Charlie Strong

[Kevin]

I'd take strong over Davis.

You've passively picked Mario and everybody over Butch and you have an androgynous image of Lane Kiffin as your avatar. Your opinion leaves much to be desired.

thats due in part to Kiffin being my first choice But IMO i think Miami is gonna rush this hire/decision especially after today's game. subsequently leading to this being between Davis or Cristobal. And between those two Id go Cristobal.

Seriously, what team are you a fan of? You seem to want anyone other than the one coach who actually did anything at THE U, of anyhere for that matter. You have a affection for coaches fired for losing. Why is that?

Im just put off by Davis not actively coaching in five years. plus the age. yes, i know Saban is just as old, as that often gets compared too, but everyone handles stress differently. Think Jimmy Johnson in the latter years with the Dolphins. He burnt out and i think the same will happen to Davis. youre just giving these other schools something else to negatively recruit against. **** even Spurrier admitted that. Im fine with the whole rumor of Mario as HCIW but what if Cristobal bolts for another job during that process, youll be stuck repeating this cycle again.

 

[Kevin]

I'd take strong over Davis.

You've passively picked Mario and everybody over Butch and you have an androgynous image of Lane Kiffin as your avatar. Your opinion leaves much to be desired.

thats due in part to Kiffin being my first choice But IMO i think Miami is gonna rush this hire/decision especially after today's game. subsequently leading to this being between Davis or Cristobal. And between those two Id go Cristobal.

And because you want Cristobal is why I'm making fun of the that horrible decisions opinion.

Herman over Butch? Not my choice but I can't complain. It's as promising hire I can ask for.

Fuente over Butch? Still not my first choice but his results speak for themselves and I still can't complain about the hire.

Mario over Butch? There's literally no reason or empirical evidence to back that up and people who feel that way are just throwing nonsense agains the wall for no reason.

Id take BOTH Herman and Fuentes over Mario and Davis. Im with you on that brother. Like I said between mario and davis -- its the age and inactive for awhile with butch that leads me towards Mario.

 

[canesrdynamite]

I was actually expecting there to be something about Iowa State in this thread after how they played today.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

I'd take strong over Davis.

You've passively picked Mario and everybody over Butch and you have an androgynous image of Lane Kiffin as your avatar. Your opinion leaves much to be desired.

thats due in part to Kiffin being my first choice But IMO i think Miami is gonna rush this hire/decision especially after today's game. subsequently leading to this being between Davis or Cristobal. And between those two Id go Cristobal.

Seriously, what team are you a fan of? You seem to want anyone other than the one coach who actually did anything at THE U, of anyhere for that matter. You have a affection for coaches fired for losing. Why is that?

Im just put off by Davis not actively coaching in five years. plus the age. yes, i know Saban is just as old, as that often gets compared too, but everyone handles stress differently. Think Jimmy Johnson in the latter years with the Dolphins. He burnt out and i think the same will happen to Davis. youre just giving these other schools something else to negatively recruit against. **** even Spurrier admitted that. Im fine with the whole rumor of Mario as HCIW but what if Cristobal bolts for another job during that process, youll be stuck repeating this cycle again.

1. Bothered by Butch not coaching for so long? Fair enough. It doesn't bother me but I can't fault somebody for feeling that way.

2. Age is just a number. Bill Snyder is at least 426 years old. **** Vermeil had been out of football in general for 15 years but came back to win a Super Bowl at 63.

3. Everybody does handle stress differently. Butch has had time to sit back and sip pina coladas so I don't exactly have to fear that he's going to need a pacemaker anytime soon. His hunger and energy is pretty self-evident.

4. Jimmy said in the A Football Life special on him that the reason he quit was his mother died and he was missing out on his family. But as far as burnout goes, do you think Butch is going to burn out jogging onto Greentree? Give the man a couple years before you're trying to put him out to pasture.

5. Recruiting is the one aspect that the consensus opinion on Butch is the area not to worry about at all. People can show pictures of Butch doing coke as negative recruitment and I doubt it would make much of a difference.

6. Spurrier went and said, "I might retire tomorrow or in a year. Who knows? Right guys? He he he." That was just asking to be criticized on.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

I'd take strong over Davis.

You've passively picked Mario and everybody over Butch and you have an androgynous image of Lane Kiffin as your avatar. Your opinion leaves much to be desired.

thats due in part to Kiffin being my first choice But IMO i think Miami is gonna rush this hire/decision especially after today's game. subsequently leading to this being between Davis or Cristobal. And between those two Id go Cristobal.

And because you want Cristobal is why I'm making fun of the that horrible decisions opinion.

Herman over Butch? Not my choice but I can't complain. It's as promising hire I can ask for.

Fuente over Butch? Still not my first choice but his results speak for themselves and I still can't complain about the hire.

Mario over Butch? There's literally no reason or empirical evidence to back that up and people who feel that way are just throwing nonsense agains the wall for no reason.

Id take BOTH Herman and Fuentes over Mario and Davis. Im with you on that brother. Like I said between mario and davis -- its the age and inactive for awhile with butch that leads me towards Mario.

Fair enough. At least you're not a zealot for Mario.

Butch's resume is a thousand times that of Mario. If all Mario has going for him is that he's 45 and not 63 that's a rough non-football reason to give him the edge. But I respect your having a different opinion.

 

[maurice3p]

I'd take strong over Davis.

Me too.

 

[bobshrum]

a bald randy shannon

 

[Andrew]

Charlie Strong is terrible. At this point I would take Cristobal over Strong and he would probably be terrible as well.

 

[Tad Footeball]

Charlie Strong is terrible. At this point I would take Cristobal over Strong and he would probably be terrible as well.

The saddest part of all of this is I can actually see those two names as the finalists and these effing clowns sitting around a conference room table debating which is better.....after listening to the search firm's recommendation of both as "homerun hires" via speakerphone.

 

[CaneInTheBrain]

STRONG > FUENTE

 

[maurice3p]

https://youtu.be/yk7VLi5taWw

 

[TheMatador]

I'd take strong over Davis.

You've passively picked Mario and everybody over Butch and you have an androgynous image of Lane Kiffin as your avatar. Your opinion leaves much to be desired.

thats due in part to Kiffin being my first choice But IMO i think Miami is gonna rush this hire/decision especially after today's game. subsequently leading to this being between Davis or Cristobal. And between those two Id go Cristobal.

Seriously, what team are you a fan of? You seem to want anyone other than the one coach who actually did anything at THE U, of anyhere for that matter. You have a affection for coaches fired for losing. Why is that?

Qualifies for dumb poster comment of the week, if not all of November. Only coach who did anything? yeah, forget Howard, Jimmy....even Dennis Erickson won two NC's. What did Butch win? True, he built the team that won it all in 2001, but with his mediocre game day coaching, he might have managed to ***** up one of those wins, costing us the 2001 championship.

 

[TheMatador]

You've passively picked Mario and everybody over Butch and you have an androgynous image of Lane Kiffin as your avatar. Your opinion leaves much to be desired.

thats due in part to Kiffin being my first choice But IMO i think Miami is gonna rush this hire/decision especially after today's game. subsequently leading to this being between Davis or Cristobal. And between those two Id go Cristobal.

Seriously, what team are you a fan of? You seem to want anyone other than the one coach who actually did anything at THE U, of anyhere for that matter. You have a affection for coaches fired for losing. Why is that?

Im just put off by Davis not actively coaching in five years. plus the age. yes, i know Saban is just as old, as that often gets compared too, but everyone handles stress differently. Think Jimmy Johnson in the latter years with the Dolphins. He burnt out and i think the same will happen to Davis. youre just giving these other schools something else to negatively recruit against. **** even Spurrier admitted that. Im fine with the whole rumor of Mario as HCIW but what if Cristobal bolts for another job during that process, youll be stuck repeating this cycle again.

1. Bothered by Butch not coaching for so long? Fair enough. It doesn't bother me but I can't fault somebody for feeling that way.

2. Age is just a number. Bill Snyder is at least 426 years old. **** Vermeil had been out of football in general for 15 years but came back to win a Super Bowl at 63.

3. Everybody does handle stress differently. Butch has had time to sit back and sip pina coladas so I don't exactly have to fear that he's going to need a pacemaker anytime soon. His hunger and energy is pretty self-evident.

4. Jimmy said in the A Football Life special on him that the reason he quit was his mother died and he was missing out on his family. But as far as burnout goes, do you think Butch is going to burn out jogging onto Greentree? Give the man a couple years before you're trying to put him out to pasture.

5. Recruiting is the one aspect that the consensus opinion on Butch is the area not to worry about at all. People can show pictures of Butch doing coke as negative recruitment and I doubt it would make much of a difference.

6. Spurrier went and said, "I might retire tomorrow or in a year. Who knows? Right guys? He he he." That was just asking to be criticized on.

Then there was Bud Wilkinson who coached football powerhouses at Oklahoma, left coaching, then came back and tried it in the pros, and fell on his face. Or Joe Gibbs who left to race cars, came back, and proved you can't go home again.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

thats due in part to Kiffin being my first choice But IMO i think Miami is gonna rush this hire/decision especially after today's game. subsequently leading to this being between Davis or Cristobal. And between those two Id go Cristobal.

Seriously, what team are you a fan of? You seem to want anyone other than the one coach who actually did anything at THE U, of anyhere for that matter. You have a affection for coaches fired for losing. Why is that?

Im just put off by Davis not actively coaching in five years. plus the age. yes, i know Saban is just as old, as that often gets compared too, but everyone handles stress differently. Think Jimmy Johnson in the latter years with the Dolphins. He burnt out and i think the same will happen to Davis. youre just giving these other schools something else to negatively recruit against. **** even Spurrier admitted that. Im fine with the whole rumor of Mario as HCIW but what if Cristobal bolts for another job during that process, youll be stuck repeating this cycle again.

1. Bothered by Butch not coaching for so long? Fair enough. It doesn't bother me but I can't fault somebody for feeling that way.

2. Age is just a number. Bill Snyder is at least 426 years old. **** Vermeil had been out of football in general for 15 years but came back to win a Super Bowl at 63.

3. Everybody does handle stress differently. Butch has had time to sit back and sip pina coladas so I don't exactly have to fear that he's going to need a pacemaker anytime soon. His hunger and energy is pretty self-evident.

4. Jimmy said in the A Football Life special on him that the reason he quit was his mother died and he was missing out on his family. But as far as burnout goes, do you think Butch is going to burn out jogging onto Greentree? Give the man a couple years before you're trying to put him out to pasture.

5. Recruiting is the one aspect that the consensus opinion on Butch is the area not to worry about at all. People can show pictures of Butch doing coke as negative recruitment and I doubt it would make much of a difference.

6. Spurrier went and said, "I might retire tomorrow or in a year. Who knows? Right guys? He he he." That was just asking to be criticized on.

Then there was Bud Wilkinson who coached football powerhouses at Oklahoma, left coaching, then came back and tried it in the pros, and fell on his face. Or Joe Gibbs who left to race cars, came back, and proved you can't go home again.

1. That same Bud Wilkinson who was out of football and its entirety and tried running for Senate for 15 years and then actually went up to a higher level of football (who made that decision) than he had ever coached before and was fired because he didn't want to play QB Steve Pacaskfnajsdnfisnf or however you spell that guys name.

2. That same Joe Gibbs's isn't exactly a failure in his second go around. He was playing with car suspensions and had nothing to do with football for 11 years and them came back to coach for four years and made the playoffs twice when he was back which was one more time than the Redskins made the playoffs in the 11 years he wasn't there.

Not exactly an identical situation to being out of coaching for 5 years but still having never left the sport like Butch.

That being said, Butch, Herman, or bust.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

https://youtu.be/yk7VLi5taWw

Pains me to say it but smacking around an Al Golden coached Miami team sans both Duke Johnson and Phillip Dorsett is hardly something to highlight on your resume.

 

[Phillyc55]

The racial bias is so huge i never wanted to believe it but so many people have this agenda

 

[canesrdynamite]

The racial bias is so huge i never wanted to believe it but so many people have this agenda

I dunno man, I'm not seein it.

If Strong was still killin it at Louisville and people were down on him anyway then maybe, but after how bad he's been at Texas?

I'm gonna use Herman as an example since he was also a coordinator on a champ team before he got his head coaching gig. If Herman were to go to a big time program and fall on his face, I think people would have the same reaction. Some would think he was still great. Others would say **** no. The big differences between Herman and Strong to me are Herman has only coached 9 games but he's been able to win without an NFL caliber qb, and his choice of DC seems to be more solid so far than Strong's OCs.

They may or may not end up at the same level, but right now Herman is on the way up and Strong is on the way down.

 

[dedostheibis]

Anybody but mario and strong. Strong is a joke

 

[Tad Footeball]

The racial bias is so huge i never wanted to believe it but so many people have this agenda

You talking the current racial bias FOR Strong? Because if you're blaming that as a motivating factor against him now then that's a joke. It all has to do with him being exposed at Texas. Even if his Louisville stint can be made to be less impressive than publicly portrayed upon actual review, the sentiment about hiring him would be 180 degrees different with a ton of people if we were looking at the guy Texas hired 2 years ago. The little race card nonsense falls apart too when most sane people that are against him are also against Cristobal and Schiano. It's called a corchism not racism.

 

[Consigliere]

Another shellacking for Charlie Weak Sauce. I'm becoming increasingly worried that not only will he be available but that he already knows he's done in Austin- thus allowing for serious contact already from us. It'd all work out a little too cute for Texas too. Strong gets to resign but for another job and they don't have to take the (unwarranted) criticism for having canned his overrated ***.

He has shown himself as an incompetent moron at the highest level. So some of our fan base is wiling to bypass the NOW and name him our next coach. He is awful.

But hey, one man's trash is another man's treasure.