Chad Thomas Gettin' Big

[GeorgiaCane1381]

looks like someone shopped Chad's head onto someone else's body.

Lol, his head and neck are 5 shades darker than the rest of his body.

Being in the sun with a t shirt on does that

that and the use of a filter from his cell phone lol.

 

[NorthFlaCane]

When I was in HS we never had weight rooms like that. Of course, that was a long time ago. A lot of HS teams didn't even lift back then. There was a belief that was held by a lot in athletics, including a lot of coaches, that lifting too much, getting too bulked up, made you "muscle-bound" and slowed you up. A friend who played on the Canes in the late '60's--and we had some decent teams back then, including one top 10 finish--told me that people only lifted if they wanted to. Nothing mandatory about it, and it was not expected. I don't even know if the U had a strength coach in the '60's.

I'm not sure the U has one now /rimshot

 

[NY Shyne]

Smells like *** *** in here

 

[AUcane]

kept saying that this kid isnt a JACK, he is going to be a straight DE even in our scheme. He will be 255-60 by the time Fall rolls around and will be 280+ by the time he leaves......

No he won't. He'll need to get to 300lbs eventually. 280 isn't enough weight on a 6'5" frame for 3-4 DE.

He's an edge player and if we use him in any other way then we're retarded.

You really want him at 300? I have to disagree

No, I don't. I'm saying if he's gonna play 3-4 DE then he needs to be near 300lbs. At 6'5", 280 isn't heavy enough for 3-4 DE. And that's not even his skill-set.

He could be a legit 1st round talent at 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE. If developed right he'd leave here at 6'5" 265lbs with speed and quick-twitch.

If we're trying to fatten him up and have him play 3-4 DE then we might as well forget about him contributing for the next 2 years. He's gonna have to redshirt and move in with Jelani Hamilton.

For a 3-4 college DE, 280 is fine, imo.

 

[Cash]

You don't need weight to set the edge, you need good technique. He already has speed and now get his technique solid. ***** all that weight gain, he doesn't need it. If he naturally bulks to 265 then great but I don't see him at 280+ ever.

 

[Coach Macho]

kept saying that this kid isnt a JACK, he is going to be a straight DE even in our scheme. He will be 255-60 by the time Fall rolls around and will be 280+ by the time he leaves......

No he won't. He'll need to get to 300lbs eventually. 280 isn't enough weight on a 6'5" frame for 3-4 DE.

He's an edge player and if we use him in any other way then we're retarded.

You really want him at 300? I have to disagree

No, I don't. I'm saying if he's gonna play 3-4 DE then he needs to be near 300lbs. At 6'5", 280 isn't heavy enough for 3-4 DE. And that's not even his skill-set.

He could be a legit 1st round talent at 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE. If developed right he'd leave here at 6'5" 265lbs with speed and quick-twitch.

If we're trying to fatten him up and have him play 3-4 DE then we might as well forget about him contributing for the next 2 years. He's gonna have to redshirt and move in with Jelani Hamilton.

For a 3-4 college DE, 280 is fine, imo.

OK. So let's sit around and wait two years or more for one of our best recruits to contribute.

And i don't think 280 is fine. At 6'5" he needs to be heavier than that. His skill-set also doesn't translate well to 3-4 DE at all.

 

[TheUuuuu]

No he won't. He'll need to get to 300lbs eventually. 280 isn't enough weight on a 6'5" frame for 3-4 DE.

He's an edge player and if we use him in any other way then we're retarded.

You really want him at 300? I have to disagree

No, I don't. I'm saying if he's gonna play 3-4 DE then he needs to be near 300lbs. At 6'5", 280 isn't heavy enough for 3-4 DE. And that's not even his skill-set.

He could be a legit 1st round talent at 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE. If developed right he'd leave here at 6'5" 265lbs with speed and quick-twitch.

If we're trying to fatten him up and have him play 3-4 DE then we might as well forget about him contributing for the next 2 years. He's gonna have to redshirt and move in with Jelani Hamilton.

For a 3-4 college DE, 280 is fine, imo.

OK. So let's sit around and wait two years or more for one of our best recruits to contribute.

And i don't think 280 is fine. At 6'5" he needs to be heavier than that. His skill-set also doesn't translate well to 3-4 DE at all.

320lbs or gtfo.

 

[NorthFlaCane]

No he won't. He'll need to get to 300lbs eventually. 280 isn't enough weight on a 6'5" frame for 3-4 DE.

He's an edge player and if we use him in any other way then we're retarded.

You really want him at 300? I have to disagree

No, I don't. I'm saying if he's gonna play 3-4 DE then he needs to be near 300lbs. At 6'5", 280 isn't heavy enough for 3-4 DE. And that's not even his skill-set.

He could be a legit 1st round talent at 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE. If developed right he'd leave here at 6'5" 265lbs with speed and quick-twitch.

If we're trying to fatten him up and have him play 3-4 DE then we might as well forget about him contributing for the next 2 years. He's gonna have to redshirt and move in with Jelani Hamilton.

For a 3-4 college DE, 280 is fine, imo.

OK. So let's sit around and wait two years or more for one of our best recruits to contribute.

And i don't think 280 is fine. At 6'5" he needs to be heavier than that. His skill-set also doesn't translate well to 3-4 DE at all.

His versatility is what makes him so valuable. He shouldn't be a full time 3-4 end, but he can do that for a down. He can definitely play end in a 4-3. He can play a down at tackle too, or outside linebacker. I think full time he has to play end in a 4-3, or a hybrid spot in a 3-4, but he can line up anywhere and make plays and not be a liability.

 

[Coach Macho]

kept saying that this kid isnt a JACK, he is going to be a straight DE even in our scheme. He will be 255-60 by the time Fall rolls around and will be 280+ by the time he leaves......

No he won't. He'll need to get to 300lbs eventually. 280 isn't enough weight on a 6'5" frame for 3-4 DE.

He's an edge player and if we use him in any other way then we're retarded.

You really want him at 300? I have to disagree

No, I don't. I'm saying if he's gonna play 3-4 DE then he needs to be near 300lbs. At 6'5", 280 isn't heavy enough for 3-4 DE. And that's not even his skill-set.

He could be a legit 1st round talent at 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE. If developed right he'd leave here at 6'5" 265lbs with speed and quick-twitch.

If we're trying to fatten him up and have him play 3-4 DE then we might as well forget about him contributing for the next 2 years. He's gonna have to redshirt and move in with Jelani Hamilton.

For a 3-4 college DE, 280 is fine, imo.

You really want him at 300? I have to disagree

No, I don't. I'm saying if he's gonna play 3-4 DE then he needs to be near 300lbs. At 6'5", 280 isn't heavy enough for 3-4 DE. And that's not even his skill-set.

He could be a legit 1st round talent at 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE. If developed right he'd leave here at 6'5" 265lbs with speed and quick-twitch.

If we're trying to fatten him up and have him play 3-4 DE then we might as well forget about him contributing for the next 2 years. He's gonna have to redshirt and move in with Jelani Hamilton.

For a 3-4 college DE, 280 is fine, imo.

OK. So let's sit around and wait two years or more for one of our best recruits to contribute.

And i don't think 280 is fine. At 6'5" he needs to be heavier than that. His skill-set also doesn't translate well to 3-4 DE at all.

His versatility is what makes him so valuable. He shouldn't be a full time 3-4 end, but he can do that for a down. He can definitely play end in a 4-3. He can play a down at tackle too, or outside linebacker. I think full time he has to play end in a 4-3, or a hybrid spot in a 3-4, but he can line up anywhere and make plays and not be a liability.

I disagree. I think he'd get his *** kicked if he had to play on the interior. Matter of fact, i heard he struggled at DT when Booker-T played legit linemen.

Regardless, the weight that he would gain would limit him to a certain position. You named like four different positions. Depending on what his weight is, he can only play a couple of positions. If he stays in the 240-265 range then he's a 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLB and you can't line him up on the interior cause he'd be a liability, so that means no 3-4 DE or 4-3 DT. If he gets to 280+ then you can line him up at 3-4 DE or 4-3 DT but you can forget about him being a terror at 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE.

Would you rather him be outstanding at one position or mediocre at a bunch of positions?

And you really want a player learning 4 different positions?

And how long do we have to wait for him to contribute? He ain't playing 4 different positions at only 245-265 pounds, sorry.

 

[NorthFlaCane]

I'm not talking about playing every snap on the interior, I'm talking about being versatile enough to move around to keep the offense off balance.

 

[tampatony21]

Clowney was 6-6 265 at the combine. Not saying Chad is the same type of player, but size wise he should be similar. I think that's where we should want him to be.

 

[AUcane]

No he won't. He'll need to get to 300lbs eventually. 280 isn't enough weight on a 6'5" frame for 3-4 DE.

He's an edge player and if we use him in any other way then we're retarded.

You really want him at 300? I have to disagree

No, I don't. I'm saying if he's gonna play 3-4 DE then he needs to be near 300lbs. At 6'5", 280 isn't heavy enough for 3-4 DE. And that's not even his skill-set.

He could be a legit 1st round talent at 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE. If developed right he'd leave here at 6'5" 265lbs with speed and quick-twitch.

If we're trying to fatten him up and have him play 3-4 DE then we might as well forget about him contributing for the next 2 years. He's gonna have to redshirt and move in with Jelani Hamilton.

For a 3-4 college DE, 280 is fine, imo.

OK. So let's sit around and wait two years or more for one of our best recruits to contribute.

And i don't think 280 is fine. At 6'5" he needs to be heavier than that. His skill-set also doesn't translate well to 3-4 DE at all.

I'm not disagreeing with you but you're making different arguements. I was just speaking in general, not specifically within our scheme.

With all these guys like AQM, McCord, Thomas, Harris, I just wish already that the staff would turn to a 4-3 and use these guys with a hand in the ground. FSU depends heavily on 240-260 pound speed deamon rushers in their base 4-3. They have them every year going back to the boulware/wislon days.

 

[Canesfan1899]

Him and Quan are going to be terrifying. Add in guys like Trent Harris, McCord, Mike Smith. Honestly our pass rush was much improved last year (not saying much, it also didnt last) but the guys on our roster aren't the types of pass rushers like we are bringing in. There is elite pass rush skill with these guys.

Am I the only one that wants to see these guys in a 4-3.

 

[Jassid82]

Him and Quan are going to be terrifying. Add in guys like Trent Harris, McCord, Mike Smith. Honestly our pass rush was much improved last year (not saying much, it also didnt last) but the guys on our roster aren't the types of pass rushers like we are bringing in. There is elite pass rush skill with these guys.

Am I the only one that wants to see these guys in a 4-3.

Actually IMO the part that REALLY sucks is that most of these kids wouldnt even fit in a 4-3 scheme. Esp THarris and MSmith. Who would be considered tweeners in a 4-3. If they put on too much weight to be DEs they would lose their edge speed. If they became standup LBs I fear they would turn into Willie Williams. (deer in headlights when asked to take his hand off the ground.) Kinda like Marcus Robinson. Pure tweener. He would have been a terror as a 3-4 OLB if he wanted it bad enough and was able to learn under a good defensive coach for 4 years.

Now CThomas and DJackson could slide right over and be 4-3 DEs and be studs.

 

[AUcane]

Him and Quan are going to be terrifying. Add in guys like Trent Harris, McCord, Mike Smith. Honestly our pass rush was much improved last year (not saying much, it also didnt last) but the guys on our roster aren't the types of pass rushers like we are bringing in. There is elite pass rush skill with these guys.

Am I the only one that wants to see these guys in a 4-3.

No, you're not. These kids are straight hand in the ground upfield rushers. Let's stop limiting them.

 

[LuCane]

Reference this pic two years from now because it's gonna be hilarious. After hearing him and Jackson talk about push-ups multiple times as a way they planned to train and get bigger before arriving here, when Tho,as steps into a real weight room, he's gonna explode.

I think he's going to end up looking and playing like JPP by the time he leaves here.

This is what I came to this thread to write. The guy was supposedly doing "a lot of pushups." On a big frame. As a 17 year old. He's going to be a ******* monster.

 

[NorthFlaCane]

Reference this pic two years from now because it's gonna be hilarious. After hearing him and Jackson talk about push-ups multiple times as a way they planned to train and get bigger before arriving here, when Tho,as steps into a real weight room, he's gonna explode.

I think he's going to end up looking and playing like JPP by the time he leaves here.

This is what I came to this thread to write. The guy was supposedly doing "a lot of pushups." On a big frame. As a 17 year old. He's going to be a ******* monster.

I see plenty of weights in that picture. Why isn't their plans to use those weights?

 

[LuCane]

Reference this pic two years from now because it's gonna be hilarious. After hearing him and Jackson talk about push-ups multiple times as a way they planned to train and get bigger before arriving here, when Tho,as steps into a real weight room, he's gonna explode.

I think he's going to end up looking and playing like JPP by the time he leaves here.

This is what I came to this thread to write. The guy was supposedly doing "a lot of pushups." On a big frame. As a 17 year old. He's going to be a ******* monster.

I see plenty of weights in that picture. Why isn't their plans to use those weights?

No, I think it was an old quote from him. Saying he had been working out by doing "a lot of pushups."

 

[Canesfan1899]

Reference this pic two years from now because it's gonna be hilarious. After hearing him and Jackson talk about push-ups multiple times as a way they planned to train and get bigger before arriving here, when Tho,as steps into a real weight room, he's gonna explode.

I think he's going to end up looking and playing like JPP by the time he leaves here.

This is what I came to this thread to write. The guy was supposedly doing "a lot of pushups." On a big frame. As a 17 year old. He's going to be a ******* monster.

Where do you see him playing, DE or OLB?

 

[JHallCanes]

Reference this pic two years from now because it's gonna be hilarious. After hearing him and Jackson talk about push-ups multiple times as a way they planned to train and get bigger before arriving here, when Tho,as steps into a real weight room, he's gonna explode.

I think he's going to end up looking and playing like JPP by the time he leaves here.

This is what I came to this thread to write. The guy was supposedly doing "a lot of pushups." On a big frame. As a 17 year old. He's going to be a ******* monster.

I see plenty of weights in that picture. Why isn't their plans to use those weights?

No, I think it was an old quote from him. Saying he had been working out by doing "a lot of pushups."

Remember, this is what pushups did to one of the top rated OL in the country

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x11pz5a_the-opening-dl-chad-thomas_sport