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Chad Thomas at SDE

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I think this is the best move for both Chad and this team. He adds much needed pass rush and athletic ability to the position. I hated watching Chick there on 1st and 2nd downs last season knowing that with him in there QB pressure would be very limited. Other teams also picked up and this and simply picked this team apart in the passing game on 1st and 2nd downs.

Chad has also played a lot of DT in his career so he understands how to play inside. Many think he is only a edge player, but I see a very versatile kid who can get to the QB from anywhere on the field. He is a man child who is 6'5 255 and has states several times that his weight training program was push ups lol. Although he is a dominate force he is still very under developed, this kid could be 280 and still very explosive. In no way will this be anything like the chick situation.

With Chad there 2015 depth will not be an issue after Chick graduates.
 
Hstokes1447 said:
He is currently listed on the depth chart behind Chick and Ufomba Kamalu. What do you guys think about Chad at SDE in this system?

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I think they'd be crazy to want our five-star potential difference maker to bulk up to 280-285 in a 3-4 defense, which is what he'd have to weigh to fill that role in the system. Both Kamalu and Chickillo are in the low-mid 280s. I feel it would be a waste of a talent of his caliber.

Thomas is listed at 255 right now. Ideally he'll end up in the 260-265 pound range and be used correctly if we're going to remain stubborn about sticking with a 3-4.
 
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I've never heard of a kid who enters college at 255 graduate in the 260s. Chad is going to be 275+ whether he wants to or not. He seems to me to be a prototype SDE. Where else would we put him?
 
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Been on campus a week. May depth chart. Fans crying already.

Offseason or bad schtick? Either way get you head out of your *** and relax.

99 days til football. 99 problems, but Chad Thomas ain't one.
 
chad isnt no **** 255. they boost a lot of guys weight up on the depth chart and chad prolly bout 240-245. saban was recruiting chad to be a 3-4 olb and golden wants him to be a 3-4 de. booker t coaches said last year they think the max weight chad will be able to carry is 260-265.
 
I keep telling people Chad is not 255 "right now" but maybe if Pete says he's not 255 then the groupies will believe it.
 
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Hstokes1447 said:
Canesfan1899 said:
We will waste his talent at sde eating up blocks. Let him feast on qbs for Christ sake.
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He can still feast on QB's at SDE
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He would have to two gap the tackle. Then recognize the play is a pass. Then go from working the entire man, to half a man. Then use a pass rush technique. Then he can get the sack. This chain is forced by the scheme. It negates athleticism because of the transition from two gapping to pass rushing. A long and strong guy is more effective here. He is behind Kamalu in length and strength. He is behind Chickillo in strength. Then comes the learning the playbook angle too. If its the same as the old one from UVA he will have to take time to learn it.

He will get the chance to rush the passer in the 3rd and long formation. He will get to be fast and strong then, but thats shown to be a limited situation with our defense.

Or I'm wrong.
 
emrok said:
Hstokes1447 said:
Canesfan1899 said:
We will waste his talent at sde eating up blocks. Let him feast on qbs for Christ sake.
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He can still feast on QB's at SDE
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He would have to two gap the tackle. Then recognize the play is a pass. Then go from working the entire man, to half a man. Then use a pass rush technique. Then he can get the sack. This chain is forced by the scheme. It negates athleticism because of the transition from two gapping to pass rushing. A long and strong guy is more effective here. He is behind Kamalu in length and strength. He is behind Chickillo in strength. Then comes the learning the playbook angle too. If its the same as the old one from UVA he will have to take time to learn it.

He will get the chance to rush the passer in the 3rd and long formation. He will get to be fast and strong then, but thats shown to be a limited situation with our defense.

Or I'm wrong.
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Pretty much all of this!
 
Canesfan1899 said:
emrok said:
Hstokes1447 said:
Canesfan1899 said:
We will waste his talent at sde eating up blocks. Let him feast on qbs for Christ sake.
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He can still feast on QB's at SDE
Click to expand...

He would have to two gap the tackle. Then recognize the play is a pass. Then go from working the entire man, to half a man. Then use a pass rush technique. Then he can get the sack. This chain is forced by the scheme. It negates athleticism because of the transition from two gapping to pass rushing. A long and strong guy is more effective here. He is behind Kamalu in length and strength. He is behind Chickillo in strength. Then comes the learning the playbook angle too. If its the same as the old one from UVA he will have to take time to learn it.

He will get the chance to rush the passer in the 3rd and long formation. He will get to be fast and strong then, but thats shown to be a limited situation with our defense.

Or I'm wrong.
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Pretty much all of this!
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Just because Chick two gaps majority of the time when hes in doesnt mean we cant change up what the dline is doing and let Chad play more single gap when he is playing. I dont know why people are freaking out when we really don't know how Chad is going to be used in our defense. Its a depth chart for god sake. No ones seen Chad play for us before so there is no way to actually know what the coaches are thinking. Why dont we stop jumping to conclusions and just wait until the season and Chad is actually on the field.
 
Canes581 said:
Canesfan1899 said:
emrok said:
Hstokes1447 said:
Canesfan1899 said:
We will waste his talent at sde eating up blocks. Let him feast on qbs for Christ sake.
Click to expand...

He can still feast on QB's at SDE
Click to expand...

He would have to two gap the tackle. Then recognize the play is a pass. Then go from working the entire man, to half a man. Then use a pass rush technique. Then he can get the sack. This chain is forced by the scheme. It negates athleticism because of the transition from two gapping to pass rushing. A long and strong guy is more effective here. He is behind Kamalu in length and strength. He is behind Chickillo in strength. Then comes the learning the playbook angle too. If its the same as the old one from UVA he will have to take time to learn it.

He will get the chance to rush the passer in the 3rd and long formation. He will get to be fast and strong then, but thats shown to be a limited situation with our defense.

Or I'm wrong.
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Pretty much all of this!
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Just because Chick two gaps majority of the time when hes in doesnt mean we cant change up what the dline is doing and let Chad play more single gap when he is playing. I dont know why people are freaking out when we really don't know how Chad is going to be used in our defense. Its a depth chart for god sake. No ones seen Chad play for us before so there is no way to actually know what the coaches are thinking. Why dont we stop jumping to conclusions and just wait until the season and Chad is actually on the field.
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Unfortunately this staff hasn't shown a lot of creativity and flexibility on defense.
 
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