MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread(Its still personal)

[Empirical Cane]

Of course the landscape changed - $$$. lol

The point is it appears the landscape planning did not include the non-football student athletes, actually non-football sports overall, and frankly, many of the traits of college football that made it special in and of itself. IMO college and conference administrators are ceding control over their entire athletic departments to the whims of TV execs.

We're going to see a world where the college football regular season is of decreased importance, fewer rivalries will be played, conferences will try to determine who will play in its conference championship when its members will play so few similar conference opponents leading to controversy over who gets to play for the conference title, and the possibility of the further NFL-ization of college football with elite teams sitting starters in their last regular season game because they have clinched a conference championship game berth and playoff berth due to the expansion to 12 team playoff.

That being said, when are the Canes getting the invite to the Big 10 or SEC? It's badly needed.

Correct. Like NFL, teams will now be built to make the playoffs, then to make a run in the playoffs.

Expect to see top 2-3 elite teams take a last regular season game off with starters.

New World Order

 

[3FW]

Private jets of course. Why do you think FSU is buying a jet. That's why Oregon asked for the extra 10 mil.

Football teams always take charters, it’s the other non revenue sports that don’t. They also play more games and for the Big 10 this is a plus for Miami and a negative for FSU and Clemson.

 

[Negro-Wan Kanobi]

In comments to ESPN on Friday, Miami athletic director Dan Radakovich echoed what Cunningham said. "Florida State is doing what Florida State feels like it needs to do," Radakovich said. "Each of our schools have to make their own decisions. But on top of all of it, we need to continue to try to make the ACC as strong as we can make it. We've got our grant of rights, we have all those other pieces that are associated with keeping ourselves together. Right now, we feel really strongly that our best course of action is to keep the ACC together and try to make it as strong as it can be."

Reminds me of coach speak.

 

[JD08]

In comments to ESPN on Friday, Miami athletic director Dan Radakovich echoed what Cunningham said. "Florida State is doing what Florida State feels like it needs to do," Radakovich said. "Each of our schools have to make their own decisions. But on top of all of it, we need to continue to try to make the ACC as strong as we can make it. We've got our grant of rights, we have all those other pieces that are associated with keeping ourselves together. Right now, we feel really strongly that our best course of action is to keep the ACC together and try to make it as strong as it can be."

Translation: waiting for the first domino.

 

[mrgreenpants]

There will be many issues to deal with in this blind money grab. Most sports are not played just once a week like football. As big a win as this is for football and being able to afford nicer facilities, coaching staffs, etc., the vast majority of non-football student-athletes will have it more difficult, especially in the classroom. Yes, just a reminder these are "college" sports after all.

Not to mention the bowl tie-ins that need to be adjusted. My personal fave is the beloved Rose Bowl. The entire college football world had to bend backward to get the Big 10 and PAC 12 to keep the Rose Bowl as a Big 10 champ vs. PAC 12 champ game as often as possible for those conferences to join the BCS and then playoff. All the talk about the "Granddaddy of them all" and the tradition of the Big10/PAC 12 matchup for decades undone by its own members.

the rose bowl will simply be the new host of the big ten championship.

/problem solved

 

[3FW]

Reminds me of coach speak.

Yep.

 

[IndayArtHauz]

In comments to ESPN on Friday, Miami athletic director Dan Radakovich echoed what Cunningham said. "Florida State is doing what Florida State feels like it needs to do," Radakovich said. "Each of our schools have to make their own decisions. But on top of all of it, we need to continue to try to make the ACC as strong as we can make it. We've got our grant of rights, we have all those other pieces that are associated with keeping ourselves together. Right now, we feel really strongly that our best course of action is to keep the ACC together and try to make it as strong as it can be."

oh no

miami is doomed

sky falling

they threw an armageddon

but sebastian didn’t come

rad es malo

 

[D7.]

rad es malo

 

[Alex Del Piero]

oh no

miami is doomed

sky falling

they threw an armageddon

but sebastian didn’t come

rad es malo

I wanted to give a biscuit to my friends mopers on this thread in this fine Sunday afternoon

 

[Yoyo82]

This is interesting. Very last paragraph:

[BGCOLOR=initial]"If FSU is planning to leave anyway, an athletic director said, there's little reason to give them more money now. Instead, ACC schools could simply wait for FSU to be the one to cut a sizable check on its way out the door."[/BGCOLOR]

[BGCOLOR=initial]I wonder if this is an angle the commissioner is taking? "Let them leave, it'll be more money for everybody else when they pay the full exit fee and GOR penalties."[/BGCOLOR]

 

[Ispyin]

Sure but we now know best Pac-12 schools could do was $25 million year so would new Big 12 be that more attractive to media?? Oregon and UW went to B1G and they were probably the best of what was left.

Maybe. maybe not. Personally, I’d bet on yourself and I hope that the market conditions are in a better spot and get a couple of bites of the apple versus one every 16 years like ACC

 

[Canedude08]

I think some of you underestimate Pitt. GT is in an area where there are so many other sports teams they get almost no attention. In Pittsburgh, they have the Steelers and that’s pretty much it. The Pirates haven’t been **** since the 80s. And on top of those things, Pitt was just in an ACC championship and has been putting players in the league every year. GT is not better than Pitt

It's not about what you've done lately, it's all about markets, it's about reach. GT is a great cultural fit for the B1G(Think Purdue, but in the South), they also bring in a major media market in Atlanta. Imagine the B1G being able to air games in Atlanta, and those local fans have a tie through GT. Now imagine if GT is able to leverage those additional funds and hire a big name coach and get their program rolling again, like they had it throughout the 90s. They were a solid 7-10 win per season program then.

I would take Pitt, GT, UNC and Miami if I were the B1G(It's unlikely Clemson and FSU are coming, they are likely SEC bound). That would sew up the eastern seaboard, it makes geographical sense and you are getting some valuable properties. UNC is worth their weight in gold for hoops and while their football program may not move the needle long term, they provide value. Pitt and Penn State together in the same conference would be huge, keep in mind the Big East should have gotten that done back in the 80s, but schools like Georgetown and Seton Hall got in the way. Ironically enough, keeping PSU out of the BE helped kicked this crap off, and is likely also why the original BE broke up. Imagine that conference with Miami, Pitt, Penn State, and possibly Notre Dame, with some other schools mixed in. That would have been a major conference.

 

[Peachycarnahan]

Translation: waiting for the first domino.

100% . . . and also creating the narrative for when he gets deposed.

 

[Ispyin]

In comments to ESPN on Friday, Miami athletic director Dan Radakovich echoed what Cunningham said. "Florida State is doing what Florida State feels like it needs to do," Radakovich said. "Each of our schools have to make their own decisions. But on top of all of it, we need to continue to try to make the ACC as strong as we can make it. We've got our grant of rights, we have all those other pieces that are associated with keeping ourselves together. Right now, we feel really strongly that our best course of action is to keep the ACC together and try to make it as strong as it can be."

In comments from chatgpt ai:

Based on the given quote, it's difficult to definitively discern that Miami's athletic director, Dan Radakovich, is employing "coach speak" to cover up agreement with Florida State's actions. He's careful to acknowledge that each school has autonomy in their decisions, including Florida State, but refrains from explicitly endorsing or criticizing their actions.

His emphasis on the importance of strengthening the ACC and maintaining unity among its members could be interpreted as a politically correct stance meant to focus on collective efforts over individual actions. However, this isn't necessarily a cover-up for agreeing with Florida State; it could also be seen as a diplomatic approach meant to avoid public controversy while underscoring the shared goals within the ACC.

Without additional context or explicit statements from Radakovich, it's speculative to draw a firm conclusion about his personal agreement or disagreement with Florida State's actions.

 

[hotshot]

Adelson/Hale writing for ESPN:

As one ACC administrator noted, the ACC is already losing the PR battle with the Big 12 -- a league with fewer signature programs, a lower TV valuation and no standalone network -- being viewed as growing and stable, while the ACC looks to be teetering. Florida State's public criticism of the league's financial picture only exacerbates that problem.
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Dan R's comments a few days ago seem to place him firmly in the "need to make the ACC stronger" camp. "Each of our schools have to make their own decisions. But, we need to continue to try to make the ACC as strong as we can make it.

We've got our GOR, we have all those other pieces that are associated with keeping ourselves together. Right now, we feel really strongly that our best course of action is to keep the ACC together and try to make it as strong as it can be."

 

[Ispyin]

Adelson/Hale writing for ESPN:

As one ACC administrator noted, the ACC is already losing the PR battle with the Big 12 -- a league with fewer signature programs, a lower TV valuation and no standalone network -- being viewed as growing and stable, while the ACC looks to be teetering. Florida State's public criticism of the league's financial picture only exacerbates that problem.
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Dan R's comments a few days ago seem to place him firmly in the "need to make the ACC stronger" camp. "Each of our schools have to make their own decisions. But, we need to continue to try to make the ACC as strong as we can make it.

We've got our GOR, we have all those other pieces that are associated with keeping ourselves together. Right now, we feel really strongly that our best course of action is to keep the ACC together and try to make it as strong as it can be."

from a reporter (one of several to be sure) who days ago bought lies and spin from multiple other people like dan all saying similar things. Make x conf stronger. No expansion. We have a great deal in place. We are coming together.

today the pac 12 is dead.

There’s no helping you.

 

[Gsugradcanefan]

 

[Rickd]

Of course the landscape changed - $$$. lol

The point is it appears the landscape planning did not include the non-football student athletes, actually non-football sports overall, and frankly, many of the traits of college football that made it special in and of itself. IMO college and conference administrators are ceding control over their entire athletic departments to the whims of TV execs.

We're going to see a world where the college football regular season is of decreased importance, fewer rivalries will be played, conferences will try to determine who will play in its conference championship when its members will play so few similar conference opponents leading to controversy over who gets to play for the conference title, and the possibility of the further NFL-ization of college football with elite teams sitting starters in their last regular season game because they have clinched a conference championship game berth and playoff berth due to the expansion to 12 team playoff.

That being said, when are the Canes getting the invite to the Big 10 or SEC? It's badly needed.

Summarizing, things are changing, some good, some bad, and we need to be a part of it and adjust. Hope Radakovich has a plan to announce we're leaving as of 2024.

 

[Rickd]

Translation: waiting for the first domino.

Yeah key words were "right now". Not necessarily 10 days from now.

 

[Rickd]

Adelson/Hale writing for ESPN:

As one ACC administrator noted, the ACC is already losing the PR battle with the Big 12 -- a league with fewer signature programs, a lower TV valuation and no standalone network -- being viewed as growing and stable, while the ACC looks to be teetering. Florida State's public criticism of the league's financial picture only exacerbates that problem.
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Dan R's comments a few days ago seem to place him firmly in the "need to make the ACC stronger" camp. "Each of our schools have to make their own decisions. But, we need to continue to try to make the ACC as strong as we can make it.

We've got our GOR, we have all those other pieces that are associated with keeping ourselves together. Right now, we feel really strongly that our best course of action is to keep the ACC together and try to make it as strong as it can be."

Key part of his comment is "right now". Once FSU announces ... things change.