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California’s Far Pay to Play Bill

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It would mandate that all California college players can sell their likeness. I am wondering if this would help or hurt Miami In recruiting. Would it increase the likelihood of a kid going to a certain school to increase the value of an image sale? Would Miami be such a school. Just wondering if there are any opinions on the bill as to impact on Miami if it became the new NCAA over time.
 
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I'm not expert in this area, or any for that matter, but I think it would help Miami. Right now we have no way to combat the money being thrown at recruits, and this would give us at least a chance to sell recruits on something other than "The U". We are a national brand, and kids know this. The only way it hurts us is if we are one of the schools not doing it. Kind of like the bag game currently.
 
Bama, Clemson, LSU all have players that have collected over $1 million while being a college athlete. All of our players at $0.

Bama, Clemson, LSU, Texas A&M, Georgia, Ohio State all spend over $3 Million each cycle for new recruits. We spend $0

This gives us a chance. Miami as a school and city are extremely marketable. If a player can bring in a few hundred thousand dollars in marketing agreements, they are extremely less incentiveized to move to Tuscaloosa for a few hundred thousand dollar donation via booster networks

Many college athletes not only come from humble upbringings, but have children of their own. At Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Texas A&M, Ohio State, these players are provided the means to take care of their families. At Miami they are not. And this would give them an opportunity to support their families through legitimate business deals as opposed to shady grey area donations with no paper trail.

This is huge for us. Florida needs to get on board.
 
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OldhamA said:
Didn't the NCAA say that if that bill passes, no California based team can compete in the post season?
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Yes, Mark Emmert threatened that as well as no NCAA tournament games in California, which is a more realistic threat.

The no playoff threat could be challenged because this is State Law. The university, team, and players have no authority in state lawmaking. Universities are not legislatures. The NCAA would be punishing an entity and student athletes for the act becoming a law. And that’s unconditional. This could be appealed.

The state of California could also fight back and say the idea of “ametuerism” is obsolete, citing an entire federal investigation that confirms players being paid. And there are plenty of other investigations in Louisiana and Alabama that cite people paying NCAA football players.
 
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MISTER OWL said:
Yes, Mark Emmert threatened that as well as no NCAA tournament games in California, which is a more realistic threat.

The no playoff threat could be challenged because this is State Law. The university, team, and players have no authority in state lawmaking. Universities are not legislatures. The NCAA would be punishing an entity and student athletes for the act becoming a law. And that’s unconstitutional. This could be appealed.

The state of California could also fight back and say the idea of “ametuerism” is obsolete, citing an entire federal investigation that confirms players being paid. And there are plenty of other investigations in Louisiana and Alabama that cite people paying NCAA football players.
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Watching the NCAA and State of California fight would be entertaining - kind of like watching the Gator/Python battles in the Everglades. It would be great if they kill each other - which they did in that epic battle - Python swallowed the Gator, but the Gator busted open the Python's stomach while being eaten.
 
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MISTER OWL said:
Yes, Mark Emmert threatened that as well as no NCAA tournament games in California, which is a more realistic threat.

The no playoff threat could be challenged because this is State Law. The university, team, and players have no authority in state lawmaking. Universities are not legislatures. The NCAA would be punishing an entity and student athletes for the act becoming a law. And that’s unconstitutional. This could be appealed.

The state of California could also fight back and say the idea of “ametuerism” is obsolete, citing an entire federal investigation that confirms players being paid. And there are plenty of other investigations in Louisiana and Alabama that cite people paying NCAA football players.
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This. Absolutely no way the NCAA is able to keep Cali teams out of the post season. Empty threat and smells of desperation.
 
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MISTER OWL said:
Yes, Mark Emmert threatened that as well as no NCAA tournament games in California, which is a more realistic threat.

The no playoff threat could be challenged because this is State Law. The university, team, and players have no authority in state lawmaking. Universities are not legislatures. The NCAA would be punishing an entity and student athletes for the act becoming a law. And that’s unconstitutional. This could be appealed.

The state of California could also fight back and say the idea of “ametuerism” is obsolete, citing an entire federal investigation that confirms players being paid. And there are plenty of other investigations in Louisiana and Alabama that cite people paying NCAA football players.
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There is nothing unconstitutional about that.

The NCAA is a voluntary, private organization. It does not have to sanction schools if it chooses not to. The state can force the NCAA to comply with its laws IF the NCAA chooses to operate in CA.

But the NCAA can say f it and pull out of CA altogether. There's nothing unconsitutional about choosing that path and "amateurism" has been consistently upheld by the 9th Circuit anyways, so an argument that it's obsolete has no merit
 
brock said:
Hope so
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Ha, it'd be the opposite actually. You'd have to secure the name/likeness rights of EVERY player individually.

The NCAA and EA could bring the game back now if there was a desire to reach an agreement. A law like this makes it virtually impossible.

Pro Sports video games are possible because players sign over their name/likeness rights to the leagues as part of their contracts
 
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I'm no lawyer and don't know the applicable statutes but if I'm a high school kid looking to cash in I'm Cali bound. I can get some bags up front and keep money coming in with these new rules. SEC has some real competition if I understand this correctly.
 
USC back in it!!

Way too complicated to figure if this is good or bad for us. We are unique in a few ways.
 
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