Coaching search update

[Southcane]

Strong is struggling mightly at Texas is a huge warning sign for me. I don't know how he is considered at the top of our list knowing how important to get this hire right this time around.
Disappointed if this is true.
I'm still confused why DMoney thinks Stong should be a top candidate when failing at Texas. The pressure cooker here is as bad as Texas with much less resources available to him.

 

[Dirty Sprite]

I see that Belloti built that program for Chip to have the success he had. Strong had to build up Louisville from scratch and has to do the same at Texas.... completely different circumstances.

And plz don't say anything about Texas having 8 wins when Mack was fired. It was clear to everyone that Texas was no longer a program that can compete in their own division let along nationally, which is why he was fired.

You need to read more thoroughly.

Oregon was averaging 8.3 wins per season under Bellotti. That jumped to 11.5 wins under Kelly. This is a DRAMATIC increase and the results are obvious.
Kelly brought Oregon to another level, something Bellotti could never scratch.

Of course don't say that (about Mack Brown) because he was easily exceeding Strong's win total by a lot. Mack's winning percentage in his final 2 seasons (.653%) and Strong's winning percentage in his first 21 games (.429%). Mack was fired because he didn't have success anymore at UT. Strong is currently doing worse, by a lot.

Strong is cleaning up the mess Mack left him, the reason why Texas is where it's at now is bc that's the direction that team was already headed before Strong got there.

 

[Big Toney]

Some guys need to take their Canes blinders off. I would love Butch or Strong but the Strong hate I don't get. He took 3 star players from Miami and made them savages at Louisville. He kicked Florida's *** in the bowl game and kicked our *** to, not bad for a guy who can't coach

 

[Hurracanes]

DMoney, what are your thoughts on Blake James managing what is arguably the biggest hire in the football program history? Are you confident that he is competent enough to make the right choice?

Thanks for the update.

 

[Dirty Sprite]

Randy Shannon ran elite defenses as a coordinator as well. Charlie Strong is a terrrrrrible choice.

Shannon did it at one place. Strong did it at three places. And Strong has had success as a head coach, whereas Shannon had no head coaching experience.

There is only one reason people would compare Strong to Shannon and we all know what it is.

He had success at a low level program in a joke conference with zero pressure.

Clearly, he CANNOT cut it at a major program.

If Charlie Strong was white, nobody would give him a single ounce of attention. He is a miserable HC. Lots of coaches look amazing playing in joke conferences with no pressure. Charlie is the black Rich Rod.

If Strong was white you would be saying how he has to rebuild a fallen program and year 2 is clearly not enough time for anyone to do that, but he's black so ya know.

 

[Consigliere]

I see that Belloti built that program for Chip to have the success he had. Strong had to build up Louisville from scratch and has to do the same at Texas.... completely different circumstances.

And plz don't say anything about Texas having 8 wins when Mack was fired. It was clear to everyone that Texas was no longer a program that can compete in their own division let along nationally, which is why he was fired.

You need to read more thoroughly.

Oregon was averaging 8.3 wins per season under Bellotti. That jumped to 11.5 wins under Kelly. This is a DRAMATIC increase and the results are obvious.
Kelly brought Oregon to another level, something Bellotti could never scratch.

Of course don't say that (about Mack Brown) because he was easily exceeding Strong's win total by a lot. Mack's winning percentage in his final 2 seasons (.653%) and Strong's winning percentage in his first 21 games (.429%). Mack was fired because he didn't have success anymore at UT. Strong is currently doing worse, by a lot.

Strong is cleaning up the mess Mack left him, the reason why Texas is where it's at now is bc that's the direction that team was already headed before Strong got there.

And that is why they lost to Iowa State in year 2?

 

[Consigliere]

Randy Shannon ran elite defenses as a coordinator as well. Charlie Strong is a terrrrrrible choice.

Shannon did it at one place. Strong did it at three places. And Strong has had success as a head coach, whereas Shannon had no head coaching experience.

There is only one reason people would compare Strong to Shannon and we all know what it is.

He had success at a low level program in a joke conference with zero pressure.

Clearly, he CANNOT cut it at a major program.

If Charlie Strong was white, nobody would give him a single ounce of attention. He is a miserable HC. Lots of coaches look amazing playing in joke conferences with no pressure. Charlie is the black Rich Rod.

If Strong was white you would be saying how he has to rebuild a fallen program and year 2 is clearly not enough time for anyone to do that, but he's black so ya know.

There you have it, race.

 

[nope44]

Kapernick has a better qb rating than Cam. If I'm not mistaken, Cam is having his worst year and is only completing 54% of his passes.

Using Cam to support Dorsey is a very poor argument.

Have you watched Cam? He's an MVP candidate.

His numbers are low because he is surrounded by bums. Ted Ginn dropping a perfect pass last night sums up what he's dealing with. And his biggest improvement has been decision-making, which speaks well of Dorsey.

He's an MVP candidate because that team is doing well. They have the second best running game (8 yards from the first) and a top 10 defense in the league. Ryan Fitzpatrick is having a better season than him.

I'd support Dorsey for OC, but it has nothing to do with Cam.

I think if you look at Cam's play/production/#'s pre-Dorsey versus under Dorsey's tutelage you will see a considerable improvement. Cam has said it himself that Dorsey is a big reason for his improvement over the last 2years.

At least the search seems to be improving. So, we have that going for us, which is nice.

Go Canes!

His stats say otherwise. Small improvement year 1 with Dorsey, year 2 is one of his worst years, and so far year 3 is average. Cam is an average QB.

 

[Bigtip]

You guys need to stop worrying about experince all the time. When a guy can coach he can coach. Urban meyer was never a oc, art briles never a oc, dabo was never a oc and was the wr coach at clemson before he got the job.

Herman has only been a hc for half a season and people want him to run the program, but dorsey can't be oc?

Urban Meyer had a proven track record as a HC before UF-ag hired him

 

[DMoney]

DMoney, what are your thoughts on Blake James managing what is arguably the biggest hire in the football program history? Are you confident that he is competent enough to make the right choice?

Thanks for the update.

No idea. I've never worked with Blake and don't know him. But his career rides on this hire, so I expect an exhaustive search.

 

[cowboycane]

Your suggestion is to pair a first time OC with a defensive minded coach? How does this help us on offense?

Dorsey is a rising star. Cam Newton is the talk of the NFL and he is playing smart. Offensive coordinator at a big school is the logical next step for him. The fit with Kaaya is obvious.

Kapernick has a better qb rating than Cam. If I'm not mistaken, Cam is having his worst year and is only completing 54% of his passes.

Using Cam to support Dorsey is a very poor argument.

Cam is currently the league MVP if the season ended today. His top receivers are...and no I'm not making this up...Greg Olsen, Ted Ginn, Devin Funchess. In that order. His running backs are Jonathan Stewart's corpse and Mike Tolbert. Carolina's record is 7-0.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

D Ummy,

Any chance we can Make Miami Macho Again?

 

[Southcane]

I see that Belloti built that program for Chip to have the success he had. Strong had to build up Louisville from scratch and has to do the same at Texas.... completely different circumstances.

And plz don't say anything about Texas having 8 wins when Mack was fired. It was clear to everyone that Texas was no longer a program that can compete in their own division let along nationally, which is why he was fired.

You need to read more thoroughly.

Oregon was averaging 8.3 wins per season under Bellotti. That jumped to 11.5 wins under Kelly. This is a DRAMATIC increase and the results are obvious.
Kelly brought Oregon to another level, something Bellotti could never scratch.

Of course don't say that (about Mack Brown) because he was easily exceeding Strong's win total by a lot. Mack's winning percentage in his final 2 seasons (.653%) and Strong's winning percentage in his first 21 games (.429%). Mack was fired because he didn't have success anymore at UT. Strong is currently doing worse, by a lot.

Strong is cleaning up the mess Mack left him, the reason why Texas is where it's at now is bc that's the direction that team was already headed before Strong got there.

Forgive my ignorance but please explain the mess that Mack left at Texas.

 

[The Franchise]

Make Miami Macho Again!

Glad to see someone finally picking up on my Make Miami Macho Again! campaign. I thought that thing was dead in the water a few weeks ago when no one jumped on board.

We know that he knows what a Miami style defense looks like. We know that he's got Miami connections. He's got a cool beard. He's young.

I just wonder if we're setting our hopes too high with these calls for Chip Kelly and Chuck Pagano and Macho. Do we think the job is more appealing than it really is?

Nevertheless, I say Make Miami Macho Again! Get Beardy Ryan in here NOW!!!

 

[Fawk_U Haters]

I see that Belloti built that program for Chip to have the success he had. Strong had to build up Louisville from scratch and has to do the same at Texas.... completely different circumstances.

And plz don't say anything about Texas having 8 wins when Mack was fired. It was clear to everyone that Texas was no longer a program that can compete in their own division let along nationally, which is why he was fired.

You need to read more thoroughly.

Oregon was averaging 8.3 wins per season under Bellotti. That jumped to 11.5 wins under Kelly. This is a DRAMATIC increase and the results are obvious.
Kelly brought Oregon to another level, something Bellotti could never scratch.

Of course don't say that (about Mack Brown) because he was easily exceeding Strong's win total by a lot. Mack's winning percentage in his final 2 seasons (.653%) and Strong's winning percentage in his first 21 games (.429%). Mack was fired because he didn't have success anymore at UT. Strong is currently doing worse, by a lot.

Strong is cleaning up the mess Mack left him, the reason why Texas is where it's at now is bc that's the direction that team was already headed before Strong got there.

Forgive my ignorance but please explain the mess that Mack left at Texas.

You can compare it to the mess the U was in 2006-2007.

 

[Thommy30w]

Strong is struggling mightly at Texas is a huge warning sign for me. I don't know how he is considered at the top of our list knowing how important to get this hire right this time around.
Disappointed if this is true.
I'm still confused why DMoney thinks Stong should be a top candidate when failing at Texas. The pressure cooker here is as bad as Texas with much less resources available to him.

Completely disagree with pressure cooker as bad at Miami as it is Texas. Much more pressure to succeed at Texas than at Miami.

 

[Klamalama]

anyone saying Dorsey coming here as qb coach is crazy. No way he makes a lat move. Next step for him is an OC job.

Absolutely. There have been several NFL QB coaches that went directly to HC; Andy Reid comes to mind.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

Make Miami Macho Again!

Glad to see someone finally picking up on my Make Miami Macho Again! campaign. I thought that thing was dead in the water a few weeks ago when no one jumped on board.

We know that he knows what a Miami style defense looks like. We know that he's got Miami connections. He's got a cool beard. He's young.

I just wonder if we're setting our hopes too high with these calls for Chip Kelly and Chuck Pagano and Macho. Do we think the job is more appealing than it really is?

Nevertheless, I say Make Miami Macho Again! Get Beardy Ryan in here NOW!!!

He has done more with less than any coach in history. Need recommendations? Just talk to his former players.

Make Miami Macho Again!

 

[ItsMeD]

I would take either one. I don't understand the hate for Strong. He's having a tough time in texas, but he just may not be a good fit there. Kinda like rich rod at michigan. We will know how serious they are (and how much money they are willing to spend) if Richt gets fired at Georgia.

 

[The Franchise]

Strong is struggling mightly at Texas is a huge warning sign for me. I don't know how he is considered at the top of our list knowing how important to get this hire right this time around.
Disappointed if this is true.
I'm still confused why DMoney thinks Stong should be a top candidate when failing at Texas. The pressure cooker here is as bad as Texas with much less resources available to him.

Completely disagree with pressure cooker as bad at Miami as it is Texas. Much more pressure to succeed at Texas than at Miami.

So he's a catastrophic failure because there's too much pressure to win? That's a great trait we should look for in our next HC.

You know who's not scared to win? Beardy Ryan.

Make Miami Macho Again!