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No offense, but this is stupid. Manny was a first time coach that was about to start at Temple.

Mario is the guy at a playoff caliber beast of a program who on paper, is way, way over our heads.

So if Miami hired Nick Saban today it would be a mistake? Stop trying to avoid success. Or take a lesson from this conversation.
I remember a time when Chip Kelly was winning big at Oregon as well. Where is he now? What makes Mario right for Miami? Does his system fit Miami talent, or will he spend 3-4 years trying to pound a square peg into a round hole? We are not Oregon. South Florida has skill position talent unlike any region in the country, and I want a coach that can max that potential out to the fullest. Is that Mario? I don't see it.
 
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So tell me then, what is it about Mario that makes you believe he is a can't miss coach? I just don't see that. What O will he run here? What's his D going to look like? I need answers, not just people assuming he'd kill it here because he can recruit well.

Don't get me wrong, we need improvement on the lines and I think he can bring that. However, I am not convinced he is some perfect candidate that is so much better than everyone else that we shouldn't even bother checking out other coaches.
There is no perfect candidate. IMO, he’s top 10-15 range as a coach. There is a whole other thread(s) on what makes him a solid option for some & not for others.

For me: Everything is about a foundation & infrastructure.

For him to come here, he would require a complete overhaul on how we do football business which would filter over into the other sports (basketball & baseball). From resources to recruiting, as he is a top 5 recruiter in this business.

There would be a line of offensive/defensive out the door of candidates wanting to coach for him here at Miami. It would be a real program. Not some random years of success here and there.

Lastly, he would be here for the long haul. 8-10+ years of high level, tough & competitive football were we no longer will avg a 7-5 record but most likely 10-12 wins per year.
 
No offense, but this is stupid. Manny was a first time coach that was about to start at Temple.

Mario is the guy at a playoff caliber beast of a program who on paper, is way, way over our heads.

So if Miami hired Nick Saban today it would be a mistake? Stop trying to avoid success. Or take a lesson from this conversation.
That guy is literally comparing a stump to an orange.
 
So tell me then, what is it about Mario that makes you believe he is a can't miss coach? I just don't see that. What O will he run here? What's his D going to look like? I need answers, not just people assuming he'd kill it here because he can recruit well.

Don't get me wrong, we need improvement on the lines and I think he can bring that. However, I am not convinced he is some perfect candidate that is so much better than everyone else that we shouldn't even bother checking out other coaches.
There’s no such thing as a can’t miss coach. That’s what makes the game so hard. You look at the pros , the cons , what said coach has done on the field and with his program. This isn’t hiring a dc that failed at his one big job with no head coach experience.
 
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No that fanbase wont. There is already a faction of that fans that doesnt like his game coaching and the losses to the teams they should beat. You have to remember if you have a lot of resources people have a lot of expectations. Oregon fans expect more than you may think in my opinion.
Ok. Well, let them respectfully tell him he can chase his dream in coaching UM and lets see how many coaches are lining up to take that job. I have had this argument before, I dont care about Phil Knight money..that isnt a great job. Like DMoney said, they couldnt even keep Willie Taggert for more than 365 days.
 
There’s no such thing as a can’t miss coach. That’s what makes the game so hard. You look at the pros , the cons , what said coach has done on the field and with his program. This isn’t hiring a dc that failed at his one big job with no head coach experience.
I guess that's my point. Since there is no can't miss coach, maybe it's a good idea to interview more than one.
 
Ok. Well, let them respectfully tell him he can chase his dream in coaching UM and lets see how many coaches are lining up to take that job. I have had this argument before, I dont care about Phil Knight money..that isnt a great job. Like DMoney said, they couldnt even keep Willie Taggert for more than 365 days.
I dont agree with their thinking I am just sharing what I hear from the Oregon people I have talked to. I dont think its a bad job but I dont think that it would be crazy if Mario left it for Miami.
 
I guess that's my point. Since there is no can't miss coach, maybe it's a good idea to interview more than one.
Only if Mario and Lane pass right? You dont interview guys who are at that level and who will be that wanted this offseason. The rest of the pack you interview. You just plain offer Mario or Lane the job if they want it. They are past the stage of a real interview. Its just a "sit-down" at that point.
 
Obviously we don’t do that anymore because if we did people would have been talking
Go to work Cribby, I just worked night shift and trying to get caught up before I go to sleep…. Now you trying to get me all excited and **** up my sleep schedule lol
 
There’s no such thing as a can’t miss coach. That’s what makes the game so hard. You look at the pros , the cons , what said coach has done on the field and with his program. This isn’t hiring a dc that failed at his one big job with no head coach experience.
Even when Saban was hired at Bama, he certainly wasnt a "cant miss" coach.
 
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You realize this is easily searchable right? Trust me it didn't take that long. And you mentioned a guy who made a Super Bowl and had a long run of success. Cristobal is not Andy Reid.
It's semantics, and you know it. Yes if Mario shows up to campus he'll technically sit down for an "interview." But if he wants the job it's not like AD is going to scrutinizing him and another 3 resumes and put him through a battery of interviews like he's interviewing for an analyst position at a hedge fund. If he wants it, it's his. You're being incredibly obtuse.
 
So tell me then, what is it about Mario that makes you believe he is a can't miss coach? I just don't see that. What O will he run here? What's his D going to look like? I need answers, not just people assuming he'd kill it here because he can recruit well.

Don't get me wrong, we need improvement on the lines and I think he can bring that. However, I am not convinced he is some perfect candidate that is so much better than everyone else that we shouldn't even bother checking out other coaches.
Well do you like HCs who are able to convince an elite OC such as Joe Moorhead who spent his whole career coaching east of the Mississippi to move to Oregon and coach for him? That’s a glimpse into the O he would want to run. Mario has had top 25 offenses in terms of Yards per play against power 5 every year he’s been at Oregon.

I’m no DeRuyter fan but hard to argue he hasn’t improved his defenses significantly in every stop he’s been to and he’s a former HC. They’ve had top 35 defenses in terms of yards per play against FBS in every year but 2018 since Mario has been there.

He has two brand name coordinators right now. Couple that with his elite recruiting and you can overcome any other coaching warts and be ranked #3 in the playoff with 3 weeks to go in the season - conference strength be damned. **** Miami has the second most ACC wins behind Clemson over the last 5 years. This isn’t the SEC West. Bring Mario’s recruiting prowess, program building with his proven ability to hire coordinators and let’s see how the chips fall vs Clemson and beyond.

People forget that Richt had Miami ranked 2nd in the playoff with a week to go in the regular season barely 2 years after the Golden funeral vs Clemson, and that was with a dog**** offensive scheme and a one dimensional QB. This ain’t that hard.
 
I having shocking news for everyone but the big programs have their guy they chase first. They have a coach in mind if he wants the job it’s over. Day was the choice at Osu, Meyer before that. Jimbo was the plan A at AM. Harbaugh at Michigan. This whole myth over interviewing guys is false, when you start having interviews your plan A’s likely said no. If Lincoln Riley wants the Lsu job he won’t interview lol.


You are 100% correct.

While we have some very bright/connected posters, this board also features some of the dumbest, most reactionary, most uninformed fans on any sports website. And those people tend to be loud. And those people will crap all over posters with valid information (particularly if you are not 100% right every single time) and then post any random "report" from any random website or social media account as if those "reports" are more reliable than CIS posters with connections and knowledge.

This entire thread is filled with the same defective "if we did it once and it didn't work, we can never do it again" illogic, not to mention the "nobody with any Miami connection can ever be hired" stupidity. Good lord, if Nick Saban was a UM alum, you'd still have a vocal group screaming for a "national search".

Cribby, you can be a witness...you and I PM'd weeks ago, and I gave you the name of a couple of BOT guys who would likely be taking the lead if UM (collectively) decided to make a change...and you can tell these "I don't think anything is actually happening until I read it in a Barry Jackson article" dopes that one of the names I cited is now being identified in lots of news reports...and before I mentioned it to you and Spike and a few others, almost nobody mentioned this guy's name on this board...

Look, in an ideal "Sam Jankovich" world, we would NEVER need a national search (for a head coach). We would have an AD who stays on top of all the best candidates, and has a list of names "in his back pocket" as Sam always did. And what is REALLY needed, by an AD or anyone else responsible for these hirings, is a moderate amount of open-mindedness and a pre-existing profile of who we should be hiring. Manny may be a nice guy, but it doesn't make logical sense to go from a head coach with 18 years of head coaching experience...to a guy with 18 days of head coaching experience. And that decision has NOTHING to do with hiring a search firm, it has everything to do with Beta Blake NOT recognizing the attributes that Richt brought to the job (which exceeded the attributes that Shannon/Golden brought) and then locking in on only ONE guy (that he liked) with no prior head coaching experience.

Unfortunately, we have a bunch of dopey fans who only focus on resume, rather than the combination of resume, accomplishments, presentation (of ideas/plans/goals), and personal attributes. We have fans who cannot fathom how certain coaching candidates have serious background/behavioral issues which will be disqualifiers for their hiring. Good lord, we had a thread about hiring Orgeron, who was actually fired by Miami for alcoholism and violence against a woman. Not fired by another school. BY MIAMI. I like Coach Orgeron, but he's never getting a job at UM ever again, at any level.

We have posters who think that a "national search" will somehow uncover hidden coaching gems. We need to deal with reality. Outside of Saban-Swinney-Meyer (and maybe Jimbo), we are not going to identify any other coaches who have succeeded on the P5 level without SOME form of failure. Bad losses. Prior firings. Inability to dominate even at a P5 conference level. So we have to find someone who has learned from past mistakes and is hungry (and grateful) for the chance to re-prove himself at a (formerly) great football school with a legitimate chance to win more national championships. It still boggles the mind as to how many of our dopey porsters will swear that we MUST hire Kiffin (because, you know, FAU/Ole Miss) while they continue to rip Mario for, you know, FIU.

Plenty of great national-championship-winning coaches were hired without "national searches". Dabo Swinney was Clemson's WIDE RECEIVERS COACH. Alabama (and LSU) didn't do "national searches" before hiring Nick Saban. Same with Urban Meyer. Jimbo's last couple of employers were focused on him to the exclusion of everyone else. But our fans are obsessing over Mario's diploma and a ****ty first head coaching job at FI-*******-U.

Quite frankly, we should be **** happy and lucky to be able to hire Mario without having an AD-in-office like Sam Jankovich. If Sam Jankovich were alive today, you know that Mario's name would be on the list in his back pocket. But some of our crazy fans would still find reasons to nitpick.

Ridiculous.
 
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