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What I've found so disconcerting about some of the persistent Mario rumors (PR machine) is that it would buck the expectation that this will be a thorough search.

The committee and admin absolutely need to show a thorough search this time around. If they fake it, it won't work. Fans are already skeptical.

If Mario is even being considered it means the idiots have learned nothing. I don't mind some fake if it is to justify hiring Butch. I am more worried about the women on the committee. I am okay with Carly Fiorina for President but picking the UM coach is way to important to take a chance on another girly choice.
 
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1. Mullen
2. Herman
3. Holgorsen

No way we hire Mario or Strong or Stoops or Schiano or Butch (sorry, BBB) over Holgorsen, IMO. Especially is he wins out, and finishes 8-4, with losses to Baylor, TCU, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State.

And speaking of Oklahoma State ... If you're telling me we have a shot at Gundy, I could be convinced to take him over Mullen.
 
What I've found so disconcerting about some of the persistent Mario rumors (PR machine) is that it would buck the expectation that this will be a thorough search.

The committee and admin absolutely need to show a thorough search this time around. If they fake it, it won't work. Fans are already skeptical.

If Mario is even being considered it means the idiots have learned nothing. I don't mind some fake if it is to justify hiring Butch. I am more worried about the women on the committee. I am okay with Carly Fiorina for President but picking the UM coach is way to important to take a chance on another girly choice.


Lu has heard that Mario is being announced this week. And I know he was skeptical of it. I don't buy it either. If it was true, then they wouldn't have announced the hiring of a search firm the week of the supposed hiring. I think (and hope) the info is bad. I'm choosing to be positive. They know how important this hire is. We have a new president that seemingly cares about winning. They fired golden mid season. I have faith that they will get this right and hire someone we are pleased with. If they hire Mario, then they truly do not care about winning and we all need to stop investing in Miami football.
 
What I've found so disconcerting about some of the persistent Mario rumors (PR machine) is that it would buck the expectation that this will be a thorough search.

The committee and admin absolutely need to show a thorough search this time around. If they fake it, it won't work. Fans are already skeptical.

If Mario is even being considered it means the idiots have learned nothing. I don't mind some fake if it is to justify hiring Butch. I am more worried about the women on the committee. I am okay with Carly Fiorina for President but picking the UM coach is way to important to take a chance on another girly choice.


Lu has heard that Mario is being announced this week. And I know he was skeptical of it. I don't buy it either. If it was true, then they wouldn't have announced the hiring of a search firm the week of the supposed hiring. I think (and hope) the info is bad. I'm choosing to be positive. They know how important this hire is. We have a new president that seemingly cares about winning. They fired golden mid season. I have faith that they will get this right and hire someone we are pleased with. If they hire Mario, then they truly do not care about winning and we all need to stop investing in Miami football.

I already stopped all $$$ to the university, even changes the grandkids tuition trust to prohibit Miami. I was hoping to feel comfortable reversing that decision but Mario will lock it in stone instead. The only thing left that I invest is time on this site. Mario will probably end even that. It is impossible for me imagine anyone but Butch except maybe a current NFL HC, Urban or Saban. If they had fired Al 2 years ago, then they maybe could have played a game of chance but not now. The fork is hovering over us and about to be stuck in. Without Butch we are cooked.
 
1. Mullen
2. Herman
3. Holgorsen

No way we hire Mario or Strong or Stoops or Schiano or Butch (sorry, BBB) over Holgorsen, IMO. Especially is he wins out, and finishes 8-4, with losses to Baylor, TCU, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State.

And speaking of Oklahoma State ... If you're telling me we have a shot at Gundy, I could be convinced to take him over Mullen.

What the heck is a Holgorsen? Do you mean Mike Gundy's girlfriend who is about to get fired from some half-way house for coaches? Mullen? Done what? Okay, Herman hasn't been a HC long enough to know if he is worth a crap yet, so if you want a love affair with the new kid, I understand. And I agree about Mario, Strong and even Stoops(either one) and Greg (never want anything psu again) but Butch? Anyone other than Butch not named after a Pope, the devil, or currently coaches saints, needs to be explained and justified more than Obama's refugees. There is no second shot here. It is a long shot to recover from Donna planned destruction; we certainly cannot take another mishap choice. Butch might get out-coached in a playoff game but he will bring enough talent to make sure we get to one. Four years from now you can bring Herman in the win an NC with Butch's boys like other have done.
 
1. Mullen
2. Herman
3. Holgorsen

No way we hire Mario or Strong or Stoops or Schiano or Butch (sorry, BBB) over Holgorsen, IMO. Especially is he wins out, and finishes 8-4, with losses to Baylor, TCU, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State.

And speaking of Oklahoma State ... If you're telling me we have a shot at Gundy, I could be convinced to take him over Mullen.

What the heck is a Holgorsen? Do you mean Mike Gundy's girlfriend who is about to get fired from some half-way house for coaches? Mullen? Done what? Okay, Herman hasn't been a HC long enough to know if he is worth a crap yet, so if you want a love affair with the new kid, I understand. And I agree about Mario, Strong and even Stoops(either one) and Greg (never want anything psu again) but Butch? Anyone other than Butch not named after a Pope, the devil, or currently coaches saints, needs to be explained and justified more than Obama's refugees. There is no second shot here. It is a long shot to recover from Donna planned destruction; we certainly cannot take another mishap choice. Butch might get out-coached in a playoff game but he will bring enough talent to make sure we get to one. Four years from now you can bring Herman in the win an NC with Butch's boys like other have done.

and even then... getting out coached can be mitigated with a good staff of coordinators.
 
1. Kelly ( minor show cause that expired last year)
2. Butch, Strong
3. Patterson
4. Herman

But I might be the only person on this site that values recruiting the SFL area as one of the biggest factors there is.

Only one team has won the title since 2000 without having at least one of their championship team's classes being ranked in the top 2. Auburn did it but they had a 4th ranked class.

65% of the championship teams since 2000 have at least half of their championship team’s classes ranked in the top 4.

The avg 4 yr class ranking of all championships team's since 2000 is 7.5. With none averaging outside 13.

You look at the so called modern coaching monsters and none of them won a title before they had top ranked classes.

Saban, Mack and Caroll have never won a title without a team that had a number 1 ranked class on it.
Jimbo, Urban, and Les have never won a title without a team that had a number 2 ranked class on it.

Saban didn't have highly ranked classes at MSU and never won squat. He came to LSU and after 8-5 season where he got shut out and embarrassed by Alabama (31-0) and people were calling for his head he pulls in the number 1 class and then wins his first title.
 
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My dream: Chip Kelly

1. Butch - Other than maybe Pagano, I have zero interest in anyone else with UM ties.
2. Anyone with an established record of building a good program (i.e. Patterson, Gundy, etc.)
3. Herman - If we go with a, "rising star," he is the only guy I'm interested in.
4. Move down to FCS, or drop football entirely.
 
Butch
Herman
Strong

I like Fuente but I've heard rumors he's not interested.

Herman
Butch
Strong

1) Tom Herman

2) Charlie Strong

3) Dino Babers

Smh glad yall not on the committee. .. Morey u messed a good line up by putting strong on there. If strong can't make it at Texas what makes u think he'll do better here. They're not even competitive to say the least.
 
Butch
Herman
Strong

I like Fuente but I've heard rumors he's not interested.

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D$ -

Have you heard Herman IS interested?
Will the admin realistically get around the UNC kerfuffle?
What letter grade would Chud and Mario get from you?
 
Butch
Herman
Strong

I like Fuente but I've heard rumors he's not interested.

Herman
Butch
Strong

1) Tom Herman

2) Charlie Strong

3) Dino Babers

Smh glad yall not on the committee. .. Morey u messed a good line up by putting strong on there. If strong can't make it at Texas what makes u think he'll do better here. They're not even competitive to say the least.

Because Strong has proven he can win titles and BCS bowl games with Florida kids. He has also proven he can develop players and has a very high success rate of developing Florida players into NFLers. At Texas he has proven that without a good OC and without top ranked classes made of Florida players he has trouble. What he has done at Louisville is more indicative of what he would do at Miami than Texas is. The Big 5 conference crap is meaningless because his Louisville teams would destroy this Texas team.
 
Butch
Herman
Strong

I like Fuente but I've heard rumors he's not interested.

Herman
Butch
Strong

1) Tom Herman

2) Charlie Strong

3) Dino Babers

Smh glad yall not on the committee. .. Morey u messed a good line up by putting strong on there. If strong can't make it at Texas what makes u think he'll do better here. They're not even competitive to say the least.

Because Strong has proven he can win titles and BCS bowl games with Florida kids. He has also proven he can develop players and has a very high success rate of developing Florida players into NFLers. At Texas he has proven that without a good OC and without top ranked classes made of Florida players he has trouble. What he has done at Louisville is more indicative of what he would do at Miami than Texas is. The Big 5 conference crap is meaningless because his Louisville teams would destroy this Texas team.

You do understand that his OC at Texas was his hand picked OC, right? Any way you slice it that OC failure was Strong's failure.
 
Butch
Herman
Strong

I like Fuente but I've heard rumors he's not interested.

Herman
Butch
Strong

1) Tom Herman

2) Charlie Strong

3) Dino Babers

Smh glad yall not on the committee. .. Morey u messed a good line up by putting strong on there. If strong can't make it at Texas what makes u think he'll do better here. They're not even competitive to say the least.
I believe it's just not the right fit for him at Texas. Could be wrong who knows just my opinion.
 
Butch
Herman
Strong

I like Fuente but I've heard rumors he's not interested.

Herman
Butch
Strong

1) Tom Herman

2) Charlie Strong

3) Dino Babers

Smh glad yall not on the committee. .. Morey u messed a good line up by putting strong on there. If strong can't make it at Texas what makes u think he'll do better here. They're not even competitive to say the least.

Because Strong has proven he can win titles and BCS bowl games with Florida kids. He has also proven he can develop players and has a very high success rate of developing Florida players into NFLers. At Texas he has proven that without a good OC and without top ranked classes made of Florida players he has trouble. What he has done at Louisville is more indicative of what he would do at Miami than Texas is. The Big 5 conference crap is meaningless because his Louisville teams would destroy this Texas team.

You do understand that his OC at Texas was his hand picked OC, right? Any way you slice it that OC failure was Strong's failure.

Absolutely the guy was on his staff with him at Florid and won awards in the Big 12 so he came in with accolades from a conference and in an area that Strong was not familiar with. It was stretch to get someone he knew in an area he didn't and he is about to pay the price for that mistake. If he came to Miami he wouldn't bring that guy and would likely seek out a Miami guy. Miami has offensive play makers coming out of the woodwork.
 
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Butch
Herman
Strong

I like Fuente but I've heard rumors he's not interested.



1) Tom Herman

2) Charlie Strong

3) Dino Babers

Smh glad yall not on the committee. .. Morey u messed a good line up by putting strong on there. If strong can't make it at Texas what makes u think he'll do better here. They're not even competitive to say the least.

Because Strong has proven he can win titles and BCS bowl games with Florida kids. He has also proven he can develop players and has a very high success rate of developing Florida players into NFLers. At Texas he has proven that without a good OC and without top ranked classes made of Florida players he has trouble. What he has done at Louisville is more indicative of what he would do at Miami than Texas is. The Big 5 conference crap is meaningless because his Louisville teams would destroy this Texas team.

You do understand that his OC at Texas was his hand picked OC, right? Any way you slice it that OC failure was Strong's failure.

Absolutely the guy was on his staff with him at Florid and won awards in the Big 12 so he came in with accolades from a conference and in an area that Strong was not familiar with. It was stretch to get someone he knew in an area he didn't and he is about to pay the price for that mistake. If he came to Miami he wouldn't bring that guy and would likely seek out a Miami guy. Miami has offensive play makers coming out of the woodwork.

Coach Strong at Texas:

- Unlimited Resources

- Unlimited Bag Men

- Can hire whoever he desires

- Texas is #2 /#3 recruiting ground in the country flip a coin cali/tex

-surrounded by Louisiana Arkansas & Oklahoma fertile recruiting grounds even though he really doesn't have to leave the lone star state

-inherited a top 20 recruiting class from 2010-2015 ... mind you 24/7 sports had then in the top top 3 recruiting class from 2011-12..

- 6-7 in his first year

- 4-6 in his 2nd year... so far

He has the better players playing against better competition in the Big XII and not producing...
Compare his athletes to TCU, ISU, OK ST, WVU

-They competed against Ok St
-TCU was a disaster,so was ISU
-They were up on wvu then just got outplayed

*Ok the ACC is weaker check
*He'll be in south florida check

BUT... Big BUT

He'll take a huge paycut coming from Texas maybe just above Louisville

He won't have bag men like he did at both schools

He won't have time to build anything like he did at Louisville the Texas fan base is giving him the same dosage of the love we had for golden this season and it's just his 2nd year...

He does less with more against good competition how is he going to doing more with less against average competition


What does he bring to the field besides South florida kids

I used to think defense and a coach that can make adjustments but I see someone that was thrown a lamborghini and still stuck in the drive way

Give me a coach that was given a rusted 72 chevy Chevelle an old school in the dumps and turned it to a classic.So when he get the keys to a Ferrari he'd appreciate it.Strong simply is not that guy.
 
Butch
Herman
Strong

I like Fuente but I've heard rumors he's not interested.

Herman
Butch
Strong

1) Tom Herman

2) Charlie Strong

3) Dino Babers

Smh glad yall not on the committee. .. Morey u messed a good line up by putting strong on there. If strong can't make it at Texas what makes u think he'll do better here. They're not even competitive to say the least.

Because Strong has proven he can win titles and BCS bowl games with Florida kids. He has also proven he can develop players and has a very high success rate of developing Florida players into NFLers. At Texas he has proven that without a good OC and without top ranked classes made of Florida players he has trouble. What he has done at Louisville is more indicative of what he would do at Miami than Texas is. The Big 5 conference crap is meaningless because his Louisville teams would destroy this Texas team.

So he beats a Muschamp corched Gator squad, after playing the softest schedule imaginable, filled with kids who A) can't get into actual schools academically and B) the rest recruited by a guy who is now banned from the NCAA, and does well enough to get hired away from the mid major.

He then goes to the Power-5 team, that had 8 wins the year prior, and 9 wins the year prior to that. He was given multiple top 10 recruiting classes. And then absolutely fails worse than any coach maybe ever at a school with such resources.

And this man is desirable to you?

Al Golden, who walked into a team that had previously less wins, ****tier recruiting classes, and a massive NCAA scandal, performed better his first two years than Charlie did. Let that sink in.
 
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