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CJ Bailey needs to come home

CanesAreAble said:
We should always be recruiting guys out of HS, but it also makes sense to bring in proven commodities.

For example, Lincoln Riley hit homeruns with the transfer QBs, then the offense took a step back with Spencer Rattler, who was a 5-star prospect.
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Unless the supply of good transfer QBs dries up (The way there is barely even 1 elite outside WR or DT in the portal per year now) I don't care about HS QBs much because QB hit rate is very low and rolling dice on one or two elite 11 guys is never gonna be better odds than using 100 other programs as a farm system and live training environment for your QB hiring process.

I want to do both ideally but I don't want to sacrifice getting proven QBs in order to improve the recruiting pitch to HS guys, Mario keeps the trenches stacked so any year with a NFL prospect QB should be a legit tier 1 title contender title shot year (Like this year with Beck and the way it should have been last year).

I also am just less confident in ever winning another title with a mediocre game manager so to me if you lock in a mid QB you are locking in a ceiling below national championship with a roster that is probably otherwise good enough to compete.
 
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Im all for getting the best of the best QB in the portal. I will say however, Deron Coleman is truly special. The more I watch this kid, the more impressed I am. I hope he is an EE. Get him in and let him compete!
 
BoxingRobes said:
this is what this era of college football is all about. QBs need to play to get better. Starts matter. Snaps matter. He would have sat here.

Let NCST develop him a little more. He can come home any time and we can get his best play.
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This. If he was sitting on our bench and not getting live reps, you don’t know what you have
 
Brooklyndee said:
No offense to you or anyone else. But this conversation has become redundant. No matter what scenario you play out in y'all's heads WE ARE NOT GOING TO GUARANTEE A STARTING QB JOB TO ANYONE IN THE PORTAL. Not when doing that puts the word out like and dereon recruitments were never done in good faith. If you promise a kid a chance to compete and then bring in someone just so you gaurentee a starters spot than your burning your face and your word nationally.
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So what? No HS quarterback is going to make or break a program unless he's some Vince Young talent, especially in this Portal era.
 
Brooklyndee said:
No offense to you or anyone else. But this conversation has become redundant. No matter what scenario you play out in y'all's heads WE ARE NOT GOING TO GUARANTEE A STARTING QB JOB TO ANYONE IN THE PORTAL. Not when doing that puts the word out like and dereon recruitments were never done in good faith. If you promise a kid a chance to compete and then bring in someone just so you gaurentee a starters spot than your burning your face and your word nationally.
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This, and who is the alleged guarantee starting quarterback going to be?

We were fortunate Cam Ward and Carson Beck passed up the NFL draft for a chance to improve their draft stock. Give Mario and Miami credit for signing them but there is no guarantee there will be anyone with Ward or Beck’s pedigree in the next portal window.

2026 is going to be very interesting but let’s get through 2025 first.

Go Canes!
 
Rellyrell said:
Quite the oxymoron every season.

1. Gas up the HS QB we recruit, championing them as the future of the program while also simultaneously

2. Claiming the next QB of the future plays for a different CFB team.

Some if not most of u guys would’ve made excellent, prototypical Jehovah’s Witnesses w this cognitive dissonance.
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3. End up with someone we've never seriously discussed who turns out to be a rock star.
 
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SinisterCane said:
Both of the high school quarterback development is coming from the smaller schools like Washington state that their quarterbacks was so nice we tried to pluck them twice.
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Speaking of Washington State, 10 for wake with two big plays as a wsu transfer
 
Yeah this is a great match tbh! We could get him for possibly 2 years (1 more likely) He could come back home & team up with Jojo. Then Nickel & Coleman can battle it out! We gotta make it happen, he’s gonna reach his ceiling at NC State
 
Brooklyndee said:
Point is were not going to intentionally **** over like and dereon by bringing in a big name portal QB. We'll get a portal QB that is okay with either a competition or a back ups role and we all know only portal QBs okay with that scenario are the one already in memories situation elsewhere. We prioritize our high school relationships. Portal is complimentary.
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Lol sounds like we’re punting next season then if this is how we’re thinking. That prioritizing relationship **** sounds like we going the cheap route after spending big on cam & beck plus others
 
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CBurrr93 said:
If he’s not from south Florida, we wouldn’t even have a thread about him
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But he is… and regardless of program any player especially QB who leaves and shows promise will be brought up on that teams board.

Especially more so when we took an out of state kid that didn’t show much on tape outside of measurables. This kid was a fake from the jump and maybe helping with JS should have made it that much more easier of a call. Don’t know how Mario didn’t intervene here earlier
 
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