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Robbymoto

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Cannot believe how many people are satisfied with our D performance. Are you really claiming we did not give up 500 yards as a positive? Unbelievable. They had a QB making his first start and we did nothing to rattle him.

All night long there were gapping holes in the middle of the field. We continue these freaking delayed blitzes that 95% of the time get there one step too late.

I am sure we will run this exact scheme all year with no adjustments. As the season goes on we will habitually give up 500 yards and 40 points. Inevitable.
 
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We gave up 336 yards, which is far from even 400. That performance by the D was good enough to win the game. They also caused two turnovers in the red zone for our anemic O to do nothing with.

Now had we given up 490, and they moved on us at will all game long, you wouldn't hear me bragging on the D giving up less than 500 yards. 336, on the other hand, is darn good against ANY Petrino lead team. Now IF we go on to have several bad performances this year, you can talk. Right now the defence is the least of our concerns.
 
Offense, defense, special teams, preparation, play calling are all a concern frankly.
We gave up 336 yards, which is far from even 400. That performance by the D was good enough to win the game. They also caused two turnovers in the red zone for our anemic O to do nothing with.

Now had we given up 490, and they moved on us at will all game long, you wouldn't hear me bragging on the D giving up less than 500 yards. 336, on the other hand, is darn good against ANY Petrino lead team. Now IF we go on to have several bad performances this year, you can talk. Right now the defence is the least of our concerns.
 
The defense did their part aside from the 95 yard drive. Still a retarded scheme and our coaching staff probably knows it but they're too dense to change anything. Very stubborn group of neanderthals.
 
Cannot believe how many people are satisfied with our D performance. Are you really claiming we did not give up 500 yards as a positive? Unbelievable. They had a QB making his first start and we did nothing to rattle him.

All night long there were gapping holes in the middle of the field. We continue these freaking delayed blitzes that 95% of the time get there one step too late.

I am sure we will run this exact scheme all year with no adjustments. As the season goes on we will habitually give up 500 yards and 40 points. Inevitable.

"We did nothing to rattle him". Yeah, except for those two forced fumbles inside the ten yard line that the offense couldn't do anything with.

If there were gaping holes all night, they would have scored more than seven points in the first half.
 
Miami is in systematic failure mode right now, the D made plays to put us in good position and then O and ST botched it....there will be a game where the OLine will steamroll someone and we will give up 500 yes on D, it'll always be something,
 
The Defense was not the problem and if you think that you are not very bright. L'ville had less than 250 yds going into the 4 the qtr. We had multiple sacks, TFLs and forced TOs. That's good enough.

I didn't like the 3 man rushes, soft zones or Kirby being out there at all but we didn't yield much. The problem is when they moved the ball it looked easy but that doesn't take away from the results through 3 qtrs. Not to mention a ST TD.

The problem is the offense. 4 consecutive 3/4 play drives coming out of the locker room sucked the life out of the D. Two possession starts off of TOs in the opposing RZ yields 3 points. Game over, this is on two men, Al Golden and James Coley.
 
Not satisfied but the defense didn't lose the game for us, the lack of any kind of passing attack lost the game for us. Duke can't win games by himself with 8 stacked in the box.
 
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You kind of got the feeling that it was Louisville's lackluster play on offense and not stellar defensive play by us. I see the same fundamental problems with our defense and the last couple years, which is no surprise. We will be a little better since we have better athletes but when we play some good offenses, the 500 yard performances will be back.
 
The Defense was not the problem and if you think that you are not very bright. L'ville had less than 250 yds going into the 4 the qtr. We had multiple sacks, TFLs and forced TOs. That's good enough.

I didn't like the 3 man rushes, soft zones or Kirby being out there at all but we didn't yield much. The problem is when they moved the ball it looked easy but that doesn't take away from the results through 3 qtrs.

The problem is the offense. 4 consecutive 3/4 play drives coming out of the locker room sucked the life out of the D. Game over, this is on two men, Al Golden and James Coley.

It was good enough for yesterday. It is not good enough against better competition and certainly not as we expect to move forward toward Championship (Conference, at least) success. Louisville is not a great team and they made a lot of mistakes last night - dropped balls, etc.

I don't disagree that the offense is a problem. I simply disagree that the defense we saw last night is good enough going forward. At base, it lacks sufficient disruption. That's like looking at last year's UF game and saying "hey, we got TOs, some sacks and made plays when we needed to - that's enough." Yep. For that one game. It is a reaction to a specific game rather than a look at whether the concepts will hold up in future scenarios.
 
Our play calling was real bad on offense. Louisville stayed in that 8 or 9 man front all night daring us to throw the ball,**** anybody who has ever played football knows that screens don't work to good against man to man coverage. Eric ****erson couldn't run against that defense front they showed all night. The defense played ok,to conservative for me but decent.I don't like that 3-4 cover 3 for the University of Miami with the skilled athletes we have.I am old school give me that 4-3 2 man under and 4-3 cover to mixed with some zone blitzes.
 
The defense did their part aside from the 95 yard drive. Still a retarded scheme and our coaching staff probably knows it but they're too dense to change anything. Very stubborn group of neanderthals.

That was a frustrating drive. Watching McCord over the slot reciever repeatedly was painful. Gave them 7 points there. We also still rely on the other team making mistakes and I thought Petrino was fairly conservative. In todays offensive football explosion our D was passable but not great.
 
The Defense was not the problem and if you think that you are not very bright. L'ville had less than 250 yds going into the 4 the qtr. We had multiple sacks, TFLs and forced TOs. That's good enough.

I didn't like the 3 man rushes, soft zones or Kirby being out there at all but we didn't yield much. The problem is when they moved the ball it looked easy but that doesn't take away from the results through 3 qtrs.

The problem is the offense. 4 consecutive 3/4 play drives coming out of the locker room sucked the life out of the D. Game over, this is on two men, Al Golden and James Coley.

It was good enough for yesterday. It is not good enough against better competition and certainly not as we expect to move forward toward Championship (Conference, at least) success. Louisville is not a great team and they made a lot of mistakes last night - dropped balls, etc.

I don't disagree that the offense is a problem. I simply disagree that the defense we saw last night is good enough going forward. At base, it lacks sufficient disruption. That's like looking at last year's UF game and saying "hey, we got TOs, some sacks and made plays when we needed to - that's enough." Yep. For that one game. It is a reaction to a specific game rather than a look at whether the concepts will hold up in future scenarios.

You have to tell me where I said it was good enough for the rest of the season? Was it good enough to win last night? Yes it was and you can't tell me that it wasn't. Causing 2 TOs in the opponents RZ is not only stopping teams, but putting points on the board for us. Again if you read my post, I didn't like a lot of the things that Dnfr did, but I'm not having a global scheme discussion. I don't like what we do either. But our interior was markedly better and Kamulu, Chick and McCord all played well. AQM makes a bit of a difference and I think that's why you saw so many 3 man fronts, we didn't have another edge rusher (Chad?) opposite of TMc. Again, not my thoughts but theirs. Dropped passes happen all of the time and it's part of the game so I don't see how that's a point seeing that our one dropped pass changed the trajectory of the game. They usually wind up evening out as do penalties.

Acting like a L'ville led Petrino teams sucks doesn't make much sense to me. If they were in the Coastal they'd win it this year. Offense was the problem last night and the defense was gassed from not coming off the field in the 3rd qtr.
 
You kind of got the feeling that it was Louisville's lackluster play on offense and not stellar defensive play by us. I see the same fundamental problems with our defense and the last couple years, which is no surprise. We will be a little better since we have better athletes but when we play some good offenses, the 500 yard performances will be back.
+1000

Our defense isn't good. It's the same exact **** from last year and the year before. UL just wasn't very good. A better qb of offense and those numbers we gave up balloon. Don't kid yourself about the defense it was ok for yesterday but will get gashed by a more competent offense.
 
The Defense was not the problem and if you think that you are not very bright. L'ville had less than 250 yds going into the 4 the qtr. We had multiple sacks, TFLs and forced TOs. That's good enough.

I didn't like the 3 man rushes, soft zones or Kirby being out there at all but we didn't yield much. The problem is when they moved the ball it looked easy but that doesn't take away from the results through 3 qtrs.

The problem is the offense. 4 consecutive 3/4 play drives coming out of the locker room sucked the life out of the D. Game over, this is on two men, Al Golden and James Coley.

It was good enough for yesterday. It is not good enough against better competition and certainly not as we expect to move forward toward Championship (Conference, at least) success. Louisville is not a great team and they made a lot of mistakes last night - dropped balls, etc.

I don't disagree that the offense is a problem. I simply disagree that the defense we saw last night is good enough going forward. At base, it lacks sufficient disruption. That's like looking at last year's UF game and saying "hey, we got TOs, some sacks and made plays when we needed to - that's enough." Yep. For that one game. It is a reaction to a specific game rather than a look at whether the concepts will hold up in future scenarios.

You have to tell me where I said it was good enough for the rest of the season? Was it good enough to win last night? Yes it was and you can't tell me that it wasn't. Causing 2 TOs in the opponents RZ is not only stopping teams, but putting points on the board for us. Again if you read my post, I didn't like a lot of the things that Dnfr did, but I'm not having a global scheme discussion. I don't like what we do either. But our interior was markedly better and Kamulu, Chick and McCord all played well. AQM makes a bit of a difference and I think that's why you saw so many 3 man fronts, we didn't have another edge rusher (Chad?) opposite of TMc. Again, not my thoughts but theirs. Dropped passes happen all of the time and it's part of the game so I don't see how that's a point seeing that our one dropped pass changed the trajectory of the game. They usually wind up evening out as do penalties.

Acting like a L'ville led Petrino teams sucks doesn't make much sense to me. If they were in the Coastal they'd win it this year. Offense was the problem last night and the defense was gassed from not coming off the field in the 3rd qtr.

I used your post to talk about the issue of not using yesterday's performance to project defense going forward. I didn't attribute any comments to you directly. Perhaps I should have worded my "disagreement" better in that I disagree with the concept that what we saw last night would be sufficient going forward - not with anything you said.

I'm not acting like a L'ville-led Petrino team sucks. I said they are not a great team. They're an average team. They look slightly worse than last year. What they'd do in the coastal is not relevant to me because the Coastal mostly sucks. L'Ville, last night, was a very beatable team.
 
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The Defense was not the problem and if you think that you are not very bright. L'ville had less than 250 yds going into the 4 the qtr. We had multiple sacks, TFLs and forced TOs. That's good enough.

I didn't like the 3 man rushes, soft zones or Kirby being out there at all but we didn't yield much. The problem is when they moved the ball it looked easy but that doesn't take away from the results through 3 qtrs.

The problem is the offense. 4 consecutive 3/4 play drives coming out of the locker room sucked the life out of the D. Game over, this is on two men, Al Golden and James Coley.

It was good enough for yesterday. It is not good enough against better competition and certainly not as we expect to move forward toward Championship (Conference, at least) success. Louisville is not a great team and they made a lot of mistakes last night - dropped balls, etc.

I don't disagree that the offense is a problem. I simply disagree that the defense we saw last night is good enough going forward. At base, it lacks sufficient disruption. That's like looking at last year's UF game and saying "hey, we got TOs, some sacks and made plays when we needed to - that's enough." Yep. For that one game. It is a reaction to a specific game rather than a look at whether the concepts will hold up in future scenarios.

You have to tell me where I said it was good enough for the rest of the season? Was it good enough to win last night? Yes it was and you can't tell me that it wasn't. Causing 2 TOs in the opponents RZ is not only stopping teams, but putting points on the board for us. Again if you read my post, I didn't like a lot of the things that Dnfr did, but I'm not having a global scheme discussion. I don't like what we do either. But our interior was markedly better and Kamulu, Chick and McCord all played well. AQM makes a bit of a difference and I think that's why you saw so many 3 man fronts, we didn't have another edge rusher (Chad?) opposite of TMc. Again, not my thoughts but theirs. Dropped passes happen all of the time and it's part of the game so I don't see how that's a point seeing that our one dropped pass changed the trajectory of the game. They usually wind up evening out as do penalties.

Acting like a L'ville led Petrino teams sucks doesn't make much sense to me. If they were in the Coastal they'd win it this year. Offense was the problem last night and the defense was gassed from not coming off the field in the 3rd qtr.

I used your post to talk about the issue of not using yesterday's performance to project defense going forward. I didn't attribute any comments to you directly. Perhaps I should have worded my "disagreement" better in that I disagree with the concept that what we saw last night would be sufficient going forward - not with anything you said.

I'm not acting like a L'ville-led Petrino team sucks. I said they are not a great team. They're an average team. They look slightly worse than last year. What they'd do in the coastal is not relevant to me because the Coastal mostly sucks. L'Ville, last night, was a very beatable team.

They're not an average team. They are a good team, easily a top 25 team. They play with an edge and confidence that good teams play with and have size and talent up front. Good LBs who are physical and instinctive. I have no clue how good their secondary is becasue we didn't test them once. Good at the skill positions too. Were they beatable? Absolutely, but I think that says a lot about the talent our players individually have and the terrible coaching that went on last night on the offensive side of the ball.

The scheme is the scheme at this point. We saw it work at times when McCord was chasing stuff down from the backside because our DLine was doing a great job with their gaps. Any DC on the planet will take 8 Tfls, 4 sacks, 2 FF. That is serious production against a good team.
 
You kind of got the feeling that it was Louisville's lackluster play on offense and not stellar defensive play by us. I see the same fundamental problems with our defense and the last couple years, which is no surprise. We will be a little better since we have better athletes but when we play some good offenses, the 500 yard performances will be back.

This, there were open WRs that their QB just missed. A couple of dropped passes that should have by caught by them. We were lucky they didn't have a seasoned QB back there or we would have been picked apart. We gave them cushion all night despite the fact that they had a first time QB with an average group of WRs. This scheme will continue to be carved up as the season goes on.
 
You kind of got the feeling that it was Louisville's lackluster play on offense and not stellar defensive play by us. I see the same fundamental problems with our defense and the last couple years, which is no surprise. We will be a little better since we have better athletes but when we play some good offenses, the 500 yard performances will be back.

This, there were open WRs that their QB just missed. A couple of dropped passes that should have by caught by them. We were lucky they didn't have a seasoned QB back there or we would have been picked apart. We gave them cushion all night despite the fact that they had a first time QB with an average group of WRs. This scheme will continue to be carved up as the season goes on.

Good Lord, what are you people missing? No one is saying that the defense suddenly turned the corner. We know they have issues. What we're saying is that their performance last night contributed to a win, and the offense snatched it away. Does it matter WHY the defense had some success? The fact is that they DID, and even a modicum of offensive competence wins that game.
 
You kind of got the feeling that it was Louisville's lackluster play on offense and not stellar defensive play by us. I see the same fundamental problems with our defense and the last couple years, which is no surprise. We will be a little better since we have better athletes but when we play some good offenses, the 500 yard performances will be back.

This, there were open WRs that their QB just missed. A couple of dropped passes that should have by caught by them. We were lucky they didn't have a seasoned QB back there or we would have been picked apart. We gave them cushion all night despite the fact that they had a first time QB with an average group of WRs. This scheme will continue to be carved up as the season goes on.

Good Lord, what are you people missing? No one is saying that the defense suddenly turned the corner. We know they have issues. What we're saying is that their performance last night contributed to a win, and the offense snatched it away. Does it matter WHY the defense had some success? The fact is that they DID, and even a modicum of offensive competence wins that game.

Who cares. I'm not interested in seeing a defense that plays "good enough" despite it's deficiencies to win a game against an average team. I want to see if the problems on the defense have been addressed and fixed. They haven't. I want to see us playing on a level that is commiserate with our talent, meaning competing on a national stage with the best teams in the country. We're not.
 
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