Cristobal AD search news

[Trav]

This. A loss to Utah this weekend and I think they'll lose, the fanbase will start to turn on him.

So will ours

 

[Bender]

You are 100% correct.

While we have some very bright/connected posters, this board also features some of the dumbest, most reactionary, most uninformed fans on any sports website. And those people tend to be loud. And those people will crap all over posters with valid information (particularly if you are not 100% right every single time) and then post any random "report" from any random website or social media account as if those "reports" are more reliable than CIS posters with connections and knowledge.

This entire thread is filled with the same defective "if we did it once and it didn't work, we can never do it again" illogic, not to mention the "nobody with any Miami connection can ever be hired" stupidity. Good lord, if Nick Saban was a UM alum, you'd still have a vocal group screaming for a "national search".

Cribby, you can be a witness...you and I PM'd weeks ago, and I gave you the name of a couple of BOT guys who would likely be taking the lead if UM (collectively) decided to make a change...and you can tell these "I don't think anything is actually happening until I read it in a Barry Jackson article" dopes that one of the names I cited is now being identified in lots of news reports...and before I mentioned it to you and Spike and a few others, almost nobody mentioned this guy's name on this board...

Look, in an ideal "Sam Jankovich" world, we would NEVER need a national search (for a head coach). We would have an AD who stays on top of all the best candidates, and has a list of names "in his back pocket" as Sam always did. And what is REALLY needed, by an AD or anyone else responsible for these hirings, is a moderate amount of open-mindedness and a pre-existing profile of who we should be hiring. Manny may be a nice guy, but it doesn't make logical sense to go from a head coach with 18 years of head coaching experience...to a guy with 18 days of head coaching experience. And that decision has NOTHING to do with hiring a search firm, it has everything to do with Beta Blake NOT recognizing the attributes that Richt brought to the job (which exceeded the attributes that Shannon/Golden brought) and then locking in on only ONE guy (that he liked) with no prior head coaching experience.

Unfortunately, we have a bunch of dopey fans who only focus on resume, rather than the combination of resume, accomplishments, presentation (of ideas/plans/goals), and personal attributes. We have fans who cannot fathom how certain coaching candidates have serious background/behavioral issues which will be disqualifiers for their hiring. Good lord, we had a thread about hiring Orgeron, who was actually fired by Miami for alcoholism and violence against a woman. Not fired by another school. BY MIAMI. I like Coach Orgeron, but he's never getting a job at UM ever again, at any level.

We have posters who think that a "national search" will somehow uncover hidden coaching gems. We need to deal with reality. Outside of Saban-Swinney-Meyer (and maybe Jimbo), we are not going to identify any other coaches who have succeeded on the P5 level without SOME form of failure. Bad losses. Prior firings. Inability to dominate even at a P5 conference level. So we have to find someone who has learned from past mistakes and is hungry (and grateful) for the chance to re-prove himself at a (formerly) great football school with a legitimate chance to win more national championships. It still boggles the mind as to how many of our dopey porsters will swear that we MUST hire Kiffin (because, you know, FAU/Ole Miss) while they continue to rip Mario for, you know, FIU.

Plenty of great national-championship-winning coaches were hired without "national searches". Dabo Swinney was Clemson's WIDE RECEIVERS COACH. Alabama (and LSU) didn't do "national searches" before hiring Nick Saban. Same with Urban Meyer. Jimbo's last couple of employers were focused on him to the exclusion of everyone else. But our fans are obsessing over Mario's diploma and a ****ty first head coaching job at FI-*******-U.

Quite frankly, we should be **** happy and lucky to be able to hire Mario without having an AD-in-office like Sam Jankovich. If Sam Jankovich were alive today, you know that Mario's name would be on the list in his back pocket. But some of our crazy fans would still find reasons to nitpick.

Ridiculous.

disclaimer: this is just a pun, the post itself is 1000% correct from start to finish.

 

[Salt]

I dont agree with their thinking I am just sharing what I hear from the Oregon people I have talked to. I dont think its a bad job but I dont think that it would be crazy if Mario left it for Miami.

If he is successful, don't know...given the keys to Eugene or Miami? Tough one.

 

[Trav]

You are 100% correct.

While we have some very bright/connected posters, this board also features some of the dumbest, most reactionary, most uninformed fans on any sports website. And those people tend to be loud. And those people will crap all over posters with valid information (particularly if you are not 100% right every single time) and then post any random "report" from any random website or social media account as if those "reports" are more reliable than CIS posters with connections and knowledge.

This entire thread is filled with the same defective "if we did it once and it didn't work, we can never do it again" illogic, not to mention the "nobody with any Miami connection can ever be hired" stupidity. Good lord, if Nick Saban was a UM alum, you'd still have a vocal group screaming for a "national search".

Cribby, you can be a witness...you and I PM'd weeks ago, and I gave you the name of a couple of BOT guys who would likely be taking the lead if UM (collectively) decided to make a change...and you can tell these "I don't think anything is actually happening until I read it in a Barry Jackson article" dopes that one of the names I cited is now being identified in lots of news reports...and before I mentioned it to you and Spike and a few others, almost nobody mentioned this guy's name on this board...

Look, in an ideal "Sam Jankovich" world, we would NEVER need a national search (for a head coach). We would have an AD who stays on top of all the best candidates, and has a list of names "in his back pocket" as Sam always did. And what is REALLY needed, by an AD or anyone else responsible for these hirings, is a moderate amount of open-mindedness and a pre-existing profile of who we should be hiring. Manny may be a nice guy, but it doesn't make logical sense to go from a head coach with 18 years of head coaching experience...to a guy with 18 days of head coaching experience. And that decision has NOTHING to do with hiring a search firm, it has everything to do with Beta Blake NOT recognizing the attributes that Richt brought to the job (which exceeded the attributes that Shannon/Golden brought) and then locking in on only ONE guy (that he liked) with no prior head coaching experience.

Unfortunately, we have a bunch of dopey fans who only focus on resume, rather than the combination of resume, accomplishments, presentation (of ideas/plans/goals), and personal attributes. We have fans who cannot fathom how certain coaching candidates have serious background/behavioral issues which will be disqualifiers for their hiring. Good lord, we had a thread about hiring Orgeron, who was actually fired by Miami for alcoholism and violence against a woman. Not fired by another school. BY MIAMI. I like Coach Orgeron, but he's never getting a job at UM ever again, at any level.

We have posters who think that a "national search" will somehow uncover hidden coaching gems. We need to deal with reality. Outside of Saban-Swinney-Meyer (and maybe Jimbo), we are not going to identify any other coaches who have succeeded on the P5 level without SOME form of failure. Bad losses. Prior firings. Inability to dominate even at a P5 conference level. So we have to find someone who has learned from past mistakes and is hungry (and grateful) for the chance to re-prove himself at a (formerly) great football school with a legitimate chance to win more national championships. It still boggles the mind as to how many of our dopey porsters will swear that we MUST hire Kiffin (because, you know, FAU/Ole Miss) while they continue to rip Mario for, you know, FIU.

Plenty of great national-championship-winning coaches were hired without "national searches". Dabo Swinney was Clemson's WIDE RECEIVERS COACH. Alabama (and LSU) didn't do "national searches" before hiring Nick Saban. Same with Urban Meyer. Jimbo's last couple of employers were focused on him to the exclusion of everyone else. But our fans are obsessing over Mario's diploma and a ****ty first head coaching job at FI-*******-U.

Quite frankly, we should be **** happy and lucky to be able to hire Mario without having an AD-in-office like Sam Jankovich. If Sam Jankovich were alive today, you know that Mario's name would be on the list in his back pocket. But some of our crazy fans would still find reasons to nitpick.

Ridiculous.

Excellent post

 

[Cribby]

You are 100% correct.

While we have some very bright/connected posters, this board also features some of the dumbest, most reactionary, most uninformed fans on any sports website. And those people tend to be loud. And those people will crap all over posters with valid information (particularly if you are not 100% right every single time) and then post any random "report" from any random website or social media account as if those "reports" are more reliable than CIS posters with connections and knowledge.

This entire thread is filled with the same defective "if we did it once and it didn't work, we can never do it again" illogic, not to mention the "nobody with any Miami connection can ever be hired" stupidity. Good lord, if Nick Saban was a UM alum, you'd still have a vocal group screaming for a "national search".

Cribby, you can be a witness...you and I PM'd weeks ago, and I gave you the name of a couple of BOT guys who would likely be taking the lead if UM (collectively) decided to make a change...and you can tell these "I don't think anything is actually happening until I read it in a Barry Jackson article" dopes that one of the names I cited is now being identified in lots of news reports...and before I mentioned it to you and Spike and a few others, almost nobody mentioned this guy's name on this board...

Look, in an ideal "Sam Jankovich" world, we would NEVER need a national search (for a head coach). We would have an AD who stays on top of all the best candidates, and has a list of names "in his back pocket" as Sam always did. And what is REALLY needed, by an AD or anyone else responsible for these hirings, is a moderate amount of open-mindedness and a pre-existing profile of who we should be hiring. Manny may be a nice guy, but it doesn't make logical sense to go from a head coach with 18 years of head coaching experience...to a guy with 18 days of head coaching experience. And that decision has NOTHING to do with hiring a search firm, it has everything to do with Beta Blake NOT recognizing the attributes that Richt brought to the job (which exceeded the attributes that Shannon/Golden brought) and then locking in on only ONE guy (that he liked) with no prior head coaching experience.

Unfortunately, we have a bunch of dopey fans who only focus on resume, rather than the combination of resume, accomplishments, presentation (of ideas/plans/goals), and personal attributes. We have fans who cannot fathom how certain coaching candidates have serious background/behavioral issues which will be disqualifiers for their hiring. Good lord, we had a thread about hiring Orgeron, who was actually fired by Miami for alcoholism and violence against a woman. Not fired by another school. BY MIAMI. I like Coach Orgeron, but he's never getting a job at UM ever again, at any level.

We have posters who think that a "national search" will somehow uncover hidden coaching gems. We need to deal with reality. Outside of Saban-Swinney-Meyer (and maybe Jimbo), we are not going to identify any other coaches who have succeeded on the P5 level without SOME form of failure. Bad losses. Prior firings. Inability to dominate even at a P5 conference level. So we have to find someone who has learned from past mistakes and is hungry (and grateful) for the chance to re-prove himself at a (formerly) great football school with a legitimate chance to win more national championships. It still boggles the mind as to how many of our dopey porsters will swear that we MUST hire Kiffin (because, you know, FAU/Ole Miss) while they continue to rip Mario for, you know, FIU.

Plenty of great national-championship-winning coaches were hired without "national searches". Dabo Swinney was Clemson's WIDE RECEIVERS COACH. Alabama (and LSU) didn't do "national searches" before hiring Nick Saban. Same with Urban Meyer. Jimbo's last couple of employers were focused on him to the exclusion of everyone else. But our fans are obsessing over Mario's diploma and a ****ty first head coaching job at FI-*******-U.

Quite frankly, we should be **** happy and lucky to be able to hire Mario without having an AD-in-office like Sam Jankovich. If Sam Jankovich were alive today, you know that Mario's name would be on the list in his back pocket. But some of our crazy fans would still find reasons to nitpick.

Ridiculous.

All true.

Good to see you back.

 

[Trav]

Fom

Erickson left a quagmire...And as far as your comment that EVERY Kid craved an offer from UM in 1995...you couldn't be further from the truth....I need absolutely no lessons on what went on at UM from 95-2000...I literally lived at Hecht during those days having a family member on staff...

People would be slackjawed at the sh*t that went on under Erickson and some of the kind of guys he brought in.

 

[ThomasM]

Only if Mario and Lane pass right? You dont interview guys who are at that level and who will be that wanted this offseason. The rest of the pack you interview. You just plain offer Mario or Lane the job if they want it. They are past the stage of a real interview. Its just a "sit-down" at that point.

I hope that we land a great coach by them simply falling into our laps because they were just right there waiting to be chosen by the University of Miami. I've never known that to happen, but I can hope.

When was the last time we hired a proven, highly in demand head coach? When did we ever win a bidding war for a head coach? For the life of me I don't remember it happening, ever.

Maybe it will this time, and if it does I hope we don't over pay for a guy that flops here.

For the record, I'd take Kiffin in a heartbeat over Mario. I think he'd do a lot more with our talent, and with the talent in South Florida. I just want us to get it right, that's all. I don't want us going all gaga over Mario because he's a Miami guy, only to find out he's a bad fit for the South Florida talent that will be his recruiting base.

 

[Mr. Dynasty1]

You are 100% correct.

While we have some very bright/connected posters, this board also features some of the dumbest, most reactionary, most uninformed fans on any sports website. And those people tend to be loud. And those people will crap all over posters with valid information (particularly if you are not 100% right every single time) and then post any random "report" from any random website or social media account as if those "reports" are more reliable than CIS posters with connections and knowledge.

This entire thread is filled with the same defective "if we did it once and it didn't work, we can never do it again" illogic, not to mention the "nobody with any Miami connection can ever be hired" stupidity. Good lord, if Nick Saban was a UM alum, you'd still have a vocal group screaming for a "national search".

Cribby, you can be a witness...you and I PM'd weeks ago, and I gave you the name of a couple of BOT guys who would likely be taking the lead if UM (collectively) decided to make a change...and you can tell these "I don't think anything is actually happening until I read it in a Barry Jackson article" dopes that one of the names I cited is now being identified in lots of news reports...and before I mentioned it to you and Spike and a few others, almost nobody mentioned this guy's name on this board...

Look, in an ideal "Sam Jankovich" world, we would NEVER need a national search (for a head coach). We would have an AD who stays on top of all the best candidates, and has a list of names "in his back pocket" as Sam always did. And what is REALLY needed, by an AD or anyone else responsible for these hirings, is a moderate amount of open-mindedness and a pre-existing profile of who we should be hiring. Manny may be a nice guy, but it doesn't make logical sense to go from a head coach with 18 years of head coaching experience...to a guy with 18 days of head coaching experience. And that decision has NOTHING to do with hiring a search firm, it has everything to do with Beta Blake NOT recognizing the attributes that Richt brought to the job (which exceeded the attributes that Shannon/Golden brought) and then locking in on only ONE guy (that he liked) with no prior head coaching experience.

Unfortunately, we have a bunch of dopey fans who only focus on resume, rather than the combination of resume, accomplishments, presentation (of ideas/plans/goals), and personal attributes. We have fans who cannot fathom how certain coaching candidates have serious background/behavioral issues which will be disqualifiers for their hiring. Good lord, we had a thread about hiring Orgeron, who was actually fired by Miami for alcoholism and violence against a woman. Not fired by another school. BY MIAMI. I like Coach Orgeron, but he's never getting a job at UM ever again, at any level.

We have posters who think that a "national search" will somehow uncover hidden coaching gems. We need to deal with reality. Outside of Saban-Swinney-Meyer (and maybe Jimbo), we are not going to identify any other coaches who have succeeded on the P5 level without SOME form of failure. Bad losses. Prior firings. Inability to dominate even at a P5 conference level. So we have to find someone who has learned from past mistakes and is hungry (and grateful) for the chance to re-prove himself at a (formerly) great football school with a legitimate chance to win more national championships. It still boggles the mind as to how many of our dopey porsters will swear that we MUST hire Kiffin (because, you know, FAU/Ole Miss) while they continue to rip Mario for, you know, FIU.

Plenty of great national-championship-winning coaches were hired without "national searches". Dabo Swinney was Clemson's WIDE RECEIVERS COACH. Alabama (and LSU) didn't do "national searches" before hiring Nick Saban. Same with Urban Meyer. Jimbo's last couple of employers were focused on him to the exclusion of everyone else. But our fans are obsessing over Mario's diploma and a ****ty first head coaching job at FI-*******-U.

Quite frankly, we should be **** happy and lucky to be able to hire Mario without having an AD-in-office like Sam Jankovich. If Sam Jankovich were alive today, you know that Mario's name would be on the list in his back pocket. But some of our crazy fans would still find reasons to nitpick.

Ridiculous.

Well said fam!

 

[section9]

If I remember correctly, anyone from his current recruiting class that would potentially sign before he leaves and comes to Miami could back out of their commitment because of the coaching change, potentially setting them up to sign here. Not saying they will, but I believe that is an option.

His Oregon class that’s coming is said to be Bama-level. If he comes here, bring his kids.

 

[423Hurricane]

You are 100% correct.

While we have some very bright/connected posters, this board also features some of the dumbest, most reactionary, most uninformed fans on any sports website. And those people tend to be loud. And those people will crap all over posters with valid information (particularly if you are not 100% right every single time) and then post any random "report" from any random website or social media account as if those "reports" are more reliable than CIS posters with connections and knowledge.

This entire thread is filled with the same defective "if we did it once and it didn't work, we can never do it again" illogic, not to mention the "nobody with any Miami connection can ever be hired" stupidity. Good lord, if Nick Saban was a UM alum, you'd still have a vocal group screaming for a "national search".

Cribby, you can be a witness...you and I PM'd weeks ago, and I gave you the name of a couple of BOT guys who would likely be taking the lead if UM (collectively) decided to make a change...and you can tell these "I don't think anything is actually happening until I read it in a Barry Jackson article" dopes that one of the names I cited is now being identified in lots of news reports...and before I mentioned it to you and Spike and a few others, almost nobody mentioned this guy's name on this board...

Look, in an ideal "Sam Jankovich" world, we would NEVER need a national search (for a head coach). We would have an AD who stays on top of all the best candidates, and has a list of names "in his back pocket" as Sam always did. And what is REALLY needed, by an AD or anyone else responsible for these hirings, is a moderate amount of open-mindedness and a pre-existing profile of who we should be hiring. Manny may be a nice guy, but it doesn't make logical sense to go from a head coach with 18 years of head coaching experience...to a guy with 18 days of head coaching experience. And that decision has NOTHING to do with hiring a search firm, it has everything to do with Beta Blake NOT recognizing the attributes that Richt brought to the job (which exceeded the attributes that Shannon/Golden brought) and then locking in on only ONE guy (that he liked) with no prior head coaching experience.

Unfortunately, we have a bunch of dopey fans who only focus on resume, rather than the combination of resume, accomplishments, presentation (of ideas/plans/goals), and personal attributes. We have fans who cannot fathom how certain coaching candidates have serious background/behavioral issues which will be disqualifiers for their hiring. Good lord, we had a thread about hiring Orgeron, who was actually fired by Miami for alcoholism and violence against a woman. Not fired by another school. BY MIAMI. I like Coach Orgeron, but he's never getting a job at UM ever again, at any level.

We have posters who think that a "national search" will somehow uncover hidden coaching gems. We need to deal with reality. Outside of Saban-Swinney-Meyer (and maybe Jimbo), we are not going to identify any other coaches who have succeeded on the P5 level without SOME form of failure. Bad losses. Prior firings. Inability to dominate even at a P5 conference level. So we have to find someone who has learned from past mistakes and is hungry (and grateful) for the chance to re-prove himself at a (formerly) great football school with a legitimate chance to win more national championships. It still boggles the mind as to how many of our dopey porsters will swear that we MUST hire Kiffin (because, you know, FAU/Ole Miss) while they continue to rip Mario for, you know, FIU.

Plenty of great national-championship-winning coaches were hired without "national searches". Dabo Swinney was Clemson's WIDE RECEIVERS COACH. Alabama (and LSU) didn't do "national searches" before hiring Nick Saban. Same with Urban Meyer. Jimbo's last couple of employers were focused on him to the exclusion of everyone else. But our fans are obsessing over Mario's diploma and a ****ty first head coaching job at FI-*******-U.

Quite frankly, we should be **** happy and lucky to be able to hire Mario without having an AD-in-office like Sam Jankovich. If Sam Jankovich were alive today, you know that Mario's name would be on the list in his back pocket. But some of our crazy fans would still find reasons to nitpick.

Ridiculous.

ALL that being said, that’s an excellent point about interviewing candidates. Those tasked with hiring a HC should have already identified potential HC’s and should be seeking said candidates interest in the job.

 

[John In SLC]

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disclaimer: this is just a pun, the post itself is 1000% correct from start to finish.

Sorry two words "Be Prepared" As in Have a list of coaches if one leaves Have a 2nd choice if #1 turns you down. Be Prepared.

Excellent post!

 

[TheOriginalCane]

I know you are somewhat joking but the offensive linemen that we need for us to truly be competitive the way we want to be, they ain't in Miami lol.


Pate is one of the most objective talking heads out there. Until we prove him and pretty much everyone else wrong, I’m in the same boat as him. Until we show we are willing to actually spend all of this money that we supposedly have & keep talking about, it’s just that...talk.

Why is that "joking"?

Draw a 100-mile circle around Coral Gables and then draw a 100-mile circle around Eugene. Then let's figure out which situation would require more "PJs".

As for "offensive linemen", Mario recruits them with his own personal credibility and coaching (as a former OL), not with PJs.

And all of the Nike money in the world didn't prevent Chip Kelly or Willie Taggart from moving on. ****, Mario left his own **** alma mater for a chance to join Nick Saban's Coaching Rehab Clinic. Mario will do what he wants to do, he's not some Cuban Stepin Fetchit saying "Thank you, Mr. Knight, for all those private jets."

 

[ZeroBeachCane3]

 

[TheOriginalCane]

which booster cares enough to donate their PJ? also, lets hold off on that attorney who may or may. not be in some Miami scam

Wasn't that long ago that people used to allude to the "unnamed booster" who was willing to put up the money to fire our head football coach. That booster's name was Nevin Shapiro.

Sorry, but I prefer to roll with MasTec money. At least it's clean and the Mas brothers are UM alums.

 

[SoFlaSmitty]

Did you just intimate that Mario flew all the way to Miami for his mama's nose job?

Well, then...

He comin.

No, I just don't know if it was like knee or hip replacement compared to heart. It was def not a cosmetic surgery.

 

[Mr. Dynasty1]

 

[PIPO]

Well do you like HCs who are able to convince an elite OC such as Joe Moorhead who spent his whole career coaching east of the Mississippi to move to Oregon and coach for him? That’s a glimpse into the O he would want to run. Mario has had top 25 offenses in terms of Yards per play against power 5 every year he’s been at Oregon.

I’m no DeRuyter fan but hard to argue he hasn’t improved his defenses significantly in every stop he’s been to and he’s a former HC. They’ve had top 35 defenses in terms of yards per play against FBS in every year but 2018 since Mario has been there.

He has two brand name coordinators right now. Couple that with his elite recruiting and you can overcome any other coaching warts and be ranked #3 in the playoff with 3 weeks to go in the season - conference strength be damned. **** Miami has the second most ACC wins behind Clemson over the last 5 years. This isn’t the SEC West. Bring Mario’s recruiting prowess, program building with his proven ability to hire coordinators and let’s see how the chips fall vs Clemson and beyond.

People forget that Richt had Miami ranked 2nd in the playoff with a week to go in the regular season barely 2 years after the Golden funeral vs Clemson, and that was with a dog**** offensive scheme and a one dimensional QB. This ain’t that hard.

Thank you!!!!!

But I think Thomas needs to be smacked in the face with wins before he actually can see it. Many here as well. I get it. We’ve had 20 years of trauma.

 

[SoFlaSmitty]

TIFWIW...
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If it came down to moving mom there or her getting to stay where she is comfortable with all her friends and family. My guess would be he would move here. She is 80+ year old Cuban woman, she doesn't want to be in Oregon if she can stay in Miami. Lets hope if Mario is the guy Miami makes it worth it for him to move.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

No, I just don't know if it was like knee or hip replacement compared to heart. It was def not a cosmetic surgery.

Not sure if it was same-trip/different-trip, but there was (also?) a quiet trip to Miami for the funeral of a HS coach.

 

[nycane]

good thing he reads the board