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Charlie Strong

Tad Footeball said:
Phillyc55 said:
The racial bias is so huge i never wanted to believe it but so many people have this agenda
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You talking the current racial bias FOR Strong? Because if you're blaming that as a motivating factor against him now then that's a joke. It all has to do with him being exposed at Texas. Even if his Louisville stint can be made to be less impressive than publicly portrayed upon actual review, the sentiment about hiring him would be 180 degrees different with a ton of people if we were looking at the guy Texas hired 2 years ago. The little race card nonsense falls apart too when most sane people that are against him are also against Cristobal and Schiano. It's called a corchism not racism.
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He sucks because he sucks. It has nothing to do with race. In fact, why is this **** bringing race into this thread.
 
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Black head coach that has actually won a BCS bowl game gets hated on this site bc he doesn't have Texas back to playing like the Vince Young era in year two.

While white night Golden I'm sure OP was defending him up until his 4th season.

/ hmmmm
 
Tad Footeball said:
Andrew said:
Charlie Strong is terrible. At this point I would take Cristobal over Strong and he would probably be terrible as well.
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The saddest part of all of this is I can actually see those two names as the finalists and these effing clowns sitting around a conference room table debating which is better.....after listening to the search firm's recommendation of both as "homerun hires" via speakerphone.
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I just can't take cristobal serious as I was in college the time he was a hc at fiu and my school completely owned him every year (fau) with a coach who smoked cigars and didn't know half his teams name in schnellenberger. Dude was owned by us and had the most talent in the sun belt by far.

But I can see these idiots with no clue on sports being exploited again by a committee or drunk Bernie Kosar.
 
Dirty Sprite said:
Black head coach that has actually won a BCS bowl game gets hated on this site bc he doesn't have Texas back to playing like the Vince Young era in year two.

While white night Golden I'm sure OP was defending him up until his 4th season.

/ hmmmm
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Who said anything about the Vince Young era?

Texas is playing like a Golden-led UM team. Do you want to continue at that level?
 
TedHendricksOffspring said:
TheMatador said:
TedHendricksOffspring said:
Kevin said:
Gatorhater said:
Seriously, what team are you a fan of? You seem to want anyone other than the one coach who actually did anything at THE U, of anyhere for that matter. You have a affection for coaches fired for losing. Why is that?
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Im just put off by Davis not actively coaching in five years. plus the age. yes, i know Saban is just as old, as that often gets compared too, but everyone handles stress differently. Think Jimmy Johnson in the latter years with the Dolphins. He burnt out and i think the same will happen to Davis. youre just giving these other schools something else to negatively recruit against. **** even Spurrier admitted that. Im fine with the whole rumor of Mario as HCIW but what if Cristobal bolts for another job during that process, youll be stuck repeating this cycle again.
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1. Bothered by Butch not coaching for so long? Fair enough. It doesn't bother me but I can't fault somebody for feeling that way.

2. Age is just a number. Bill Snyder is at least 426 years old. **** Vermeil had been out of football in general for 15 years but came back to win a Super Bowl at 63.

3. Everybody does handle stress differently. Butch has had time to sit back and sip pina coladas so I don't exactly have to fear that he's going to need a pacemaker anytime soon. His hunger and energy is pretty self-evident.

4. Jimmy said in the A Football Life special on him that the reason he quit was his mother died and he was missing out on his family. But as far as burnout goes, do you think Butch is going to burn out jogging onto Greentree? Give the man a couple years before you're trying to put him out to pasture.

5. Recruiting is the one aspect that the consensus opinion on Butch is the area not to worry about at all. People can show pictures of Butch doing coke as negative recruitment and I doubt it would make much of a difference.

6. Spurrier went and said, "I might retire tomorrow or in a year. Who knows? Right guys? He he he." That was just asking to be criticized on.
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Then there was Bud Wilkinson who coached football powerhouses at Oklahoma, left coaching, then came back and tried it in the pros, and fell on his face. Or Joe Gibbs who left to race cars, came back, and proved you can't go home again.
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1. That same Bud Wilkinson who was out of football and its entirety and tried running for Senate for 15 years and then actually went up to a higher level of football (who made that decision) than he had ever coached before and was fired because he didn't want to play QB Steve Pacaskfnajsdnfisnf or however you spell that guys name.

2. That same Joe Gibbs's isn't exactly a failure in his second go around. He was playing with car suspensions and had nothing to do with football for 11 years and them came back to coach for four years and made the playoffs twice when he was back which was one more time than the Redskins made the playoffs in the 11 years he wasn't there.

Not exactly an identical situation to being out of coaching for 5 years but still having never left the sport like Butch.

That being said, Butch, Herman, or bust.
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Butch did not retire or quit football. He was fired as scapegoat by a university that had been cheating academically for years before to support admission policies and political correctness needs, oh and a few football players took advantage of it TOO. Butch is not returning to the scene of former glory hoping for a rosy homecoming. We flew a frigging banner to fire him and he quit to go to NFL without getting his NC. Butch is coming back to fill an empty spot on his mantle and in his heart. And he is also coming back to rebuild a program that gave him everything. He is seeking to make amends not relive something. If this was JJ developing sudden recurring seasickness and deciding to come back because he could fish any more, then all these comparison would make sense. Butch doesn't fit the profile.
 
Dirty Sprite said:
Black head coach that has actually won a BCS bowl game gets hated on this site bc he doesn't have Texas back to playing like the Vince Young era in year two.

While white night Golden I'm sure OP was defending him up until his 4th season.

/ hmmmm
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Nobody expects Texas to win big right now but getting blown out by Iowa State, getting embarrassed by TCU, and having a 4-6 record isn't acceptable. Has nothing to do with being black my friend. We wanted him two years ago and you might be surprised to know that he was black back then too. Only difference is he has since been proved to be a bust. He hasn't been the same without Clint Hurtt's illegal recruiting.
 
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Dirty Sprite said:
Black head coach that has actually won a BCS bowl game gets hated on this site bc he doesn't have Texas back to playing like the Vince Young era in year two.

While white night Golden I'm sure OP was defending him up until his 4th season.

/ hmmmm
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Poster makes a refetence to Strong not having them playing like the Vince Young era when he easily could have said they're not even playing close to the freakin David Ash or Case McCoy era. Strawman much? Hmmmmm.
 
drifters1234 said:
Dirty Sprite said:
Black head coach that has actually won a BCS bowl game gets hated on this site bc he doesn't have Texas back to playing like the Vince Young era in year two.

While white night Golden I'm sure OP was defending him up until his 4th season.

/ hmmmm
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Who said anything about the Vince Young era?

Texas is playing like a Golden-led UM team. Do you want to continue at that level?
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Yes when it comes to Charlie Strong. Louisville was only a 6 or 7 win team his 1st two years. And then they were one of the more dominant teams in cfb his last two. Strong has a plan and knows how to make it happen. Let's not act like he's the only coach that struggled through ugly losses while building back up a down program.
 
Dirty Sprite said:
drifters1234 said:
Dirty Sprite said:
Black head coach that has actually won a BCS bowl game gets hated on this site bc he doesn't have Texas back to playing like the Vince Young era in year two.

While white night Golden I'm sure OP was defending him up until his 4th season.

/ hmmmm
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Who said anything about the Vince Young era?

Texas is playing like a Golden-led UM team. Do you want to continue at that level?
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Yes when it comes to Charlie Strong. Louisville was only a 6 or 7 win team his 1st two years. And then they were one of the more dominant teams in cfb his last two. Strong has a plan and knows how to make it happen. Let's not act like he's the only coach that struggled through ugly losses while building back up a down program.
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Building isn't a synonym to regressing. All he's doing is exacerbating the destruction that Mack Brown allowed to start.
 
Dirty Sprite said:
drifters1234 said:
Dirty Sprite said:
Black head coach that has actually won a BCS bowl game gets hated on this site bc he doesn't have Texas back to playing like the Vince Young era in year two.

While white night Golden I'm sure OP was defending him up until his 4th season.

/ hmmmm
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Who said anything about the Vince Young era?

Texas is playing like a Golden-led UM team. Do you want to continue at that level?
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Yes when it comes to Charlie Strong. Louisville was only a 6 or 7 win team his 1st two years. And then they were one of the more dominant teams in cfb his last two. Strong has a plan and knows how to make it happen. Let's not act like he's the only coach that struggled through ugly losses while building back up a down program.
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Or.... possibly not having Clint Hurtt's illegal recruiting and *** parties going on at the Ville' is hurting him? Maybe he is being exposed on his own?
 
Only a racist woukd think we dont want Strong b/c he is black. He was my first choice to start the yr but 2 yrs of bombing badly is enough for me. BBB
 
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It will be interesting to see the Strong Slurpers continue to blow a guy who is REGRESSING in year 2. He would need to win out (beating Baylor) to improve on last years marvelous season. 2 losing seasons in a row, that is an achievement...I suppose.
 
KevinCaneFace said:
Dirty Sprite said:
Black head coach that has actually won a BCS bowl game gets hated on this site bc he doesn't have Texas back to playing like the Vince Young era in year two.

While white night Golden I'm sure OP was defending him up until his 4th season.

/ hmmmm
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Nobody expects Texas to win big right now but getting blown out by Iowa State, getting embarrassed by TCU, and having a 4-6 record isn't acceptable. Has nothing to do with being black my friend. We wanted him two years ago and you might be surprised to know that he was black back then too. Only difference is he has since been proved to be a bust. He hasn't been the same without Clint Hurtt's illegal recruiting.
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And don't forget his own words...."We were sitting here at 3-5 and I said we should not be pleased with where we are. At the University of Texas, that will never happen that, with our [track] record, we go out and get five losses. We're not comfortable with that."

Congrats Charlie, you have done it twice
 
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