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David Coburn, FSU AD. Speaks

This is going to be Tennessee 2.0. They will throw out big name after big name and get denied and then settle for another Willie type hire. They look bad not paying Fisher after he won them a title. And they look worse firing Willie after less than 2 seasons. Coaches take note of that type of stuff.
 
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CaneSince4Ever said:
They privatized...now they can keep bags and something like the Jameis incident under wraps:


"Florida State University’s Board of Trustees voted Friday to establish a new organization that’ll run the school’s athletic department: The Florida State University Athletics Association. According to the Orlando Sentinel, FSU boasted that the new organization would “streamline the relationship” between the athletics department and boosters, and if that sounds shady as ****, it’s not even the half of it. The move will privatize FSU’s athletics department—essentially giving it all the benefits of being both a private corporation, including shielding it from public scrutiny—while still operating on behalf of a taxpayer-funded institution. Florida State is expecting the changes to take effect by the fall.

Florida State’s privatization is far from the first in Florida, as schools like the University of Florida and University of Central Florida have been benefitting for years from a state law that allows them to classify their athletics programs as “direct-support organizations”—essentially, a private, non-profit corporation separate from the university. In Florida State’s case, this change feels especially egregious in light of a parade of recent scandals and controversies at the school, all of which deserve to be further explained and understood through public record requests. With this new privatization, FSU’s athletics department will be able to decline any public record requests it doesn’t want to answer, taking formerly public records away from outsiders.

Florida State gets these new privileges without one big drawback that usually goes with them—the athletic department still will be subject to an immunity clause that limits any jury judgements or settlements to just $200,000. Anything higher would have to be approved by the state legislature, because it’d be paid by the taxpayers. Obviously, that’s not a perk a private corporation normally enjoys.

That minuscule limit came into play earlier this decade, to the benefit of UCF’s athletic association, after Ereck Plancher collapsed and died during a football practice in 2008. In 2011, a jury awarded Plancher’s family $10 million, but after the organization appealed all the way to the Florida Supreme Court, they didn’t have to pay more than $200,000.

Under this arrangement, not only would Florida State’s athletic leadership not have to be transparent in the event of a scandal or tragedy—similar to the way Maryland was held accountable after the death of Jordan McNair—but there also would be an artificial cap on the judicial consequences for their actions. Florida’s not the only state where athletic departments have found ways to operate outside of public oversight—Georgia and Pennsylvania are two others—but given how little reason there is to trust any college athletic department, it’s disturbing that the trend is moving towards more secrecy, not less."
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A private corporation working with a loose connection to FSU the school. I can see more clearly now why the players want to and should get paid. I have never heard that info before.
 
Go Canes!! said:
They also want the power that comes with it. If this is true, giving that kind of leverage to a booster club is a recipe for disaster.
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of course... but boosters don't necessarily want to see the demise of a school they contribute heavily to either. That's not money well spent. It's a double edged sword. It can be a disaster if it's coming from one or two sources. If it is a larger group then the extremes tend to come more towards the middle.
 
CaneSince4Ever said:
They privatized...now they can keep bags and something like the Jameis incident under wraps:


"Florida State University’s Board of Trustees voted Friday to establish a new organization that’ll run the school’s athletic department: The Florida State University Athletics Association. According to the Orlando Sentinel, FSU boasted that the new organization would “streamline the relationship” between the athletics department and boosters, and if that sounds shady as ****, it’s not even the half of it. The move will privatize FSU’s athletics department—essentially giving it all the benefits of being both a private corporation, including shielding it from public scrutiny—while still operating on behalf of a taxpayer-funded institution. Florida State is expecting the changes to take effect by the fall.

Florida State’s privatization is far from the first in Florida, as schools like the University of Florida and University of Central Florida have been benefitting for years from a state law that allows them to classify their athletics programs as “direct-support organizations”—essentially, a private, non-profit corporation separate from the university. In Florida State’s case, this change feels especially egregious in light of a parade of recent scandals and controversies at the school, all of which deserve to be further explained and understood through public record requests. With this new privatization, FSU’s athletics department will be able to decline any public record requests it doesn’t want to answer, taking formerly public records away from outsiders.

Florida State gets these new privileges without one big drawback that usually goes with them—the athletic department still will be subject to an immunity clause that limits any jury judgements or settlements to just $200,000. Anything higher would have to be approved by the state legislature, because it’d be paid by the taxpayers. Obviously, that’s not a perk a private corporation normally enjoys.

That minuscule limit came into play earlier this decade, to the benefit of UCF’s athletic association, after Ereck Plancher collapsed and died during a football practice in 2008. In 2011, a jury awarded Plancher’s family $10 million, but after the organization appealed all the way to the Florida Supreme Court, they didn’t have to pay more than $200,000.

Under this arrangement, not only would Florida State’s athletic leadership not have to be transparent in the event of a scandal or tragedy—similar to the way Maryland was held accountable after the death of Jordan McNair—but there also would be an artificial cap on the judicial consequences for their actions. Florida’s not the only state where athletic departments have found ways to operate outside of public oversight—Georgia and Pennsylvania are two others—but given how little reason there is to trust any college athletic department, it’s disturbing that the trend is moving towards more secrecy, not less."
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the whole thing is nauseating.
 
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bacane said:
This is disgusting & tragic. Every parent whose kid is considering Florida State and others with like outrageous policy should know it before signing on.
Capping payment after a death or catastrophic injury at $200,000, are you kidding me? The same ****** place that's about to pay a glorified PE teacher close to $18 million to go away? This is beyond crazy.
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Spot on!!!

$200K wouldn't even cover a week's stay at the hospital if something catastrophic were to happen.
 
CaneSince4Ever said:
Spot on!!!

$200K wouldn't even cover a week's stay at the hospital if something catastrophic were to happen.
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Just crazy. Even with the talk about coaching salaries and lack of compensation for players, this is really a far more serious issue. Really telling & something kids/parents/advisers/street agents should definitely be aware of before signing.
 
Boosters running the athletic department at FSU now.. every coach will run from that situation. Let’s try to answer to a bunch of high dollar millionaires and keep them all happy! Sounds perfect lol
 
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CaneSince4Ever said:
They privatized...now they can keep bags and something like the Jameis incident under wraps:


"Florida State University’s Board of Trustees voted Friday to establish a new organization that’ll run the school’s athletic department: The Florida State University Athletics Association. According to the Orlando Sentinel, FSU boasted that the new organization would “streamline the relationship” between the athletics department and boosters, and if that sounds shady as ****, it’s not even the half of it. The move will privatize FSU’s athletics department—essentially giving it all the benefits of being both a private corporation, including shielding it from public scrutiny—while still operating on behalf of a taxpayer-funded institution. Florida State is expecting the changes to take effect by the fall.

Florida State’s privatization is far from the first in Florida, as schools like the University of Florida and University of Central Florida have been benefitting for years from a state law that allows them to classify their athletics programs as “direct-support organizations”—essentially, a private, non-profit corporation separate from the university. In Florida State’s case, this change feels especially egregious in light of a parade of recent scandals and controversies at the school, all of which deserve to be further explained and understood through public record requests. With this new privatization, FSU’s athletics department will be able to decline any public record requests it doesn’t want to answer, taking formerly public records away from outsiders.

Florida State gets these new privileges without one big drawback that usually goes with them—the athletic department still will be subject to an immunity clause that limits any jury judgements or settlements to just $200,000. Anything higher would have to be approved by the state legislature, because it’d be paid by the taxpayers. Obviously, that’s not a perk a private corporation normally enjoys.

That minuscule limit came into play earlier this decade, to the benefit of UCF’s athletic association, after Ereck Plancher collapsed and died during a football practice in 2008. In 2011, a jury awarded Plancher’s family $10 million, but after the organization appealed all the way to the Florida Supreme Court, they didn’t have to pay more than $200,000.

Under this arrangement, not only would Florida State’s athletic leadership not have to be transparent in the event of a scandal or tragedy—similar to the way Maryland was held accountable after the death of Jordan McNair—but there also would be an artificial cap on the judicial consequences for their actions. Florida’s not the only state where athletic departments have found ways to operate outside of public oversight—Georgia and Pennsylvania are two others—but given how little reason there is to trust any college athletic department, it’s disturbing that the trend is moving towards more secrecy, not less."
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Just the latest in the State of Florida's plan to shut out and shut down Private, Not for Profit education in the state. The government hates competition and loves a monopoly.

Of course, this is the trend nationwide. In football, there are only 18 private FBS universities in the whole country, with eight being in just three states (NC, CA, TX). Some have no shot (G5/Ind.) at a title (Rice, Liberty, Tulsa, Tulane, BYU, SMU) and two do if **** freezes over (Vanderbilt, Northwestern).

Sometime, the future does look bleak...
 
Booster 'Foundations' have been funding large portions of high coaching salaries for a long time.
 
Go Canes!! said:
So basically the inmates are running the asylum.
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Welcome to the modern age of football for all but a handful of programs. FSU is big money, but that buyout was crazy. LSU, I don't recall what they eventually did pay Miles, but they almost did the same thing.

That's a record buyout and if anyone thinks the big money boosters aren't needed to do that, you'rr crazy. Bringing that kind of money to a program gets you a bit of say.
 
Will be an attempt at a splash hire....

boosters didnt foot that big of a bill to get some mid tier gamble

they want name factor
 
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