hard to stand out when you are asked to just stand in your gap and eat up blocks so other guys can make plays.

I disagree completely on Jenkins, kid can be a very good contributor, I have never seen Moten make a play so he needs to show me something before I believe. Norton can become a dominant force this year, he showed promise last year as a freshman.
 
I would still like to see us take 2 DTs this year. Players in that position tend to go pro when they are ready and we are looking at a potentially shaky situation in 2018.
 
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Moten and Jenkins are not very good.

Nobody would even recruit Norton for DT...only OG. He is starting because that's how bad our depth is.

Willis will prove to be the best player, and I've got my fingers crossed on McIntosh. These two guys are the only Miami calibre DTs on the roster....just two players.

This is still one the worst units in the power 5 conferences once you take the orange and green glasses off.



So Miami's DT's are on par with Wake Forest, Kansas, Colorado, Maryland, Rutgers, South Carolina, Kentucky, and Illinois?
 
I liked Mcintosh in high school and thought he was pretty good in his few opportunities last year, I'm interested to see what the hype is all about this year though.

Never foresaw him becoming a game changer


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Moten and Jenkins are not very good.

Nobody would even recruit Norton for DT...only OG. He is starting because that's how bad our depth is.

Willis will prove to be the best player, and I've got my fingers crossed on McIntosh. These two guys are the only Miami calibre DTs on the roster....just two players.

This is still one the worst units in the power 5 conferences once you take the orange and green glasses off.

:troll-slap::troll-slap::troll-slap:
 
I would still like to see us take 2 DTs this year. Players in that position tend to go pro when they are ready and we are looking at a potentially shaky situation in 2018.

I feel like Miami is waiting for something big after a big season.

I was thinking the same thing as far as DL group in 18 vs LSU
 
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