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DAILY DEBATE: Who is the better player, Xavier Restrepo or Roscoe Parrish?

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Rellyrell said:
Smith couldn’t unseat X b/c Smith didn’t live up to the hype. Lol.

U’re trying to compare a guy who was a 2nd round pick that put up absurd all purpose yards in a shorter period of time to a one yr wonder who may or may not get drafted. (& b4 ya’ll get offended, I told u what would happen w/ Rambo when u thought he was the cat’s meow w/ the #’s he put up in one season).

Like I get we’re in this age of recency bias, but my goodness, the stats show what’s what.
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But you're trying to compare X to a guy who has retired and using Roscoe's pro production as an argument in his favor. I mean, let's try and limit it to college production otherwise premature to argue.

But I disagree with you that X is a one year wonder. If he's healthy, he's going to break all sorts of records here. And if you believe the reports, X is going to get drafted in mid-rounds.

Also, you can argue recency bias, but there's also a bias towards our favorite players of yesteryear. Like I said, Roscoe was one of my faves too. Dude was amazing.
 
AlexCane said:
But you're trying to compare X to a guy who has retired and using Roscoe's pro production as an argument in his favor. I mean, let's try and limit it to college production otherwise premature to argue.

But I disagree with you that X is a one year wonder. If he's healthy, he's going to break all sorts of records here. And if you believe the reports, X is going to get drafted in mid-rounds.

Also, you can argue recency bias, but there's also a bias towards our favorite players of yesteryear. Like I said, Roscoe was one of my faves too. Dude was amazing.
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I didn’t use his pro production. Lol. I literally used what he did at Miami in a different era, in a shorter period of time. And Parrish ain’t my favorite player, like not even close. I just understand complete context vs. and eye test don’t lie, either.
 
Roscoe was a much better returner, but X is a better receiver IMO. His size makes a difference- he's a legit 200+ with a running back build. This helps him both with contested catches and after the catch. Roscoe was really skinny.

Roscoe was a better receiver than Restrepo is a returner, so I'd say Roscoe was better all-around while X is a better offensive player.
 
AlexCane said:
But you're trying to compare X to a guy who has retired and using Roscoe's pro production as an argument in his favor. I mean, let's try and limit it to college production otherwise premature to argue.
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Erriyon Knighton broke Usain Bolt's junior records in the 200m, so by this logic should we say Knighton is a "better" sprinter than Usain Bolt (since Knighton hasn't had the chance to run in the Olympics yet and we need to "limit" the comparison)? Of course not.

Your last 3 words above had it right.
 
Manfred_Cane said:
Roscoe and it's not particularly close
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This right here. It’s Roscoe and it’s not that close. With this season left to play, X can still close the gap. If X can add a little more production in the return game (assuming he might have some opportunities in PR), we might be having a different conversation in a year.
 
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DMoney said:
This one is out of left field, but somebody asked me this on the Canes Connection call yesterday and I thought it was interesting. Who do you got?
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I hate these type questions, both are good players, but one’s about to get **** on in CIS
 
Rellyrell said:
I didn’t use his pro production. Lol. I literally used what he did at Miami in a different era, in a shorter period of time. And Parrish ain’t my favorite player, like not even close. I just understand complete context vs. and eye test don’t lie, either.
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You did! You said that Roscoe was a 2nd round pick and said X may or may not get drafted. You were factoring into the debate NFL potential or draft status as if it is indicative of college careers. I mean, I agree that X is likely not a top 2 round pick.

In any event, always a pleasure to go back and forth with you because it never gets personal. A rarity on this board :fistbump:
 
DMoney said:
Roscoe was a much better returner, but X is a better receiver IMO. His size makes a difference- he's a legit 200+ with a running back build. This helps him both with contested catches and after the catch. Roscoe was really skinny.

Roscoe was a better receiver than Restrepo is a returner, so I'd say Roscoe was better all-around while X is a better offensive player.
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It should be between Braxton Berrios or X...
 
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AlexCane said:
You did! You said that Roscoe was a 2nd round pick and said X may or may not get drafted. You were factoring into the debate NFL potential or draft status as if it is indicative of college careers. I mean, I agree that X is likely not a top 2 round pick.

In any event, always a pleasure to go back and forth with you because it never gets personal. A rarity on this board :fistbump:
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Agreed; well, off GP u’re one of my favorite posters b/c u bring sensibility & objectiveness to many talking points, despite being a rabid fan.

I think u misunderstood my point about Roscoe & the NFL. I wasn’t comparing his stay in the NFL vs. highlighting just how good he was here as a player that warranted that draft grade. So I’m saying b/c of the overall value Roscoe brought here as a football player, it’s another point to consider regarding comparing the two.

That’s why I highlighted that Roscoe as a complete, utility player was better than X. However, I will say that while Roscoe had more natural abilities than X which lent himself as a gadget player, X is the better route runner.
 
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Rellyrell said:
Agreed; well, off GP u’re one of my favorite posters b/c u bring sensibility & objectiveness to many talking points, despite being a rabid fan.

I think u misunderstood my point about Roscoe & the NFL. I wasn’t comparing his stay in the NFL vs. highlighting just how good he was here as a player that warranted that draft grade. So I’m saying b/c of the overall value Roscoe brought here as a football player it’s another point to consider regarding comparing the two.

That’s why I highlighted that Roscoe as a complete, utility player was better than X. However, I will say that while Roscoe had more natural abilities than X which lent himself as a gadget player, X is the better route runner.
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I guess it depends how you define football player. Roscoe is a more natural, fluid athlete and far more explosive. However, I put X in the better football player category simply because I think he could likely be a RB or a DB. I know there was a lot of talk here about putting X on defense early in his career.
 
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