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2026 Calvin Russell III

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gogeta4 said:
TOP LOCALLY.

DIDNT LOOK OUT OF PLACE IN OT7 EARLIER THIS SPRING WHERE ALL THE TOP WRS WERE.

HES FIRMLY A TOP 20 WR I'D SAY.

i GAVE MY COMP FOR HIM BEFORE...IF YOUR COMPARING HIM TO JJ Smith that's a no.

Want to see sr szn before i se where he falls in line with the usual s.fla top wrs though.
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He's top 10 imo.

I don't get the hate by some on here. That's a tall kid running and jumping like a **** deer.
 
gogeta4 said:
TOP LOCALLY.

DIDNT LOOK OUT OF PLACE IN OT7 EARLIER THIS SPRING WHERE ALL THE TOP WRS WERE.

HES FIRMLY A TOP 20 WR I'D SAY.

i GAVE MY COMP FOR HIM BEFORE...IF YOUR COMPARING HIM TO JJ Smith that's a no.

Want to see sr szn before i se where he falls in line with the usual s.fla top wrs though.
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He is ranked composite #5. I asked you if you believed he was a top 5 WR you responded with he is top 20. I think that correlates with the opinion he is overrated.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
He should be and might be.

But this kid is rock throwing distance from your school, his mom is in your athletics hall of fame, and he’s an elite prospect at a position where we’ve whiffed on elite prospects in this area for a long, long time.

We hired Mario for a lot of reasons, but none more than keeping this exact type of kid home.

Get it done.

Now, if we sign Keys, and this kid bounces, I’ll overlook the whiff. But not getting Keys NOR this kid is unacceptable.
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Question. What did you think of Tommy Streeter?
 
gogeta4 said:
TOP LOCALLY.

DIDNT LOOK OUT OF PLACE IN OT7 EARLIER THIS SPRING WHERE ALL THE TOP WRS WERE.

HES FIRMLY A TOP 20 WR I'D SAY.

i GAVE MY COMP FOR HIM BEFORE...IF YOUR COMPARING HIM TO JJ Smith that's a no.

Want to see sr szn before i se where he falls in line with the usual s.fla top wrs though.
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Were a national program now. The mindset of because a kid is good and he's local means he's elite and a must get is foolish. That just means if we land him and he doesn't play at an elite level than we only get the local jags or we're not developing. I'm sorry but he's not elite RIGHT NOW. Sure I'll concede he may POTENTIALLY become that. But I agree all day he's a top 15-20 receiver. He's tall and his mom's is in our hall of fame. So that makes him a must get I suppose. For me his BEST COMP is Tommy Streeter & that's a **** of a comp cause Tommy was **** good ONCE HE DEVELOPED. To me that's KEY with this kid is give him the time to develop and don't label him a jag just because people do that on here before he gets that opportunity.
 
Brooklyndee said:
Were a national program now. The mindset of because a kid is good and he's local means he's elite and a must get is foolish. That just means if we land him and he doesn't play at an elite level than we only get the local jags or we're not developing. I'm sorry but he's not elite RIGHT NOW. Sure I'll concede he may POTENTIALLY become that. But I agree all day he's a top 15-20 receiver. He's tall and his mom's is in our hall of fame. So that makes him a must get I suppose. For me his BEST COMP is Tommy Streeter & that's a **** of a comp cause Tommy was **** good ONCE HE DEVELOPED. To me that's KEY with this kid is give him the time to develop and don't label him a jag just because people do that on here before he gets that opportunity.
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See you have to say it cause they won’t believe me. Idk sh and you are a former player, but my regular *** eyes…..he doesn’t pop off the screen he looks slow. And slow means he won’t create separation at the d1 level. Then the coaches will get blamed when you can literally see it right there on film. You take him if he’s not the crown jewel of the wr class. If he is, you will be portaling for a wr1 again. And be left with scraps in the portal. And Streeter straight line can move bruh and I don’t seee that with this dude. Again I could be wrong, but I do agree we are a national program. And to be a national champion you have to recruit the best nationally. If you stay stuck on sfla only you get the last 20 years of Miami football. Without OOS elites you won’t win and you will be average. Is he a top 20 wr in the class? Yes……but there is a huge drop off from the top guys to him. It’s like that with most position in HS recruiting. There is a huge drop off from the top three tackles compared to the rest. You can make that case for every position group yearly
 
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Dwinstitles said:
See you have to say it cause they won’t believe me. Idk sh and you are a former player, but my regular *** eyes…..he doesn’t pop off the screen he looks slow. And slow means he won’t create separation at the d1 level. Then the coaches will get blamed when you can literally see it right there on film. You take him if he’s not the crown jewel of the wr class. If he is, you will be portaling for a wr1 again. And be left with scraps in the portal. And Streeter straight line can move bruh and I don’t seee that with this dude. Again I could be wrong, but I do agree we are a national program. And to be a national champion you have to recruit the best nationally. If you stay stuck on sfla only you get the last 20 years of Miami football. Without OOS elites you won’t win and you will be average. Is he a top 20 wr in the class? Yes……but there is a huge drop off from the top guys to him. It’s like that with most position in HS recruiting. There is a huge drop off from the top three tackles compared to the rest. You can make that case for every position group yearly
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So you got plenty of things you're saying here you're correct on. Clarifications sake though for several things. SPEED at certain positions is slightly overrated. It's not the critical factor and it's not what creates separation MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. What creates separation is being explosive. Getting in and out of your breaks without lag. For instance look at X and look at someone who runs at a high top end. 9 out of 10 someone like X will get more separation in routes because he gets in and out of his breaks without losing his acceleration. Top end dudes (unless they're freaks of nature like cheetah etc) they can't maintain speed outside of their breaks. For reasons as simple as longer strides etc. Streeter had high top end and was slow out of his breaks. I think that's similar with Russell. He ain't slow by a long shot. But his explosiveness ain't there. I think that's the biggest issue especially considering he's a basketball player too. But if you watch his basketball highlights you see how under developed he is physically. All his highlights show he's relatively clumsy in his footwork. I ain't trying to **** on the kid. More than likely he's still growing or recently had a growth spurt and simply hasn't acclimated himself to his build. It's not a him thing. It's a human thing. It's not wrong at all to make him some version of a priority. Just not THE PRIORITY. He CAN BECOME THE NEXT CALVIN JOHNSON... BUT there is no way to know for sure how his body is going to develop nor is their anyway to know what his work ethic will remain. Kids going to have to put in a ton of work on himself physically and his game. BUT can't ignore this kids upside. It would be a loss if we don't land him. But realistically speaking I'd guess it will be at least 2 years before he is playing anywhere near his peak.
 
Brooklyndee said:
So you got plenty of things you're saying here you're correct on. Clarifications sake though for several things. SPEED at certain positions is slightly overrated. It's not the critical factor and it's not what creates separation MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. What creates separation is being explosive. Getting in and out of your breaks without lag. For instance look at X and look at someone who runs at a high top end. 9 out of 10 someone like X will get more separation in routes because he gets in and out of his breaks without losing his acceleration. Top end dudes (unless they're freaks of nature like cheetah etc) they can't maintain speed outside of their breaks. For reasons as simple as longer strides etc. Streeter had high top end and was slow out of his breaks. I think that's similar with Russell. He ain't slow by a long shot. But his explosiveness ain't there. I think that's the biggest issue especially considering he's a basketball player too. But if you watch his basketball highlights you see how under developed he is physically. All his highlights show he's relatively clumsy in his footwork. I ain't trying to **** on the kid. More than likely he's still growing or recently had a growth spurt and simply hasn't acclimated himself to his build. It's not a him thing. It's a human thing. It's not wrong at all to make him some version of a priority. Just not THE PRIORITY. He CAN BECOME THE NEXT CALVIN JOHNSON... BUT there is no way to know for sure how his body is going to develop nor is their anyway to know what his work ethic will remain. Kids going to have to put in a ton of work on himself physically and his game. BUT can't ignore this kids upside. It would be a loss if we don't land him. But realistically speaking I'd guess it will be at least 2 years before he is playing anywhere near his peak.
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Agree explosiveness is more important 1000% I agree with all of this. This is exactly what I’m trying to say. Streeter just had a go route although fast and create seperation cause no route tree and long strider. Terrible footwork for this kid and the explosiveness doesn’t show on tape
 
Brooklyndee said:
We’re a national program now. The mindset of because a kid is good and he's local means he's elite and a must get is foolish. That just means if we land him and he doesn't play at an elite level than we only get the local jags or we're not developing. I'm sorry but he's not elite RIGHT NOW. Sure I'll concede he may POTENTIALLY become that. But I agree all day he's a top 15-20 receiver. He's tall and his mom's is in our hall of fame. So that makes him a must get I suppose. For me his BEST COMP is Tommy Streeter & that's a **** of a comp cause Tommy was **** good ONCE HE DEVELOPED. To me that's KEY with this kid is give him the time to develop and don't label him a jag just because people do that on here before he gets that opportunity.
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Agreed on this

To add to it the last 5 star WR we landed from OOS was Lance Leggett

Jeff Thomas was close but not a 5 star composite IIRC

But we’ve taken some big swings under Mario need to land someone like Keys and change this
 
JHallCanes said:
Agreed on this

To add to it the last 5 star WR we landed from OOS was Lance Leggett

Jeff Thomas was close but not a 5 star composite IIRC

But we’ve taken some big swings under Mario need to land someone like Keys and change this
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Stack 5 stars. Some pan out some won't. But the ones that do will be gamechangers.
 
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Squid Bumciorek said:
Stack 5 stars. Some pan out some won't. But the ones that do will be gamechangers.
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I encourage you to not go back and take a look at the WRs we have brought in the last 25 years

Like Brooklyn was saying it doesn’t have to be about local guys but the issue has been we have missed the top local guys AND haven’t made up for it anywhere else

We end up taking the second tier local guys and hope you find some guys like X or George but the list of fails is much longer
 
JHallCanes said:
I encourage you to not go back and take a look at the WRs we have brought in the last 25 years

Like Brooklyn was saying it doesn’t have to be about local guys but the issue has been we have missed the top local guys AND haven’t made up for it anywhere else

We end up taking the second tier local guys and hope you find some guys like X or George but the list of f
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But there's blame to go around. #1 in a landslide is our coaching in that duration hasn't lived up to their end of the burden. Our development for a large portion of that 20 plus years was stagnant for numerous reasons. Especially we let competition take a back seat. We prioritized playing time with kids who came from certain schools or certain rankings. That never would've happened from Butch back. #2 Fans have to wear some blame. With the development of social media etc coaches have had to acknowledge that fans have a voice. Not saying its a big factor at all. But it does play some version of a role. More than anything it applies pressure to players that should be focusing on the task at hand.

As stated we definitely reach (not as much now as previously)for the local kids. You have to see with personalized training and camps (cost of living in Florida causing relocation)a lot of other areas are catching up to the local beasts. They deserve just as much opportunity as the locals.

Biggest issue we have moving forward is targeting kids that the money won't change them. It's a real issue and luckily it's something EVERYONE has to pay attention to
 
Brooklyndee said:
It's not wrong at all to make him some version of a priority. Just not THE PRIORITY. He CAN BECOME THE NEXT CALVIN JOHNSON... BUT there is no way to know for sure how his body is going to develop nor is their anyway to know what his work ethic will remain. Kids going to have to put in a ton of work on himself physically and his game. BUT can't ignore this kids upside. It would be a loss if we don't land him. But realistically speaking I'd guess it will be at least 2 years before he is playing anywhere near his peak.
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.... strictly about the megatron part lol...
 
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