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DAILY DEBATE: What conference do you want Miami to join?

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shwarma5 said:
Any conference we join, we're an outsider. However, I much rather been an "outsider" in the B1G then the SEC. The Tobacco Road bias we see in ACC would be similar in SEC vs. B1G we are a bit more of the "hot girl at the party" (even if they think we're "dangerous").

Also, in considering the "culture" from an institutional perspective / academics, I think B1G is a better fit too.

Finally, while we will have more cold weather games, with expansion, I think its only 1-2 bad ones a year, not 3-4.
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Agree, but what I never understand is the cold weather game issue. It’s not like we haven’t on a yearly basis, even before our golden years been playing up in Pittsburgh, BC, Maryland, Rutgers, Notre Dame, Virginia Tech, Virginia and even back when Temple was still in the big east. So it’s not like we haven’t had decades upon decades of playing cold-weather games. I wish we could put that excuse behind us once and for all.
 
Memnon said:
AAC or CUSA
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Bring back Liberty City El dammit
 
One other thing about the B1G — and I know it doesn't really matter to many or most or **** near everybody here:

But our 4-Time National Champion baseball program's chances of returning to and remaining at nationally elite status will be dead and gone for good if we end up in the B1G.

(Insert jokes here about the current coaching staff)

The Big Ten is wasteland for big-time College Baseball. Again, a lot of folks here probably don't care but it just seems worth mentioning.
 
Hold My Beer said:
One other thing about the B1G — and I know it doesn't really matter to many or most or **** near everybody here:

But our 4-Time National Champion baseball program's chances of returning to and remaining at nationally elite status will be dead and gone for good if we end up in the B1G.

(Insert jokes here about the current coaching staff)

The Big Ten is wasteland for big-time College Baseball. Again, a lot of folks here probably don't care but it just seems worth mentioning.
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What happens if we remain in a very weak ACC with a $30M a year media payout or the B12 with a $60M gap between the P2?
 
Whichever P2 lets us in 1st. I’d prefer games in the southeast so I can go to more away games. A Saturday night game in Athens would be amazing.

We had space heaters on the sideline when it was 50 degrees out. I’m not sure how our team would be with multiple cold weather games. We definitely fit in more with the B1G though. Anything but staying in the ACC.
 
Rickd said:
What happens if we remain in a very weak ACC with a $30M a year media payout or the B12 with a $60M gap between the P2?
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Hola mi amigo.

ICYMI, check out my post earlier in this thread. Sums up how I feel about these things:

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Astcloud11 said:
I wish we could be independent. There's like 6 schools I wish we could play on a yearly basis.
UF, FSU, VT, ND, BC, and Pitt. Coincidentally, those are also the 6 schools we've played the most (except ND is 8th with GT 6th and UNC 7th)
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We had it good back in the day... playing the best teams in the country every week and being on TV every saturday, and playing a lot of our natties in the Orange Bowl. We played some amazing schedules and that got worse when we moved to the Big East and then the ACC.
 
RightSaidFred said:
We had it good back in the day... playing the best teams in the country every week and being on TV every saturday, and playing a lot of our natties in the Orange Bowl. We played some amazing schedules and that got worse when we moved to the Big East and then the ACC.
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Wasn’t so much the schedules that got worse it was US - coaching and recruiting tanked big time compared to Butch.
 
Here's Indiana's 2024 BIG10 schedule, which is pretty tough in terms of BIG10 matchups. I replaced their OOC matchups with our own future OOC games and a potential permanent OOC rival in FSU:

Florida/Notre Dame/South Carolina/USF/Auburn
FAMU/Temple/Central Michigan/Troy
FSU
@UCLA
Maryland
@Northwestern
Nebraska
Washington
@Michigan State
Michigan
Ohio State
Purdue

That's a really fun schedule and nobody is going to call it soft or punish you in the rankings because of it. But it's nowhere near as brutal as an SEC schedule can be.
 
Anything other than the most likely outcome, which is us being left out of the next expansion of the BIG and SEC.
 
hurricaneman said:
Here's Indiana's 2024 BIG10 schedule, which is pretty tough in terms of BIG10 matchups. I replaced their OOC matchups with our own future OOC games and a potential permanent OOC rival in FSU:

Florida/Notre Dame/South Carolina/USF/Auburn
FAMU/Temple/Central Michigan/Troy
FSU
@UCLA
Maryland
@Northwestern
Nebraska
Washington
@Michigan State
Michigan
Ohio State
Purdue

That's a really fun schedule and nobody is going to call it soft or punish you in the rankings because of it. But it's nowhere near as brutal as an SEC schedule can be.
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One thing people are missing on strength of schedule between B1G and SEC is that the low to mid range schools in the B1G will get better. As the P2 starts to create more of a talent gap, talent that was going to ACC or Big 12 schools will start to be more spread across the P2. While the SEC’s bottom feeders might be better than the B1G, I could see the difference becoming more negligible as time goes on.
 
NicKane said:
Nike is dog **** and treated us like dog **** and you wanna go back to them? Lol clearly you don’t remember how crappy they treated us. Smh
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I remember all of it...but they are a better product and to be fair...we were a **** show and A LOT of what happened to this program was SELF INFLICTED INCOMPETENCE.

Like I said...Nike me.
 
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Hold My Beer said:
Lot of fans from the B1G have-nots might say differently when it comes to playing Ohio Taint or Me-Cheat-Again.

We'll still be outsiders wearing the black hats — just like in the SEC.

I'd rate the options:

1) SEC: football-obsessed culture + geographical proximity + frequent games against UF and FSU. Grade: A

2) B1G: national profile + FOX/CBS/NBC. Grade: B

3) Big XII: second-tier status + no opponents to excite fan base + excuse for UM administration to pull back on athletics. Grade: D-

4) ACC: Untenable. Close up shop and turn all sports facilities into picnic areas and intramural rec centers: Grade: F-
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You make a fantastic point.

I’d still say we’d fair better in the B1G simply because we’ve never (or I’ve never) seen a team in the B1G targeted by the Commissioner/Conference like we’ve seen happen in the SEC when the little brothers (Tenn/Ole Miss/ARK w Petrino) winning and/or taking elite recruits from the big brothers (BAMA/UGA/LSU). Not to mention we have OSU as really the primary program grabbing a player or two (elite WRs n a DB here/there) from our backyard……whereas we already have to deal with SEC teams in your backyard -

Everyone likes to see Miami losing in football - just the way it is.

Ultimately I think we have more to lose going SEC than we do if we went B1G.
 
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