Candidate Profile: Charlie Strong

[MIATL]

For the record, I like Butch more than Strong. But you guys can't have the argument one way.

I don't like either candidate, and it's because the arguments against them are the same.

Neither should be the guy.

 

[MIATL]

This is the guy some of yall want?

Texas HC Charlie Strong says Iowa State loss wasn't embarrassing - Burnt Orange Nation

Charlie Strong - "I don't think that was embarrassing Saturday because we played hard."

Is it not embarrassing that Iowa State head coach Paul Rhoads admitted after the game that the Cyclones probably shouldn't beat the Longhorns?

"I don't know how this comes across," Roads said after the game, "but I'll say it anyway. We shouldn't beat Texas, probably. Every kid that they recruit, if I go recruit them, I'm not going to get them. ..."

Charlie Strong IS NOT the answer!

 

[Consigliere]

This is the guy some of yall want?

Texas HC Charlie Strong says Iowa State loss wasn't embarrassing - Burnt Orange Nation

Charlie Strong - "I don't think that was embarrassing Saturday because we played hard."

Is it not embarrassing that Iowa State head coach Paul Rhoads admitted after the game that the Cyclones probably shouldn't beat the Longhorns?

"I don't know how this comes across," Roads said after the game, "but I'll say it anyway. We shouldn't beat Texas, probably. Every kid that they recruit, if I go recruit them, I'm not going to get them. ..."

Charlie Strong IS NOT the answer!

Add this to your wall of shame...

Texas Longhorns coach Charlie Strong says program will never lose 5 games in a season again

 

[User-4525]

For the record, I like Butch more than Strong. But you guys can't have the argument one way.

I don't like either candidate, and it's because the arguments against them are the same.

Neither should be the guy.

very fair. Who do you want instead? Pagano, Kelly, and hue Jackson are long shots. Fuente or Herman could take the USCe or USCw if they like their offer more than us. ****, Uga and Texas may be open by the second week of the December.

 

[MIATL]

For the record, I like Butch more than Strong. But you guys can't have the argument one way.

I don't like either candidate, and it's because the arguments against them are the same.

Neither should be the guy.

very fair. Who do you want instead? Pagano, Kelly, and hue Jackson are long shots. Fuente or Herman could take the USCe or USCw if they like their offer more than us. ****, Uga and Texas may be open by the second week of the December.

I like Fuente. Liked him last year, and he's done nothing but make me more impressed. People can knock the AAC, but they've got 3 teams ranked in the top 25. That conference is every bit as good as the Mountain West conference was when Meyer was doing his thing at Utah.

And speaking of Meyer ... I can see the buzz with Tom Herman, and I'd be good with him. That November 14th game matters, to me.

I'd also add Urban's other OC, turned HC, Dan Mullen to the mix. He peaked at Miss St. last year, and Prescott leaves school this year.

If we can't make 1 of those guys see that The U is the best program to accomplish big things in college coaching, then we will deserve whoever we settle for.

 

[User-4525]

bump. I'm fine with people dismissing strong because of his work at Texas but how can you show no concern for Butch?

 

[User-4525]

bump. I'm fine with people dismissing strong because of his work at Texas but how can you show no concern for Butch?

We going to ignore Butch's tenure at UNC? Ok then.

 

[MIATL]

I don't ignore Butch's time at UNC.

And I don't think most rational posters ignore it.

The overly nostalgic guys may try to do so, but the facts are the facts.

To me, if we hire Butch Davis, it means we gave in to public pressure, or he was the best guy willing to take the job. And if either of those are the case, it's a really bad sign!

If that happens, people can line us up with Pitt and Nebraska as being a permanent member in the "has-been" club.

As for Strong .... He could still turn things around at Texas. I mean, look at Gary Patterson's first 2 seasons in the Big 12:

From 2008-2011, Patterson never lost more than 2 games during a season in the Mountain West. Actually, only lost 5 games during those 4 years. His first season in the Big 12, he lost 6 games. Then followed that season with 8 losses.

He seems to have figured things out over the past 2 seasons, though ...

Maybe Strong will follow a similar pattern??

 

[Andrew]

bump. I'm fine with people dismissing strong because of his work at Texas but how can you show no concern for Butch?

We going to ignore Butch's tenure at UNC? Ok then.

No one is ignoring Butch, it's a thread about Strong. I would be upset if Butch brings in Dorsey and doesn't go get an experienced play caller.

 

[Southcane]

bump. I'm fine with people dismissing strong because of his work at Texas but how can you show no concern for Butch?

We going to ignore Butch's tenure at UNC? Ok then.

This thread is about Strong and his elite coaching abilities that some are trying to claim.

Also, if you want to go there, Butch at UNC is not like Strong at Texas. UNC is not a marquee football program with history, tradition and resources like Texas. It has always been a basketball school first. Texas on the other hand....a power house in football in the second richest state in football talent. And Strong has more access to money and resources than Butch had at UNC. One benefit of that: Hiring the best assistants in the business (if he is can recognize their talents).

Another thing, one experience is in the past and one NOW. There is a good chance that Butch traveling the country as TV analyst, discussing football with the best coaches in college football, meeting many bright minds and seeing different schemes, all would help him be a better coach this time around.
Just my opinion.

 

[Al Foil]

Totally agree.

I think Butch has realized CFB has changed dramatically even since 2010 with the amount of spread being run. I think he would adapt on offense.

Butch also now has celebrity status.

Recruiting would be a joke for him now. The guy built the greatest college football team ever and has unfinished business.

 

[01Canes]

Bumping this because the Iowa State team that shutout Strong's offense a week ago has given up 38 points through 3 quarters against Oklahoma.

Strong's disastrous offense should eliminate him from consideration, IMO. Not to mention that their defense is also ranked in the 100s.

 

[User-4525]

bump. I'm fine with people dismissing strong because of his work at Texas but how can you show no concern for Butch?

We going to ignore Butch's tenure at UNC? Ok then.

No one is ignoring Butch, it's a thread about Strong. I would be upset if Butch brings in Dorsey and doesn't go get an experienced play caller.

You are ignoring and deflecting away from Butch to continue your attack on strong. Look, I don't have a problem with anyone hating on strong for his tenure at Texas. It's warranted. But you can't attack strongs record at UT and not do the same for Butch. It doesn't make sense. Butch Davis did not have a good tenure at UNC. There is not many ways to spin that last sentence. And I'm still promoting a discussion about strong but comparing him to another option, Butch Davis.

 

[User-4525]

And since when did what a thread title mean the discussions can't go on a tangent? Most of cis threads go off on tangent discussions.


I am still talking about strong but using Butch Davis as a comparison. It's incredible, muschamp and strong being compared is OK, but Butch Davis and strong can't be compared?

 

[Tad Footeball]

Kansas almost on pace to put up 500 yds of total offense on them tonight too. Kansas. Not K State. Kansas.

 

[DiegoCane]

I can't believe anyone would want Strong.

Anyone who does is a potato. Most conservative coach is CFB, horrid

 

[919cane]

bump. I'm fine with people dismissing strong because of his work at Texas but how can you show no concern for Butch?

We going to ignore Butch's tenure at UNC? Ok then.

No one is ignoring Butch, it's a thread about Strong. I would be upset if Butch brings in Dorsey and doesn't go get an experienced play caller.

You are ignoring and deflecting away from Butch to continue your attack on strong. Look, I don't have a problem with anyone hating on strong for his tenure at Texas. It's warranted. But you can't attack strongs record at UT and not do the same for Butch. It doesn't make sense. Butch Davis did not have a good tenure at UNC. There is not many ways to spin that last sentence. And I'm still promoting a discussion about strong but comparing him to another option, Butch Davis.

Disagree that Butch did not have a good tenure at UNC. That was a full rebuild and they were poised to take off in year 4 before all the suspensions hit. Additionally, following his last year there UNC had 12 players invited to the combine and had 9 drafted (tied for most in the country).

 

[User-4525]

bump. I'm fine with people dismissing strong because of his work at Texas but how can you show no concern for Butch?

We going to ignore Butch's tenure at UNC? Ok then.

No one is ignoring Butch, it's a thread about Strong. I would be upset if Butch brings in Dorsey and doesn't go get an experienced play caller.

You are ignoring and deflecting away from Butch to continue your attack on strong. Look, I don't have a problem with anyone hating on strong for his tenure at Texas. It's warranted. But you can't attack strongs record at UT and not do the same for Butch. It doesn't make sense. Butch Davis did not have a good tenure at UNC. There is not many ways to spin that last sentence. And I'm still promoting a discussion about strong but comparing him to another option, Butch Davis.

Disagree that Butch did not have a good tenure at UNC. That was a full rebuild and they were poised to take off in year 4 before all the suspensions hit. Additionally, following his last year there UNC had 12 players invited to the combine and had 9 drafted (tied for most in the country).

I don't think he a bad tenure but his underachievement in year 2+ 3 makes me not see his tenure as "good"

Another reason I don't see it as good is because of the bolded. He still had all that talent in year 3 and went 8-5.

 

[The Franchise]

bump. I'm fine with people dismissing strong because of his work at Texas but how can you show no concern for Butch?

We going to ignore Butch's tenure at UNC? Ok then.

No one is ignoring Butch, it's a thread about Strong. I would be upset if Butch brings in Dorsey and doesn't go get an experienced play caller.

You are ignoring and deflecting away from Butch to continue your attack on strong. Look, I don't have a problem with anyone hating on strong for his tenure at Texas. It's warranted. But you can't attack strongs record at UT and not do the same for Butch. It doesn't make sense. Butch Davis did not have a good tenure at UNC. There is not many ways to spin that last sentence. And I'm still promoting a discussion about strong but comparing him to another option, Butch Davis.

Disagree that Butch did not have a good tenure at UNC. That was a full rebuild and they were poised to take off in year 4 before all the suspensions hit. Additionally, following his last year there UNC had 12 players invited to the combine and had 9 drafted (tied for most in the country).

His tenure at UNC was a flop. Look at what Fedora is doing this year at that same school while battling hardcore probation and 10 different investigations into the program. Think it might be hard to get players in there with all those investigations going on?

 

[LuCane]

We going to ignore Butch's tenure at UNC? Ok then.

No one is ignoring Butch, it's a thread about Strong. I would be upset if Butch brings in Dorsey and doesn't go get an experienced play caller.

You are ignoring and deflecting away from Butch to continue your attack on strong. Look, I don't have a problem with anyone hating on strong for his tenure at Texas. It's warranted. But you can't attack strongs record at UT and not do the same for Butch. It doesn't make sense. Butch Davis did not have a good tenure at UNC. There is not many ways to spin that last sentence. And I'm still promoting a discussion about strong but comparing him to another option, Butch Davis.

Disagree that Butch did not have a good tenure at UNC. That was a full rebuild and they were poised to take off in year 4 before all the suspensions hit. Additionally, following his last year there UNC had 12 players invited to the combine and had 9 drafted (tied for most in the country).

His tenure at UNC was a flop. Look at what Fedora is doing this year at that same school while battling hardcore probation and 10 different investigations into the program. Think it might be hard to get players in there with all those investigations going on?

Are you against him being hired here?