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MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

caneingville said:
Re: your first point, no, because they never retroactively undo the past.

Re: NIL payments, I don't think so, if the kids are just betting on their own. But I think the NIL play is that ESPN Bet, Draft Kings, etc., could use the kids as spokespersons, which would involve allowing them to bet and perhaps show via content creation how much their winnings are. And yes, for DII and DIII kids that could be huge. Olympic sports too.

I'm just trying to figure out the motivation here. It's the attorney in me. The NCAA isn't just doing this for fun. Someone is getting something out of it.
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I think that goes back to what you touched on about expanding and extending their market share. Opens the portal to a wider, younger population. Gotta replenish the gambling ranks. Might as well start asap. It’s like any addiction ( this is solely my opinion) start them young and hook them for life. And CFB/NCAA keeps getting kickbacks.
 
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Groz73Cane said:
I think that goes back to what you touched on about expanding and extending their market share. Opens the portal to a wider, younger population. Gotta replenish the gambling ranks. Might as well start asap. It’s like any addiction ( this is solely my opinion) start them young and hook them for life. And CFB/NCAA keeps getting kickbacks.
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Right. And bringing it back to the conference realignment, this all goes back to money and power. And we know that FBS is consolidating power to a superconference (or superleague...whatever it will end up being called...the Big 10/SEC thing). But we also know that CFB is a huge business loved by many schools, and is not limited to those 30-40 schools that will end up in the superconference. So there will be a plan to continue to generate revenue from the rest of the schools too. There is way too much money there.
 
Groz73Cane said:
Great point. But, will they wipe the slate clean for all the athletes involved in the 1951 City College scandal, the 78’ BC scandal and the 94’ ASU scandal. Might as well start clean. Just sayin’ And, can the winnings be construed as NIL payments.? D3 guys would appreciate it.
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@Notsince1985 How about the Tulane basketball scandal?!
 
It seems to me that as CFB continues its slide towards the pro style super conferences and pay for play, the tier 2/3 schools could never compete financially would be supported by the revenue generated thru the betting systems. This would allow the super conferences to draw off the lesser tiers portal and HS. Always having fresh fodder to keep the conferences viable and the lower tier schools financially solvent. Does this make sense or am I just spitballing here?
 
Groz73Cane said:
It seems to me that as CFB continues its slide towards the pro style super conferences and pay for play, the tier 2/3 schools could never compete financially would be supported by the revenue generated thru the betting systems. This would allow the super conferences to draw off the lesser tiers portal and HS. Always having fresh fodder to keep the conferences viable and the lower tier schools financially solvent. Does this make sense or am I just spitballing here?
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No, that makes complete sense to me and is exactly what I am thinking as well. I have been wondering this entire time what the revenue generation plan for all the other schools and conferences was going to be, and this aligns. There's just no way that just because these Tier 2/3 schools aren't competing for the biggest dollars that their dollars don't matter. It's the reason why Gap, Inc. has Banana Republic, Gap, Old Navy, and also Banana Republic Outlet and Gap Outlet. It's a matter of simple market segmentation and knowing who your customer is and making sure you have a product and channel for each and every segment. Because we have been seeing major shifts in CFB landscape from a technology and compliance perspective, it's the right time to all this to happen.
 
caneingville said:
No, that makes complete sense to me and is exactly what I am thinking as well. I have been wondering this entire time what the revenue generation plan for all the other schools and conferences was going to be, and this aligns. There's just no way that just because these Tier 2/3 schools aren't competing for the biggest dollars that their dollars don't matter. It's the reason why Gap, Inc. has Banana Republic, Gap, Old Navy, and also Banana Republic Outlet and Gap Outlet. It's a matter of simple market segmentation and knowing who your customer is and making sure you have a product and channel for each and every segment. Because we have been seeing major shifts in CFB landscape from a technology and compliance perspective, it's the right time to all this to happen.
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Thanks for the lesson. Hopefully the NCAA won’t do what they do best,.. F**k S**t Up! But, there’s just too much money involved for even them to ***** it up.🙌🏽
 
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Hold My Beer said:
B1G/SEC: "Tell us your institution is truly serious about football specifically and athletics in general. We're not interested in adding schools who are content with never contending for playoff berths as long as they're depositing those huge media rights and CFP checks."

VA Tech: "We're increasing our athletics budget $229M over the next four years."

Stanford: "A former player just donated $50M to the football program."

Miami: "Look at the rankings, buddy"

Even UNC can say, "Hey, Bill Belichick is a train wreck, but we spent well into eight figures trying to get football right instead of going cheap and hiring some up-and-comer nobody's ever heard of."
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We're already spending what VT is proposing to spend
 
Siap

Isn’t this $2B a one time investment? Doesn’t make sense to me if they expanded yearly deal could be much higher than current deal


 
Tony4Canes said:
Siap

Isn’t this $2B a one time investment? Doesn’t make sense to me if they expanded yearly deal could be much higher than current deal


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Thanks for the post Tony.

I don't know where Thamel is coming from either. Just because members sign onto a Grant of Rights deal doesn't mean they wouldn't expand. Plus, no one is saying schools would leave the B1G to join a Super League. They're saying a Super League would form between the SEC and B1G with whatever ACC and Big XII schools deemed worthy to join.
 
Hold My Beer said:
B1G/SEC: "Tell us your institution is truly serious about football specifically and athletics in general. We're not interested in adding schools who are content with never contending for playoff berths as long as they're depositing those huge media rights and CFP checks."

VA Tech: "We're increasing our athletics budget $229M over the next four years."

Stanford: "A former player just donated $50M to the football program."

Miami: "Look at the rankings, buddy"

Even UNC can say, "Hey, Bill Belichick is a train wreck, but we spent well into eight figures trying to get football right instead of going cheap and hiring some up-and-comer nobody's ever heard of."
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SEC/B1G is wholly full of **** with their welfare for bottom feeder programs.
 
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Tony4Canes said:
Siap

Isn’t this $2B a one time investment? Doesn’t make sense to me if they expanded yearly deal could be much higher than current deal


b1o
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Tony, I believe the GOR they reference is the GOR that would be granted to the NEW ENTITY that would then be representing the B10 in all media contract matters. From what I have read the Cal Fund would pay $2.4 billion dollars to the B10 members for TOTAL CONTROL of all media and naming rights etc for all member schools ... for a period that would run from the initial contract date through 2046. That is the GOR to the Cal Fund entity. That new entity would then be negotiating WITH the media ... FOX, NBC, CBS, ABC, ESPN ... and this new entity would have total control over the new media deals on behalf of the B10 and members.

The media payout then would be distributed between the 18 members, the new management entity, and B10 conference based on an agreed distribution.
 
Rickd said:
Tony, I believe the GOR they reference is the GOR that would be granted to the NEW ENTITY that would then be representing the B10 in all media contract matters. From what I have read the Cal Fund would pay $2.4 billion dollars to the B10 members for TOTAL CONTROL of all media and naming rights etc for all member schools ... for a period that would run from the initial contract date through 2046. That is the GOR to the Cal Fund entity. That new entity would then be negotiating WITH the media ... FOX, NBC, CBS, ABC, ESPN ... and this new entity would have total control over the new media deals on behalf of the B10 and members.

The media payout then would be distributed between the 18 members, the new management entity, and B10 conference based on an agreed distribution.
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Wow this actually seems like a pretty good design. Allows the schools to continue to be in charge of athletics but also allows the PE group to earn their return.
 
RozayCane said:
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I thought they were already doing that. Schools were allowed to buy pay insurance premiums for players for a long time, as far as I know there was no restriction on boosters giving money to schools who could use it for massive insurance policies.
 
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