Coach Ice

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So Ice gets credit for not being able to convince his son to sign with UM despite UM clearly wanting him because his son is proving to not be a very good QB?

Sounds good.

UM clearly wanted him to be a QB?

UM clearly wanted Ice's son at UM. Ice was a coach at UM. Ice couldn't convince his own son to sign with UM.

Not that tough to follow.
 
So Ice gets credit for not being able to convince his son to sign with UM despite UM clearly wanting him because his son is proving to not be a very good QB?

Sounds good.

UM clearly wanted him to be a QB?

UM clearly wanted Ice's son at UM. Ice was a coach at UM. Ice couldn't convince his own son to sign with UM.

Not that tough to follow.

I agree with you. Your previous post was a little confusing the way you worded it. My fault.
 
It is whatever Mark wants, except for one guy and we all know who that is. We sink or tread water with Mark now. If we get lucky, maybe we get to swim. His big pick is DC and what type of D we will run. He has a QB and should be able to score points so success or failure will be determined on the defense as it has always been at THE U.
 
Not retaining him is fine with me, but making up unfounded complaints and disparaging him is something totally different and completely unwarranted.

Right Jack71! U notice Jagr didn't refute that they needed defending, he is just mad that I'm bold enough to do so. In his deluded mind, the problem is my defense of them, and not the fact that they unfortunately require/need defending.

Oh, I thought jack was being sarcastic.

And I am not mad about anything. You're the textbook angry black man. Everything is racist. I find it hilarious that the first thing you see is black, then you might consider facts somewhere down the road. People hated Shannon? Gotta be because he's black. Haven't seen much from Ice? Gotta be because he's black.

Dude has to be a sht head Muslim.....no doubt.
 
ICE will be alright, his career is just getting started, so it's nothing for him to take a supporting role & work his way up!

It isn't like he was getting a $500k salary here at Da U!

Kehoe on the other hand, will be working in the JUCO ranks the rest of his life...
 
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Coaches I think that might get looks at....
WR - Kevin Beard
TE - Larry Scott
LB - Hurlie Brown
LB - Kareem Brown
DB - Paul Williams

Support Staff-
Recruiting - Jorge Baez
Recruiting - Brooke Wilson (look ole girl up... wow)

On the bubble -
OC - James Coley (would have to probably take a demotion)
SC - Andreu Swansey

Gone -
OL - Ken Kehoe
DC - Mark D'Onofrio
DL - Randy Melvin
QC - 3

*** I don't know ****, and this isn't anything official, just my uneducated opinion.

"DB - Paul Williams"??????????

Are you out of your mind!!!!!

I didn't say I thought it would be a good idea, I said I think he may get a look to stay on....

If it was my opinion, I wouldn't keep anyone outside of KB, Scott, and both Browns, and Baez. All the rest would be gone.

IMO Baez is the only must due to recruting. Everyone else is at Richt discretion don't care either way. The Temple coaches should be done.
 
Coaches I think that might get looks at....
WR - Kevin Beard
TE - Larry Scott
LB - Hurlie Brown
LB - Kareem Brown
DB - Paul Williams

Support Staff-
Recruiting - Jorge Baez
Recruiting - Brooke Wilson (look ole girl up... wow)

On the bubble -
OC - James Coley (would have to probably take a demotion)
SC - Andreu Swansey

Gone -
OL - Ken Kehoe
DC - Mark D'Onofrio
DL - Randy Melvin
QC - 3

*** I don't know ****, and this isn't anything official, just my uneducated opinion.

"DB - Paul Williams"??????????

Are you out of your mind!!!!!

I didn't say I thought it would be a good idea, I said I think he may get a look to stay on....

If it was my opinion, I wouldn't keep anyone outside of KB, Scott, and both Browns, and Baez. All the rest would be gone.

IMO Baez is the only must due to recruting. Everyone else is at Richt discretion don't care either way. The Temple coaches should be done.



You don't care to keep Beard? Who has resurrected Stacey, made Scott look like a different receiver, and brought in Cager?

Only persons on the position staff I'd keep are Beard and Scott.
 
now that we're back in big boy football land, I really can't believe the level we stooped to being positioned into a place of such weakness feeling like these high school hires would make or break us, my god
 
The Head Coach at UM will decide which coaches, if any, to retain. Quite frankly, outside of Larry Scott, no coach has earned consideration to remain at UM. It's time to start fresh.

Sitting here pondering who might be kept and I came to Ice. I'm not sure if I would keep him BUT I could make a case:
1. Local recruiting ties are obvious
2. Our backs have performed well despite almost no blocking (Yearby could get 1,000 yards)
3. We have great receiving threats out of the backfield. RB screens are an art for all three parts and it takes practice.
4. The biggest one for me: I couldn't find a lost fumble by our starting backs. That's an incredible stat no matter what
5. Not much depth to work with, so basically doing what he can with what he has

Just wanted some honest thought. Do you keep him or not?
 
Sitting here pondering who might be kept and I came to Ice. I'm not sure if I would keep him BUT I could make a case:
1. Local recruiting ties are obvious
2. Our backs have performed well despite almost no blocking (Yearby could get 1,000 yards)
3. We have great receiving threats out of the backfield. RB screens are an art for all three parts and it takes practice.
4. The biggest one for me: I couldn't find a lost fumble by our starting backs. That's an incredible stat no matter what
5. Not much depth to work with, so basically doing what he can with what he has

Just wanted some honest thought. Do you keep him or not?

I still don't get it. One of Richts strongest assets is his ability to recruit. Our ability to recruit the last 5 years has been subpar yet people still want to keep Coley and Ice to recruit.

Richt is from south fla, played here, and recruited here for FSU and UGA for 25 years. We will be ok without Ice and Coley.
 
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Why are you making this so complicated? Offer him his old job in Ops back, it's not like he will have any better offers.

**** offer KB and Hurlie their old jobs back in Ops too, get some experienced battle tested guys in there. Bama has like 17-18 people in Analyst/Ops roles we can afford to have 6-8 (Baez, Darrow, Joseph, Ice, Hurlie, KB)
 
Coaches I think that might get looks at....
WR - Kevin Beard
TE - Larry Scott
LB - Hurlie Brown
LB - Kareem Brown
DB - Paul Williams

Support Staff-
Recruiting - Jorge Baez
Recruiting - Brooke Wilson (look ole girl up... wow)

On the bubble -
OC - James Coley (would have to probably take a demotion)
SC - Andreu Swansey

Gone -
OL - Ken Kehoe
DC - Mark D'Onofrio
DL - Randy Melvin
QC - 3

*** I don't know ****, and this isn't anything official, just my uneducated opinion.

That's the only part of your post that is accurate.
 
Coaches I think that might get looks at....
WR - Kevin Beard
TE - Larry Scott
LB - Hurlie Brown
LB - Kareem Brown
DB - Paul Williams

Support Staff-
Recruiting - Jorge Baez
Recruiting - Brooke Wilson (look ole girl up... wow)

On the bubble -
OC - James Coley (would have to probably take a demotion)
SC - Andreu Swansey

Gone -
OL - Ken Kehoe
DC - Mark D'Onofrio
DL - Randy Melvin
QC - 3

*** I don't know ****, and this isn't anything official, just my uneducated opinion.

"DB - Paul Williams"??????????

Are you out of your mind!!!!!

I didn't say I thought it would be a good idea, I said I think he may get a look to stay on....

If it was my opinion, I wouldn't keep anyone outside of KB, Scott, and both Browns, and Baez. All the rest would be gone.

IMO Baez is the only must due to recruting. Everyone else is at Richt discretion don't care either way. The Temple coaches should be done.



You don't care to keep Beard? Who has resurrected Stacey, made Scott look like a different receiver, and brought in Cager?

Only persons on the position staff I'd keep are Beard and Scott.

If Richt doesn't want to keep him I don't care. If Richt wants to keep him I don't care.
You can't impose position coaches on the new HC. His choice.
 
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