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California’s Far Pay to Play Bill

TheRichtShow said:
There is nothing unconstitutional about that.

The NCAA is a voluntary, private organization. It does not have to sanction schools if it chooses not to. The state can force the NCAA to comply with its laws IF the NCAA chooses to operate in CA.

But the NCAA can say f it and pull out of CA altogether. There's nothing unconsitutional about choosing that path and "amateurism" has been consistently upheld by the 9th Circuit anyways, so an argument that it's obsolete has no merit
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first paragraph can go both ways. This is would not even go until effect until 2023. There will be so many moves on both parts so not much point in arguing

2nd paragraph - I feel strong that ‘amateurism’ can and will be challenged in the future regardless of the past. And there have been major investigations in the last year that have shown the athletes to be taking in hefty compensation for merely playing a sport for a school
 
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MISTER OWL said:
first paragraph can go both ways. This is would not even go until effect until 2023. There will be so many moves on both parts so not much point in arguing

2nd paragraph - I feel strong that ‘amateurism’ can and will be challenged in the future regardless of the past. And there have been major investigations in the last year that have shown the athletes to be taking in hefty compensation for merely playing a sport for a school
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This correct. I don't have a legal background, but I did some acting on the set of Cheers once. In one of the episodes the idea of amateurism in athletics emerged and Kelsey Grammer who used to drink us to sleep before getting us aboard his boat in Ft. Lauderdale made the point that "every amateur began as an expert." Or was it the other way around, I dont know, we were all coked to the gills. But yes if you think about it on a cosmic timeline the transition from amateur to expert is God simply making an omelette with tarragon from dirty hen eggs. We might see the demarcation of talent but the fluidity of metamorphosis of here and there, of pleb and "artuse" is merely a spatula and some heat. On that I think we all agree,
 
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TheRichtShow said:
There is nothing unconstitutional about that.

The NCAA is a voluntary, private organization. It does not have to sanction schools if it chooses not to. The state can force the NCAA to comply with its laws IF the NCAA chooses to operate in CA.

But the NCAA can say f it and pull out of CA altogether. There's nothing unconsitutional about choosing that path and "amateurism" has been consistently upheld by the 9th Circuit anyways, so an argument that it's obsolete has no merit
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But not if they make the monopoly argument which I think would be a very strong case in this situation. If so, that would actually force uncle sams hand to break them up. Or so I would hope.
 
Despite the past 15 or so years, the U is still a very marketable brand. I think the players could definitely benefit financially and would help Miami with recruiting.
 
Kind of off topic but how punchable is that face?
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MISTER OWL said:
Why is that?
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I say we're not winning because we are not allowed to pay kids while so many others are. Well, that's one of many reasons. I believe we are more of a national brand than Alabama, and if something like this were to pass, we'd have a fighting chance. Of course, the NCAA doesn't want this, because they like to be able to control where kids go. They like the money coming in, and they believe they have a working model that doesn't need fixing. They know if they let some schools buy players, those schools will out perform others and draw ratings. This was part of the investigation against UM, in my opinion. It made it so much easier for other schools to come into our back yard and take recruits. ****, they hardly had to bag then, because Miami was getting the death penalty. The NCAA is the new WWF. Rigged as ****.
 
I don't think many kids at all would get big marketing deals unless they're in the Heisman race or something like that. I think this would mostly result in local businesses paying kids for autograph sessions and **** like that. This would allow all the redneck boosters to funnel money legally through businesses so I actually think this would help the big state schools where the town's revolve around football/University aka ****hole SEC cities and not Miami. The amount a player could make would probably correlate to average attendance.
 
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