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MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

The concern for Miami to be left out of whatever is next has gone from like 50% 3-4 years ago to 1%. There is no way that economically or politically Miami is not at the table. And that is basically what Joe E. is saying.
 
canesd said:
The concern for Miami to be left out of whatever is next has gone from like 50% 3-4 years ago to 1%. There is no way that economically or politically Miami is not at the table. And that is basically what Joe E. is saying.
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It was never "50%" 3-4 years ago.

It went from 5% to 1%.
 
This is going to pass the senate if its brought to the floor. and it will.

This will most likely pass the house now too- maybe with minor changes, unless someone in power blocks it from being brought to the floor- which i doubt sing GOP control and Trump wants it. both democrats and republican majorities passed it in senate commerce committee with extrapolated vote count well past 60 % in senate.

schools need to move now, then the legislation would still possibly apply anyway since its civil not criminal, they the court circus begins on freedom of association and other grounds.

don't kid yourselves- Miami has a spot in P2, Joe didn't go on QAM for no reason yesterday, BUT if this goes south by being passed and then losses in court for some reason, a bunch of schools that want to compete at highest level could be screwed revenue wise for a generation that makes it moot.

good times.
 
CaneinBroward said:
Someone forgot to tell Joe the schedule for the move was 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027. :cool:
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yes you are right. things never are true on a day, then circumstances change. but we are seemingly in the endgames now with this legislation possibly passing when many didnt think it would, me among them. wild wild wild
 
Ispyin said:
This is going to pass the senate if its brought to the floor. and it will.

This will most likely pass the house now too- maybe with minor changes, unless someone in power blocks it from being brought to the floor- which i doubt sing GOP control and Trump wants it. both democrats and republican majorities passed it in senate commerce committee with extrapolated vote count well past 60 % in senate.

schools need to move now, then the legislation would still possibly apply anyway since its civil not criminal, they the court circus begins on freedom of association and other grounds.

don't kid yourselves- Miami has a spot in P2, Joe didn't go on QAM for no reason yesterday, BUT if this goes south by being passed and then losses in court for some reason, a bunch of schools that want to compete at highest level could be screwed revenue wise for a generation that makes it moot.

good times.
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This can pass, it will be in the courts for years and years.
 
This is not a sure pass in a much more divided house, especially with the house majority against it and having their own act for a reason. The senate is much more center than the house. Also if you think the SEC and BIG10 don't have options on the table, when it comes to realignment, in the event this deal is even close to passing then i dont know what to tell you...
 
Canesfan1993 said:
This is not a sure pass in a much more divided house, especially with the house majority against it and having their own act for a reason. The senate is much more center than the house. Also if you think the SEC and BIG10 don't have options on the table, when it comes to realignment, in the event this deal is even close to passing then i dont know what to tell you...
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thought that before today. The majority of democrats voted for it, and most republicans did in committee, thus likely similar ratios in the full vote if it gets it. This will almost certainly pass the House if the Senate is 66% or so, unless the amendment process goes awry.

Go look for things that have 2/3 of the Senate that the House said no to. very rare. especially when the president supports it.

then let the courts begin
 
based on Joe E’s interview, and this bill though I haven’t looked into it much, isn’t it possible the actual gameplan is to lock conferences down - or even better would be to go back to more regional - but allow all the major conference to collectively get a unified deal and base the payouts to programs by ratings…. I’d get that would be terrible outcome if payouts were all the same and remained at B1G+Sec at their current level or higher vs b12+ACC lower like it is now…

there should probably be a minimum avg payout by the media deal, but then maybe like half of the distribution is by performance+ratings… that would seem reasonable. You don’t HAVE to separate the conferences with their own tv ratings. Ideal outcome for the students imo actually is more regional conferences with the unified tv contract. And maybe having agreements between the conferences themselves to do scheduling and cross conference games. And the CFP itself should make it a requirement you play 10 teams min (maybe 11!) against P4 teams….
 
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Ispyin said:
yes you are right. things never are true on a day, then circumstances change. but we are seemingly in the endgames now with this legislation possibly passing when many didnt think it would, me among them. wild wild wild
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Now all of the dip****s who told us we would never move to the Big 10 are going to dispute the YEAR we picked.

And very few people predicted a date-certain.

Not to mention the fact that a LOT of unintended **** happened. Like these stupid Congressional bills.
 
Ispyin said:


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I think if you looked at this from a best case scenario of intention, you could say the conferences SHOULD be more regional - especially for basically all sports besides Football and maybe men’s basketball a bit. Back like it was before. IMO like I’ve been saying 8 major conferences is the ideal outcome for college sports as a whole. 8 conferences of 8. And you have conference scheduling agreeements and all that.

Then you say these conferences are able to collectively make a tv deal. You can then hopefully set a payout structure more like the ACC has now - a floor to all teams, then heavy performance+rating payouts by team. So you can have all teams on the same tv contract (which would be more $ than all conferences doing it separate like pres Joe said). the truly more valuable teams still make their most money and aren’t entirely subsidizing ones that aren’t pulling in The money. But it also has the benefit of keeping it regional for all other colllege sports.

Then you can see how it goes. I think if you have the 8x8 (or more) setup, you can make the cfp selection very simple. But if the top football programs do still want to break into a super league, you can leave all the other sports behind, and only the top 24-48 football programs that want to make the significant investments do their own super league things. And then the super league is in the cfp. But then all the rest AND INCLUDING THE G5, gets their own playoff. To me that makes a lot of sense. And if you do that I actually think the “lower” playoff actually would still do well. Cause like you could have stil decently sized teams like Pitt//Duke/SMU/Illinois/Cal/etc competing for that with the G5 teams like Boise/Tulane/etc…

I can very much see that being the best outcome. now would I trust congress, these media companies, and the Sec/b1g making that more ideal outcome a reality? No lol
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Now all of the dip****s who told us we would never move to the Big 10 are going to dispute the YEAR we picked.

And very few people predicted a date-certain.

Not to mention the fact that a LOT of unintended **** happened. Like these stupid Congressional bills.
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Well, I do know of one guy who said we'd be in the ACC until 2034. He's got a little time before taking his victory lap.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Is he from Virginia?

Northern Virginia?
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Calinative said:
I think if you looked at this from a best case scenario of intention, you could say the conferences SHOULD be more regional - especially for basically all sports besides Football and maybe men’s basketball a bit. Back like it was before. IMO like I’ve been saying 8 major conferences is the ideal outcome for college sports as a whole. 8 conferences of 8. And you have conference scheduling agreeements and all that.

Then you say these conferences are able to collectively make a tv deal. You can then hopefully set a payout structure more like the ACC has now - a floor to all teams, then heavy performance+rating payouts by team. So you can have all teams on the same tv contract (which would be more $ than all conferences doing it separate like pres Joe said). the truly more valuable teams still make their most money and aren’t entirely subsidizing ones that aren’t pulling in The money. But it also has the benefit of keeping it regional for all other colllege sports.

Then you can see how it goes. I think if you have the 8x8 (or more) setup, you can make the cfp selection very simple. But if the top football programs do still want to break into a super league, you can leave all the other sports behind, and only the top 24-48 football programs that want to make the significant investments do their own super league things. And then the super league is in the cfp. But then all the rest AND INCLUDING THE G5, gets their own playoff. To me that makes a lot of sense. And if you do that I actually think the “lower” playoff actually would still do well. Cause like you could have stil decently sized teams like Pitt//Duke/SMU/Illinois/Cal/etc competing for that with the G5 teams like Boise/Tulane/etc…

I can very much see that being the best outcome. now would I trust congress, these media companies, and the Sec/b1g making that more ideal outcome a reality? No lol
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The BIG10 and SEC will never share their media $ with anyone. Thats why this bill is DOA. Theres 0 incentive for them to do so. I'd expect we may hear more on the realignment front before august if this bill does indeed continue to move forward. This bill is not a college athletics nirvana where we go back to regional comp, everyone gets same media payout, athletes go back to being just students, and everyone sings "we are the world" before the national title.
This is a Frankenstein attempt by certain powers within our government and at a specific university to use the struggle of lesser schools to their advantage to wrest control of college sports from the conferences and seismically change the college landscape, presumably with the "Help" of PE. This bill is a disaster, a bait and switch, and will almost certainly be challenged in court on multiple fronts for a plethora of reasons least of which is an arbitrary restriction of freedom of association of private entities and the restriction of trade with the limitation of athlete compensation. I could go on but this bill will get torn apart before its allowed to accomplish what it set out to do. In the words of the bill's main sponsor university "i'd bet on it".
 
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