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Can someone explain this old wives tale to me?

BWCD said:
Forget young/old/in between - Mario's job as a HC is to play the players that give us the best chance to win every week. At the QB position, TVD isn't that player anymore. Choose one of EW/JB and roll. We (and Mario) are making this more difficult of a decision than it has to be.
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Assuming there is a decision. Tyler has Cristobals nudes and is hanging it over his head for playing time. It's really the only logical conclusion I can make from this.
 
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NJshoreCane said:
Agree.
If Emory cant take it, he’s not our guy.

If TVD plays, I hope he has the game of his life.
If it’s Emory, let’s go….with the entire playbook.
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Emory can take it. Against Clumpsome D he responded at the LOS, “First, I’d like to thank the Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ….Good question, thank you Sirs”, then went on to deliver the goods effectively. My hero.
 
PIPO said:
OBM - all live but we can’t create a crutch for these player or kids in general.

Put a solid game plan together that is tailored to his strengths (crossing routes, passing concepts of 7-12 yards, screens, mix in the occasional deep ball down the sidelines, and the run) and just let it ride. Mix in some Jacurri packages and keep their defense in conflict as much as possible. He’s already been in the fire.

What I would not do I just line up and pins the ball at every opportunity and then expect him to complete a 3rd & 7 or longer every time.

Must keep the 3rd down distance manageable. Throw on first downs instead of always running on first downs.

The coaching has to be better. Plain and simple. I believe he can handle the moment just fine.
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Agreed, and like I said earlier, if he plays, you're likely to see the Clemson gameplan again, maybe with just a little more schemed down the field since I don't think FSU's defense is as good as Clemson's, plus Emory now has a game under his belt. But it will be very conservative, slow, ball-control offense in hopes you can keep your defense fresh and off the field. I don't think you can beat FSU like that, but maybe we can pull that 1 out of 10 times type game out of our *** and get it done. I do know for a fact if you go to Doak and turn it over 3 times, you're dead.
 
caneworld said:
Clement and Costa went there before him... never came out
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You can’t compare QB play across generations. Offenses are easier than ever to run. You have all the advantages. And Emory has already faced a better defense than the one he’d play Saturday.
 
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It's a CIS trap!!! Since it looks like TVD will start, Mario's going with the "old wive's tale" of not putting the young kid in the spotlight.

If Emory was starting, Mario's doing this so he has an excuse for getting blown out. He knows FSU will win and he's putting the kid out there instead. He's probably going to ruin his confidence.

There is no option that would please CIS other than GD winning and let's hope the Canes can start doing just that.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Agreed, and like I said earlier, if he plays, you're likely to see the Clemson gameplan again, maybe with just a little more schemed down the field since I don't think FSU's defense is as good as Clemson's, plus Emory now has a game under his belt. But it will be very conservative, slow, ball-control offense in hopes you can keep your defense fresh and off the field. I don't think you can beat FSU like that, but maybe we can pull that 1 out of 10 times type game out of our *** and get it done. I do know for a fact if you go to Doak and turn it over 3 times, you're dead.
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I am so against the ground and pound Clemson game plan. It’s so predictable which is why I think we are going to see it regardless of who the QB is going to be.
 
PIPO said:
I am so against the ground and pound Clemson game plan. It’s so predictable which is why I think we are going to see it regardless of who the QB is going to be.
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I agree but it's the only way you have a chance to win. We are not deep on defense. FSU is very deep and good on offense. The only way to really give yourself a puncher's chance to beat them over 60 minutes is to either just score at will on offense and make them match you, or try to limit the amount of time your defense is on the field in order to keep it fresh and hopefully it can hold up over 12-13 possessions.

I don't see Emory Williams lighting FSU up on the road in a fast-paced scheme, throwing it all over the field against an aggressive (but slow) secondary. I just don't. Maybe I'm wrong, and FSU expects us to run so they'll put 8 in the box and our best chance is to let the kid throw it 40 times. I just don't see that. So to me, the only option is to make sure you take care of the football first, be efficient in the run game and get creative in the short passing game, and try to keep your defense fresh. Against Clemson we held the ball for something like 38 minutes, and the defense was awesome in the 4th quarter. IMO the only way we win this game is something like 23-20, not 41-38.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
I agree but it's the only way you have a chance to win. We are not deep on defense. FSU is very deep and good on offense. The only way to really give yourself a puncher's chance to beat them over 60 minutes is to either just score at will on offense and make them match you, or try to limit the amount of time your defense is on the field in order to keep it fresh and hopefully it can hold up over 12-13 possessions.

I don't see Emory Williams lighting FSU up on the road in a fast-paced scheme, throwing it all over the field against an aggressive (but slow) secondary. I just don't. Maybe I'm wrong, and FSU expects us to run so they'll put 8 in the box and our best chance is to let the kid throw it 40 times. I just don't see that. So to me, the only option is to make sure you take care of the football first, be efficient in the run game and get creative in the short passing game, and try to keep your defense fresh. Against Clemson we held the ball for something like 38 minutes, and the defense was awesome in the 4th quarter. IMO the only way we win this game is something like 23-20, not 41-38.
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I want to see Emory come out throwing. I want the game plan to show something different where you catch them planning and scheming for ground and pound, we run some tempo and catch them on quick left hook where we score 7-14 points in the first quarter and a half and then you switch to the ground and pound around the 4th series.

****, I’ll just take 2 series of doing something different than what they are expecting.
 
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PIPO said:
I want to see Emory come out throwing. I want the game plan to show something different where you catch them planning and scheming for ground and pound, we run some tempo and catch them on quick left hook where we score 7-14 points in the first quarter and a half and then you switch to the ground and pound around the 4th series.

****, I’ll just take 2 series of doing something different than what they are expecting.
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The key to success with Emory is big plays. It’s hard for a young kid to have go 10-12 plays every drive without a mistake. It’s gonna be impossible to have big plays running the all against 7-8 man boxes. But you still can’t let Emory throw it 50 times and try to keep up with FSU. You gotta control the ball and take your shots.

There will be chances to scheme up chunk plays off of the boring offense we’ve seen. If Dawson pulls out pump and go off a WR screen with Emory at QB, there wouldn’t be anyone within 30 yards of the receiver.
 
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jackedaround said:
"If you start a young QB against a good team and he gets crushed you will ruin him."

Where the **** does this actually come from? It is bull**** if you ask me. Players don't grow without adversity.

I have heard porsters say this in terms of why you can't play Emory at FSU over a hurt TVD. It makes no logical sense and is just a soft mentality excuse. Ask Tua.
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You've never watched NFL football before have you?
 
jackedaround said:
"If you start a young QB against a good team and he gets crushed you will ruin him."

Where the **** does this actually come from? It is bull**** if you ask me. Players don't grow without adversity.

I have heard porsters say this in terms of why you can't play Emory at FSU over a hurt TVD. It makes no logical sense and is just a soft mentality excuse. Ask Tua.
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Exactly. Pure garbage. Give me a kid who’s not afraid to make mistakes and a coaching staff that allows him to without handcuffing him into oblivion.

This clown staff ruins kids because they don’t believe in them.
 
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