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Really wanted that dude nowhere near the program.
Definitely not good enough to be the Miami hurricanes DC. Hasn’t called plays and he doesn’t know what he’s doing.Really wanted that dude nowhere near the program.
Keep your rational thoughts to yourself. There’s no place for that on this board.Congrats to both him and Dorsey, but to those saying “good enough for the NFL but not UM”, keep in mind they’re pretty much staying where they are to keep the previous system in place.
Both seem deserving, but regardless of UM not being a professional team, it’s still a lot different to maintain a system in place versus bringing a philosophy and installing it in a different organization.
There’s also the layer of recruiting. It’s entirely possible that they were qualified for the promotions they got, but did not fit the criteria to be a coordinator at UM.
Smart! You’re totally right. All those pro coaches on bamas staff don’t know how to recruit. Having played at the school, selling the pros and being coached by pro coaches (that can prep you for that game) is meaningless to these high level recruits!Congrats to both him and Dorsey, but to those saying “good enough for the NFL but not UM”, keep in mind they’re pretty much staying where they are to keep the previous system in place.
Both seem deserving, but regardless of UM not being a professional team, it’s still a lot different to maintain a system in place versus bringing a philosophy and installing it in a different organization.
There’s also the layer of recruiting. It’s entirely possible that they were qualified for the promotions they got, but did not fit the criteria to be a coordinator at UM.
Really wanted that dude nowhere near the program.
With this thinking we should hire Sean Payton for OC!Congrats to him, hope he cuts his teeth in NFL to earn ability to coach at UM someday.. Him and Dorsey have to start somewhere before they can even interview with us..
LMAOBecause being an NFL coordinator guarantees success at the collegiate level. People think the NFL is some super factory for the development of offenses when in fact college is usually were trends begin and eventually migrate to the NFL if they are successful. Spread offenses, pass happy play-calling, running QB’s. The current meta in the NFL has been going on in college for many years before it showed up on Sundays.
Hurtt stinks! He’s been in the NFL for 8 years, and the only thing he’s good at is getting promoted at every job he takes. Seattle promoted him to DC to keep from ruining their DL even further. No better than a HS coach!I just have to be really honest here: Some of you have no ******* clue about football.
1. Just because someone is hired as a NFL OC or DC does not mean he would do well as a NCAA OC or DC and vice versa. It blows my mind that I even have to say this. There are so many example of this out there...
2. Hurtt was an average to below average assistant in the NFL. The list time he applied to a DC job, he was passed over for Notron Jr., who completely sucked at his job. Carroll is not hiring an elite DC here, he is hiring his guy to save his butt from very likely running Russell Wilson out of town, the best QB Seattle has ever had and probably will have for the next 10-15 years. Seattle fans are going nuts about this hire because everyone knows what Carroll did (again). Instead of trying to change his ideas, he (again) hired someone being supportive of his ideas and his ideas only. Hurtts position group hasnt produced a Pro Bowl or All-Pro player since Michael Bennett in 2017 and that guy was a different cat.
3. Just because someone is being hired as an OC or DC in the NFL does not mean that he is good, let me be absolutely clear about that. The Panthers hired Ben McAdoo, does anyone in here think he should have been hired as the OC for the Miami Hurricanes? Or Jason Garrett, when he was hired by the Giants? Really? Is this the logic now?
I get making that argument for Dorsey, because Dorsey was an elite QB coach both for the Panthers and the Bills, developing Cam Newton into a MVP campaign and Josh Allen from a very likely bust into of the top QBs in pro football (and no, dont even start with "Josh Allen was a good prospect in the first place". He wasnt.). Hurtt was hired as the DL coach by Seattle in 2017 and that group has been unimpressive to downright awful to this day.
The “hot shot” NFL offensive minds are just implementing what’s been used in college for decades.Because being an NFL coordinator guarantees success at the collegiate level. People think the NFL is some super factory for the development of offenses when in fact college is usually were trends begin and eventually migrate to the NFL if they are successful. Spread offenses, pass happy play-calling, running QB’s. The current meta in the NFL has been going on in college for many years before it showed up on Sundays.
You are a ******* idiot. Thanks for confirming.Hurtt stinks! He’s been in the NFL for 8 years, and the only thing he’s good at is getting promoted at every job he takes. Seattle promoted him to DC to keep from ruining their DL even further. No better than a HS coach!
And he’s certainly too terrible and not good enough to coach for the Canes or the college game. Thank God we didn’t hire him
Why do you hate Hurtt and Dorsey so much? Why can’t be happy for two former canes?You are a ******* idiot. Thanks for confirming.