Carson Beck vs Alabama

[JHallCanes]

FiNuLy eFFiShUnT!!

 

[JHallCanes]

Ward didn't lose the game, our lack of a defense lost the game.

Cam missed a checkdown on the last play of the game so people just run with that

It’s the same kinda thing where people say if Emory didn’t break his arm we would have beaten FSU

It’s taking a snapshot and extrapolating it into something else ignoring the rest of the game

 

[ssvir]

Just glad some of y'all still find ways to make each day special by minimizing Cam Ward...

 

[Trav]

If you need a good laugh..

Miami QB Carson Beck predicted to get benched before Hurricanes’ rivalry game - Yahoo Sports https://share.google/N04XdGgSzL7D9IofG

 

[EudocimusAlbus]

second throw is all I needed to know about his receivers.

this should have been caught.

I watched some of the first half of that game, Beck didn't look all that great actually. Tossed a few nice balls, but tossed an INT and there was easily another left on the field. Terrible body language walking towards the sideline, understandably, but dude was shook that first half.

 

[Fart Keyhole]

If you need a good laugh..

Miami QB Carson Beck predicted to get benched before Hurricanes’ rivalry game - Yahoo Sports https://share.google/N04XdGgSzL7D9IofG

Everyone has to have a hot ******* take. This Kamrani imbecile from The Athletic is trying to make waves by saying that Carson Beck will be benched by October. The only splash that hack is going to make is the greasy **** he drops into the toilet after his morning coffee.

 

[TemplarCane]

If you need a good laugh..

Miami QB Carson Beck predicted to get benched before Hurricanes’ rivalry game - Yahoo Sports https://share.google/N04XdGgSzL7D9IofG

The writer of this article is a ‘college football expert’? The article is a complete joke. Was Carson inconsistent last year? Maybe a little but Georgia regressed all around him. Offensive line was not as good, below standard running game, and wide receivers who couldn’t catch a cold.

Injury questions? I give him this one, but maybe a little research on those covering the team might give you some insight on whether Beck is healthy or not.

How much do these stupid pricks get paid? There’s people on this board that could write a better, more accurate article about any team in the country. Of course they’re sure they making a better living than these dumb *** hot take artists.

 

[Glow]

One thing I notice is Brooks Austin is pointing out Beck's big-time throw ability and saying basically Beck is gonna be that dude when he gets the confidence to rip on those throws more often, and that Beck has to realize guys aren't gonna be running wide open like he was used to with Bowers.

Also notice some mistakes were happening because the offense was confused pre-snap and getting their play in late.

Confident in Dawson fixing both of these issues and optimizing Beck.

 

[TheShredder]

Cam was phenomenal but there were a half dozen times every game where he tried to do too much and more than not, it ended in a really bad decision/loss/turnover. Beck strikes me as a guy who is more than happy to take what's given to him. He's not going to look as impressive as Cam or have anywhere close to his numbers, but I have a feeling this team may be better served with his type of play.

You weirdos always do this., please tell us the game we lost cause of Cam.

 

[TakeitinDiaz]

Sorry, who's the last QB Mike BOBO developed ??

UGA and Kirby threw Beck under the bus last year when he literally has no help. His OL was trash. His RB were average. His WRs couldn't create separation and, when he did, the couldnt hold onto the ball. UGAs WRs led the country in drops last year.

After Bowers and McConkey left after 2023, he had no one to throw to in 2024.

To me, he's the most overlooked players in CFB, by a mile. The guy held his own against top SEC defenses game after game. And now, he gets the work with a real OC against ACC defenses. Maybe its my oranges and green glasses but I think Beck ends up having a better season then Klubnik, easily.

This is an excellent point. The similarities to this Georgia run to our early 2000’s run are eerily similar. You went from having a dominant team in both phases to having a defense that should be able to win you the game, except the offense completely falls apart and can’t manage to score due to **** poor coaching. Everyone overrated us in 2005 and 2006 expecting us to make noise, and ignored the fact that our offense was a shell of its former self. Same is happening to UGA right now

 

[section9]

This is an excellent point. The similarities to this Georgia run to our early 2000’s run are eerily similar. You went from having a dominant team in both phases to having a defense that should be able to win you the game, except the offense completely falls apart and can’t manage to score due to **** poor coaching. Everyone overrated us in 2005 and 2006 expecting us to make noise, and ignored the fact that our offense was a shell of its former self. Same is happening to UGA right now

So what you're saying is that Kirby's Dawgs are where we're at right about the time that we got that penalty flag at the Fiesta Bowl.

We've got the Horses, but we've also got Coker running the ship. They've got the horses, but what Kirby is doing right now is fundamentally wrong: he ain't Butch, and never can be. He came close and won a couple of Nattys, but the wheels are coming off.

Saban's Bama during the Glory Years are what would have happened if Butch Had Stayed. Kirby, for whatever reason (probably having to do with team discipline and personnel in the Head Office) can't duplicate that.

 

[TrumpyCane]

Whats the difference between Beck and Cristobal? One can beat GT.

“immovable object meeting an unstoppable force"

 

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[theribdoctor]

I watched some of the first half of that game, Beck didn't look all that great actually. Tossed a few nice balls, but tossed an INT and there was easily another left on the field. Terrible body language walking towards the sideline, understandably, but dude was shook that first half.

correct, he looked shaky...but that should have been a catch along with others...and that's a long gain at least if not a TD.

 

[E1k]

Cam was phenomenal but there were a half dozen times every game where he tried to do too much and more than not, it ended in a really bad decision/loss/turnover. Beck strikes me as a guy who is more than happy to take what's given to him. He's not going to look as impressive as Cam or have anywhere close to his numbers, but I have a feeling this team may be better served with his type of play.

#1Offense in the country by far, played so great became the #1 pick but yea lets focus on half a dozen plays to prop up our new qb lol

Who threw more picks than cam, had 3 games were he threw 3 picks but we keep bringing up the half a dozen times cam tried to “do too much”.

 

[E1k]

Just glad some of y'all still find ways to make each day special by minimizing Cam Ward...

Im bookmarking all of this **** lol

 

[Empirical Cane]

He's a very, very, very good college QB. D said it on a pod this week and I agree with him, if it wasn't for just being blessed with Cam, what he's doing at practice would be blowing people's weaves back. From everything I've heard and been told, he has been nothing short of sensational for the vast majority of camp. It's just that, everyone there just saw 1.1 for a whole year. So this is nothing new. But if Cam wasn't here last year, what he's doing on Greentree would have the building ready to burst at the seams.

I'm very, very excited and incredibly confident that this dude is going to play well enough to make the playoffs. He's got an elite arm and it's accurate as ****. However, it's not all pie in the sky. If he has some issues, here's where I have my concerns. Again, not enough to feel like he can't lead the team to the playoffs (if the rest of the dudes pull their weight too), but kind of where I think the dropoff from Cam might show up:

1. The OL will be fantastic, but when there are breakdowns and/or when defenses send a free rusher, Beck doesn't have near the escapability or pocket presence of Ward. There were a lot of times last year where Ward made things happen *in the pocket*, only to then make an insane play down the field. Shining example #1 is the play to George in the gator game. Beck can't make that play. To be fair, very, very few college QBs can. So it's not a knock on Beck, that's otherworldly talent. But those types of plays are probably going be few and far between this year, whereas Cam seemed to do that a couple times a game. He had one against Duke for a TD to X, he had one against Louisville for a long gain to X, etc. Now, this was sometimes detrimental. He held onto the ball too long at times looking for massive plays and either took sacks or turned it over. So there was a boom/bust situation there. I expect Beck to play a lot more "in structure" and not have those plays where he's evading guys in the pocket.

2. Along those same lines, his accuracy dips when he has to throw off-platform, whereas Cam's really did not. So in those times he is pressured, will he be able to evade in the pocket, and will he be able to deliver accurately? I think this will be a downgrade from what we saw last year.

3. Will the receivers be able to get open? A lot of us are thinking the ball will come out quicker, on average, versus Cam. For the reasons I said above. But for the ball to come out quick, a receiver has to be open quickly. Do we have kids who can win off the line consistently? X was elite in this area. Horton was, too. How many passes did he catch at a less than 10 yard aDOT? He used that big body well (pause), and Cam peppered him. A lot of it is Dawson, but think back to last year. We had a LOT of guys open by a considerable margin. Can this group follow suit?

4. Can we catch the football as well as we did last year? I said it time and time again, the collective group had VERY few drops. Guys made sensational catches all year, but just as importantly, they made routine catches consistently. The UGA WR struggles are well-documented. Those clowns couldn't have caught COVID in a Cuomo nursing home. The ball is going to be accurate most of the time, can the kids get open, and more importantly, can they catch the football time and time again?

These are my overall concerns for Beck and the passing game. It's almost certainly not going to be what we saw last year. We all know that. But it doesn't have to be. If the defense can be Top 25-30 (or god forbid better), and the offense can just stay in the Top 20 this year, that's one of the ~5 best teams in the country. I hope Dawson is preaching over and over, just be yourself, you don't need to do too much on this team. Make your pre-snap and post-snap reads, hit your back foot, hit MFs in the chest with footballs. If he doesn't turn the ball over, we're going to win a ton of games.

He threw 6 INTs on 417 attempts in 2023. Yes, he had McConkey and Bowers. But those dudes weren't stealing INTs from DBs. They were open, and he was hitting them, and he wasn't putting the ball in harm's way. Of the kids that year with as many attempts as Beck or more (and there were 21 such players), only 4 threw six or fewer picks. Bo Nix (3), Shedeur Sanders (3), Chandler Rogers (5), and Gunnar Watson (6).

Take away Beck's interception to LB (in the chest) and lack of awareness fumble on QB scramble/flush out, he played a very strong game against UGA.

Made all the NFL level throws you could ask for and he is no statue either.

Will he be used to Miami's OL giving him more time than he had at Jawga? He seemes very adept at firing the ball at the first open reciever, tight window or not.

 

[E1k]

I still think Ward lost the GT game by not taking checkdowns. As great as he was, he was at his best when he was operating within the structure of the offense. The offplatfom stuff was next level but too many times put us in tough spots. See Cal

The game where our defense couldn’t stop a one arm qb and a qb who only ran? The one game out of 12 where our offense didn’t bail us out..Yall are insane

 

[Sabetta]

The game where our defense couldn’t stop a one arm qb and a qb who only ran? The one game out of 12 where our offense didn’t bail us out..Yall are insane

We held GT to their season avg in scoring and well below their season avg in yards.
We only scored 23 and avg 43+ on the year.
I'm not saying the defense wasn't bad but we left a ton of points on the field. Running game also was completely shut down. And let's not mention the last play where Cam had all day, 2 in the flat and fumbled.

 

[Kn[]_[]ckles3o5]

Pretty tough to say a guy who went 25/39 for 348 yards, 3 TDs and 0 INTs lost you a game, but I think it's been beaten to death on here about his propensity to look for the big play versus sometimes just taking what's there. To be fair, he did have a fumble on what could've been a game-winning drive, too. But he was pretty good in that game. I know the point you're trying to make, however.

That game, like the other ones we lost or came close to losing, was on the defense.

We only ran 63 plays that day, when we averaged 72 in all our other games. That's a MASSIVE difference. Why? Because GT held the ball for almost 35 minutes, and our defense got their **** pushed in all night at 3-4 yards a clip. Just could not get off the field.

But we only had 10 possessions. Teams usually average at least 12 or so per game. In those 10, we scored 3 TDs, kicked a FG, were stopped on downs 3 times (at the GT 23, GT 39, and GT 22). We punted twice, and lost a fumble.

The crazy part though is we wound up 14th in the country in time of possession for the season. But that day, we held the ball for 25:11. USF was dead last in the entire country in time of possession for the season....they averaged 25:22. We just never really had the ball, and still should've won that game. Dawson was great last year, but I'll still never understanding throwing the ball on 4th and 1 on the first drive of the 2nd half when we had converted every single 4th and 1 we had the entire season to that point running the ball. Just run it, pick up your 2-3 yards, and you've got a first down at their ~35, in a 14-10 game. Instead we try to throw the ball, don't get it, and of course the defense lets GT's one-armed QB go right down the field to make it a 21-10 game, oh while taking another 4:30 off the clock. Sigh.

One thing that is undersold is the decision to not kick fgs in this game. Those decisions were impacted by the defenses performance. I have no doubt that Mario kicks at least two of those if he had any confidence in his defense to make a **** play and subsequently we would have won the game.

People can look to that game and say Mario blew it but when your defense is that putrid and unreliable it'll make you take riskier decisions. I enjoyed our high risk go for it style last season but if the defense is good and not a liability I would prefer we take points when we can this season... assuming we have a kicker who can make the kicks.