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DAILY DEBATE: How will this affect LeBron's legacy?

skyman said:
Those clips are done wit no context to cause those type of reactions.. think it's the same kid who live stream and his dad send him to get autograph to sell..

There are a couple funny videos from athletes rejecting those type of kids and parents who try to sell but this was probably done to set up narrative that people have to do outrage marketing..

LeBron doesn't have that track record but expecting athletes to be "on" 24/7 is not possible..
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If that was the case he should have just ignored him and walked by.

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canes732 said:
Let’s hear some top 5s people have. I’ll start.
#1. MJ - obviously Jordan is 1
#2. LBJ - I don’t like putting him here but can’t say he isn’t. (Kobe guy)
#3. Magic- Bird rivalry
#4. Bird- Magic rivalry. Bird/Magic saved the nba and elevated it to where Jordan made it explode
#5. Shaq- most dominant player in history arguably. If he could just shoot a free throw haha
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Shaq isn’t remotely in top five conversation.
 
He's a complete piece of **** of a human being. I have zero respect for Lebron the person.

He's a top 5 player of all time without a doubt....but as someone mentioned above he'll never be #1. He'll never be MJ.
 
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Suhrthing said:
If that was the case he should have just ignored him and walked by.

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Its such a hard topic.... For 1. the only person Lebron is truly a "king" to is little kids, lets be real, he is a phenomenal basketball player but its just basketball. Yes it shows insane drive and dedication but again its basketball. Yes the money/fame makes him highly influential but again its basketball, a sport that kids grow up idolizing their favorite athletes so in that instance, he should be going out of his way for these kids.

However, that second video shows the kid trying to almost put his arm around him for a selfie he was trying to take. If the kid stood there snapping pics like the other 20 people there likely not an issue. The other angle I dont think the kid says anything, just tries to do it. That I do think is somewhat rude, again just a kid and he could have explained better but I at least understand it a bit more.
 
Arguments about the BB GOAT are rampant on the internet and talk radio. So what the ****...here's my take.

If I need one player, I take MJ

If I could clone a player and field a team of 5 of him, I take LBJ. I say this to mean he is the most well rounded high level player ever. If you took 5- 15 year old Lebrons and built their skill set and bodies to focus on the five positions, you could have a pretty dominant team. We already know he is near goat status as a small forward. He could arguably be all NBA at point guard, shooting guard and power forward. With some bulk and training, he could even hold his own in the post.

To me, that is the scenario where he excels. Being above average to elite all over the floor.
 
GojiraCane said:
He'll always be viewed in legacy sports media as probably the greatest basketball player of all time, a larger than life figure that redefined the sport.

In real life he's been a player/GM since 2014 who leveraged his power to put himself into the best possible position whenever possible.
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He'll always be viewed in legacy sports media as probably the greatest basketball player of all time, excluding anyone named Michael Jordan.
 
GojiraCane said:
He'll always be viewed in legacy sports media as probably the greatest basketball player of all time, a larger than life figure that redefined the sport.

In real life he's been a player/GM since 2014 who leveraged his power to put himself into the best possible position whenever possible.
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Not so sure about the legacy media giving him the title of greatest basketball player ever. He has his share of detractors in the media.

Wouldn't you say he's actually been a player/GM since 2010 when he famously brought his skills to South Beach? And is it a negative that he leveraged his power to put himself in the best position possible? MJ's era was different. In fact, I think you could point to MJ's time in Washington as the start of top players discovering the power they have nowadays (for better or worse).
 
CaneinBroward said:
Not so sure about the legacy media giving him the title of greatest basketball player ever. He has his share of detractors in the media.

Wouldn't you say he's actually been a player/GM since 2010 when he famously brought his skills to South Beach? And is it a negative that he leveraged his power to put himself in the best position possible? MJ's era was different. In fact, I think you could point to MJ's time in Washington as the start of top players discovering the power they have nowadays (for better or worse).
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Kind of, but he didn’t really have the type of personnel control that we now see until he returned to Cleveland.
 
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AtlAtty said:
At 39 years old to still be one of the strongest, fastest players in the league is something we have never seen. Lebron is a physical anomaly in a sport full of them. He was clearly the leader of Team USA. And other than Steph in the last 2 games, Lebron was the best player, and deserving of the MVP. He can easily play to the age of 45 if he chooses to play point guard. The Lebron of today has a similar skill set to Magic Johnson in terms of his passing and size.

If I had to pick a player for 1 game, or even 1 season, I pick MJ every single time.
If I had to pick the greatest career of all-time, I pick Lebron. He will own the NBA record book. And longevity counts because it speaks to the athlete’s dedication to keep their body in great condition.
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U’re conflating longevity with GOAT & the two r not synonymous. LBJ’s peak will never be better than MJ’s peak. When u deep dive into MJ’s whole career, it’s actually quite other world. LBJ will have the longevity #’s, but he will not come close to the individual or team accolades of MJ. In reality, MJ accomplished more in a 13 yr window* than LBJ has accomplished his entire career. (He played 15 NBA seasons but missed most of ‘85-86 & ‘94-95)

LBJ is an absolute physical specimen whose understanding of modern medicine have allowed him to play at an unbelievable peak, but if we’re going to be honest, the modern NBA player today is playing longer due to advanced understanding of medicine & technology. Steph Curry at 36 is still the most deadliest player on the court. KD at 35 is still a sniper. ****, MJ w/o modern medicine is still the oldest player to put up back to back 40+ games in his Wizards days avg. 20+ ppg.

I can easily break down why MJ is superior than LBJ & it has nothing to do w/ 6-0 vs. 4-6 as opposed to how it became 6-0 vs. 4-6, & just the shear amount of things MJ have done than LBJ could never imagine doing. The longevity stats r apart of the GOAT debate, but it’s not thee part of the GOAT debate or Kareem, & Malone would’ve been put over MJ
 
SPFRcane said:
Longevity means nothing....if it did why not giving Kobe and Kareem more credit. NO ONE DID WHAT MJ did to change the game. LBJ or no one else would have the shoe deals they have today if it wasn't for MJ. There would not be a world that plays basketball if it wasn't not for MJ. The reason the world is catching up to the US in basketball is because MJ was so iconic!! LBJ needs to compared to those 2 mentioned above. MJ is on a level all it's own.
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Actually, no one did more to change the game than Wilt. Literally rule change after rule change because Wilt was so dominant.
For example, before Wilt, there was no rule saying that a player could not cross the free throw line when shooting a free throw. Wilt used to run up to the line, jump and lay the ball in; like Dr J or MJ in the dunk contest.

I still agree that MJ is the best ever and I think you are correct that LBJ is in a top 5 with MJ, Wilt, Russell and then the 5th spot becomes interesting.
 
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