Butch Davis on Joe Rose???

[UMFarArcher]

u know who doenst want butch back at UM? Nick Saban. he knows that is one man and one program that can challenge his dominance.

I'm not sure about Saban, but I know **** well Jimbo is happy we still have Golden ****ting the bed for us.

You don't suppose Shalala and our AD are taking money under the table from FSU boosters, do you?

No other explanation for keeping Golden. He's been FSU's biggest asset.

 

[OzarCaneSaw]

all of this is going to backfire on Butch.. calling out the coach and actively saying you want the job, while a coach is still on the team.

Backfire? How? Right now, he doesn't have the job. If he makes the U mad, he still won't have the job. To backfire, your actions have to make things worse for you.

safe tp say teams arent lining up to hire Butch as a Hc(maybe small, small schools). Miami perhaps is his only shot at being a division one HC. criticizing the current regime, isnt gonna sit well with those who run the football program and those whom make the hiring/firing process.

Safe to say you don't know **** from Shinola. You have no idea what school has contacted him and who hasn't. Youre just a little ***** who's throwing a hissy fit because your crush is gonna get **** canned. Maybe this week, next month, a year from now. But one things for certain, Golden is gone. He's a fat loser and you can't stand it. Can't wait for him to be gone so you can go with him.

 

[OzarCaneSaw]

u know who doenst want butch back at UM? Nick Saban. he knows that is one man and one program that can challenge his dominance.

The entire SEC doesn't want Butch back at UM. With the new playoff, how do you keep the Cane out of HC game two or three years from now? What Butch did last time in recruiting is nothing to what he will do this time. After The U 2, Butch at Miami will have whoever he wants. What kid would not want to have "Butch Davis recruit" on his resume? The NFL surely remembers Butch's recruits.

I ask all the Butch slurpers, why would it take him 2-3 years to make it in the playoff? Why not year 1?

Are you ******* retarded? That's the only explanation for such an idiotic statement. Butch "slurpers"? Are you ******* kidding me? I'd think that any actual fan of the program would be, by definition, a Butch "slurper", you dumb ****. He's the coach responsible for our last championship and for us going 3-1 in four straight BCS games. Also was the architect of the greatest CFB team of all time. You got a problem with Butch, you ignorant ****?

 

[Eyhr]

Butch would have Miami in the ACC championship in year two, and very likely in the playoffs by year 4-5. Fact is, he's never being hired here again and it sucks. Our best hope is that whoever the BOT hires has different priorities than Shalllllllala, he (or she) gets rid of James, and we luck into the next Butch. The past has proven that Butch Davis is not the only person that can win big here, we just need the right person to find the next man up.

 

[UMFarArcher]

Butch would have Miami in the ACC championship in year two, and very likely in the playoffs by year 4-5. Fact is, he's never being hired here again and it sucks. Our best hope is that whoever the BOT hires has different priorities than Shalllllllala, he (or she) gets rid of James, and we luck into the next Butch. The past has proven that Butch Davis is not the only person that can win big here, we just need the right person to find the next man up.

Why, exactly, would you want to gamble on finding the next Butch, when you can get the real thing?

You're new here, probably a coach's wife, or family member of the extended Al Golden family - but **** - don't make it so obvious by suggesting Butch can't get hired at UM.

 

[Cane2]

Butch would have Miami in the ACC championship in year two, and very likely in the playoffs by year 4-5. Fact is, he's never being hired here again and it sucks. Our best hope is that whoever the BOT hires has different priorities than Shalllllllala, he (or she) gets rid of James, and we luck into the next Butch. The past has proven that Butch Davis is not the only person that can win big here, we just need the right person to find the next man up.

Why, exactly, would you want to gamble on finding the next Butch, when you can get the real thing?

You're new here, probably a coach's wife, or family member of the extended Al Golden family - but **** - don't make it so obvious by suggesting Butch can't get hired at UM.

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[Klamalama]

all of this is going to backfire on Butch.. calling out the coach and actively saying you want the job, while a coach is still on the team.

Backfire? How? Right now, he doesn't have the job. If he makes the U mad, he still won't have the job. To backfire, your actions have to make things worse for you.

safe tp say teams arent lining up to hire Butch as a Hc(maybe small, small schools). Miami perhaps is his only shot at being a division one HC. criticizing the current regime, isnt gonna sit well with those who run the football program and those whom make the hiring/firing process.

Who gives a flying ******* crap about how well things may or may not sit with the administration. They have only shown total incompetence in their hires, an animus to the fans, and a complete repudiation of The U's football legacy. Those who make the hiring/firing decisions need to be FIRED! They are the enemy.

The time for nice words, pleasant wishes, and good sentiment is long passed. Fan PRESSURE is all we have left, to save U football.

Idiots like you, sir, are obstacles of hindrance. Please crawl back under your rock.

 

[52CANES]

Am I the only one hoping he has Intel that golden might get canned after the bowl. Dare we hope?

as much as i want butch, maybe their just waitin till after the bowl cause they have a pro coach in mind, like that dc from seattle. idk. ima pray for butch today.

Why would the Top nfl head coach candidate come here? I sure hope thats not their plan, because its almost as likely as Saban.

 

[GonzoCane]

The guy takes Goldens spot Monday morning of "bowel week" and lobbies for his job. Yep. Haven't had a set of balls on a coach in over a decade. It's refreshing. Of course, we have the small issue of the UM administrations appearing like it doesn't want a coach with a pair of cajones.... That's another issue.

 

[Eyhr]

Butch would have Miami in the ACC championship in year two, and very likely in the playoffs by year 4-5. Fact is, he's never being hired here again and it sucks. Our best hope is that whoever the BOT hires has different priorities than Shalllllllala, he (or she) gets rid of James, and we luck into the next Butch. The past has proven that Butch Davis is not the only person that can win big here, we just need the right person to find the next man up.

Why, exactly, would you want to gamble on finding the next Butch, when you can get the real thing?

You're new here, probably a coach's wife, or family member of the extended Al Golden family - but **** - don't make it so obvious by suggesting Butch can't get hired at UM.

Hiring that fat ***** is the one of the three worst things that has ever happened to this program.

I WANT Butch, it's just not going to happen. I'm not the one not hiring him.

 

[nycane]

butch also said how he enjoyed building something up. basically telling UM he is mentally prepared for this.

 

[cubin10]

I admit it, I am Butch slurper.

 

[Canesfan1899]

butch also said how he enjoyed building something up. basically telling UM he is mentally prepared for this.

I honestly don't think this is that big of a rebuild. There is talent all over the roster, it just needs to be coached up.

 

[BigDikCane]

This is like when Leach was begging for the job...

Except that Butch was an NFL head coach, NFL champion coordinator, built the greatest team in college history, generated more first rounders than any coach ever, while Mike Leach is 3-9 in his third year at Wazzou, and never won **** in his life. Yes, real similar.

Here comes the Golden D**k Slurpers... What I meant you piece of issh, was that both are coming off scandals and are basically begging to come coach my team.. Now go s**k on doritos ****...

 

[tampacane21]

Reality is Butch Davis will not be hired as HC at Miami until Shalala is gone. Shalala will not hire a HC knowing she is out the doors after the school year. She would not appreicate someone throwing a new HC on her and she won't do it to her replacement.

 

[Klamalama]

Reality is Butch Davis will not be hired as HC at Miami until Shalala is gone. Shalala will not hire a HC knowing she is out the doors after the school year. She would not appreciate someone throwing a new HC on her and she won't do it to her replacement.

Another slurper Red Herring.

No one cares about what Donna appreciates, or doesn't. Her legacy is under a "cloud". Why is this Donna's call? I believe it's the BOT's call, 100%.

1. Donna is heading for the exit. She has no clout with the BOT, on this fact alone. Why would the BOT let an outgoing failure make another bad call.
2. Donna doesn't care about putting out the effort for a good hire (and, simply lacks the judgement) - proven by history (Eichorst, Flake, Shannon, Goldie). She'll have no say in any HC matter.
3. The needs of the University supersede hers.
4. The BOT will direct her in what to say and when. If she doesn't like it, they'll start her vacation early. Flake Puppet can handle the chore with a written script.
5. Unless they intend on hiring a football savvy President (highly doubtful), he/she isn't going to care who the HC is. Even if they do, the new HC will be in place.
6. Timing is everything. The BOT should be lined up in front of a firing squad if they let the present situation stew for another year. They will lose the fan base, the asses in seats, and their money.

 

[Rellyrell]

u know who doenst want butch back at UM? Nick Saban. he knows that is one man and one program that can challenge his dominance.

I'm not sure about Saban, but I know **** well Jimbo is happy we still have Golden ****ting the bed for us.

You don't suppose Shalala and our AD are taking money under the table from FSU boosters, do you?

No other explanation for keeping Golden. He's been FSU's biggest asset.

all my fsu friends call and they literally are begging that we switch to adidas and keep golden...they said our admin is going to keep fsu the most dominant team in florida and they are so please w/ all of the decisions we've made to help their school. literally they said this two days ago and they remind me once a week of the swell job golden has done for their program.

 

[tampacane21]

How am I a "slurper"? I want Golden gone as bad as anyone but I understand how businesses are run and college football is a business.

Let me explain how your points are wrong and this is not only my opinion but by the actions we are seeing.

1) She has no clout with the board? Ok, if so why is Golden still here? Majority of the board does not want Golden any longer but ultimately this is her call. Period. She is in charge and will not make a decision on the HC, she will wait for the next President to do this. She is spending time on other parts of her job and does not want to spend time with the HC of football. Again, if I'm wrong, why is Golden still here? Because of our record?
2) Exactly, your proving what I'm saying. She does not want to spend time with the HC of football.
3) You must not know any CEO or President of a company. They have huge ego's....it's all about them. I'm not sure of Shalala's next goal (maybe something in politics) but she is not worried about the record of our football program. She is worried about graduation rates and moving herself as far away from the scandal we went through.
4) You are completely wrong here. Again, the board would prefer Golden gone now but will not happen.
5) You really believe a HC will be hired within months of a new President coming in? Sadly you are mistaken. Why do you think Golden has already been told his job was safe? I mean who is backing him other than the President? The board? The fan base? The local media? Who is keeping Golden here?
6) Asses in seats???? Do you go to games? The only people currently going are the diehards who will continue to go, some current students, and fans that don't live in the area and travel to Miami for a vacation and go to the game as part of that.

I 100% want Golden gone and cannot stand his passive approach. I want a coach who is constantly attacking and playing to win and not to lose but I understand business and how it is run. You can disagree with me all you want but no fact is showing your right.

Reality is Butch Davis will not be hired as HC at Miami until Shalala is gone. Shalala will not hire a HC knowing she is out the doors after the school year. She would not appreciate someone throwing a new HC on her and she won't do it to her replacement.

Another slurper Red Herring.

No one cares about what Donna appreciates, or doesn't. Her legacy is under a "cloud". Why is this Donna's call? I believe it's the BOT's call, 100%.

1. Donna is heading for the exit. She has no clout with the BOT, on this fact alone. Why would the BOT let an outgoing failure make another bad call.
2. Donna doesn't care about putting out the effort for a good hire (and, simply lacks the judgement) - proven by history (Eichorst, Flake, Shannon, Goldie). She'll have no say in any HC matter.
3. The needs of the University supersede hers.
4. The BOT will direct her in what to say and when. If she doesn't like it, they'll start her vacation early. Flake Puppet can handle the chore with a written script.
5. Unless they intend on hiring a football savvy President (highly doubtful), he/she isn't going to care who the HC is. Even if they do, the new HC will be in place.
6. Timing is everything. The BOT should be lined up in front of a firing squad if they let the present situation stew for another year. They will lose the fan base, the asses in seats, and their money.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

How am I a "slurper"? I want Golden gone as bad as anyone but I understand how businesses are run and college football is a business.

Let me explain how your points are wrong and this is not only my opinion but by the actions we are seeing.

1) She has no clout with the board? Ok, if so why is Golden still here? Majority of the board does not want Golden any longer but ultimately this is her call. Period. She is in charge and will not make a decision on the HC, she will wait for the next President to do this. She is spending time on other parts of her job and does not want to spend time with the HC of football. Again, if I'm wrong, why is Golden still here? Because of our record?
2) Exactly, your proving what I'm saying. She does not want to spend time with the HC of football.
3) You must not know any CEO or President of a company. They have huge ego's....it's all about them. I'm not sure of Shalala's next goal (maybe something in politics) but she is not worried about the record of our football program. She is worried about graduation rates and moving herself as far away from the scandal we went through.
4) You are completely wrong here. Again, the board would prefer Golden gone now but will not happen.
5) You really believe a HC will be hired within months of a new President coming in? Sadly you are mistaken. Why do you think Golden has already been told his job was safe? I mean who is backing him other than the President? The board? The fan base? The local media? Who is keeping Golden here?
6) Asses in seats???? Do you go to games? The only people currently going are the diehards who will continue to go, some current students, and fans that don't live in the area and travel to Miami for a vacation and go to the game as part of that.

I 100% want Golden gone and cannot stand his passive approach. I want a coach who is constantly attacking and playing to win and not to lose but I understand business and how it is run. You can disagree with me all you want but no fact is showing your right.

Reality is Butch Davis will not be hired as HC at Miami until Shalala is gone. Shalala will not hire a HC knowing she is out the doors after the school year. She would not appreciate someone throwing a new HC on her and she won't do it to her replacement.

Another slurper Red Herring.

No one cares about what Donna appreciates, or doesn't. Her legacy is under a "cloud". Why is this Donna's call? I believe it's the BOT's call, 100%.

1. Donna is heading for the exit. She has no clout with the BOT, on this fact alone. Why would the BOT let an outgoing failure make another bad call.
2. Donna doesn't care about putting out the effort for a good hire (and, simply lacks the judgement) - proven by history (Eichorst, Flake, Shannon, Goldie). She'll have no say in any HC matter.
3. The needs of the University supersede hers.
4. The BOT will direct her in what to say and when. If she doesn't like it, they'll start her vacation early. Flake Puppet can handle the chore with a written script.
5. Unless they intend on hiring a football savvy President (highly doubtful), he/she isn't going to care who the HC is. Even if they do, the new HC will be in place.
6. Timing is everything. The BOT should be lined up in front of a firing squad if they let the present situation stew for another year. They will lose the fan base, the asses in seats, and their money.

1. Golden is still here because of a buyout, indifference, and other behind the scenes components. It is not solely her call and since her mother died she is asleep at the wheel and cares less about football than before. Donna Shalala hates Golden more than most. He still has some ardent supporters on the BOT. The end.

2. Yes.

3. At least until the last day of the semester, Donna Shalala had not been on campus since her mother's death. She missed the Edna Shalala 5K. Ego and such comes in to play but as of right now she is in a deep state of depression as far as I know.

4. DONNA SHALALA IS NOT INVOLVED AT MIAMI RIGHT NOW. She is playing literally zero role because she hasn't been at school.

5. Donna Shalala hates Al Golden. Make no mistake about it. A few high level boosters, BOT members, and his buyout are keeping Al Golden at Miami.

6. A lot of people may not go but a ton of money is still pumped into the program. Retaining Golden will kill nearly all of that flow.

 

[Hurracanes]

How am I a "slurper"? I want Golden gone as bad as anyone but I understand how businesses are run and college football is a business.

Let me explain how your points are wrong and this is not only my opinion but by the actions we are seeing.

1) She has no clout with the board? Ok, if so why is Golden still here? Majority of the board does not want Golden any longer but ultimately this is her call. Period. She is in charge and will not make a decision on the HC, she will wait for the next President to do this. She is spending time on other parts of her job and does not want to spend time with the HC of football. Again, if I'm wrong, why is Golden still here? Because of our record?
2) Exactly, your proving what I'm saying. She does not want to spend time with the HC of football.
3) You must not know any CEO or President of a company. They have huge ego's....it's all about them. I'm not sure of Shalala's next goal (maybe something in politics) but she is not worried about the record of our football program. She is worried about graduation rates and moving herself as far away from the scandal we went through.
4) You are completely wrong here. Again, the board would prefer Golden gone now but will not happen.
5) You really believe a HC will be hired within months of a new President coming in? Sadly you are mistaken. Why do you think Golden has already been told his job was safe? I mean who is backing him other than the President? The board? The fan base? The local media? Who is keeping Golden here?
6) Asses in seats???? Do you go to games? The only people currently going are the diehards who will continue to go, some current students, and fans that don't live in the area and travel to Miami for a vacation and go to the game as part of that.

I 100% want Golden gone and cannot stand his passive approach. I want a coach who is constantly attacking and playing to win and not to lose but I understand business and how it is run. You can disagree with me all you want but no fact is showing your right.

Reality is Butch Davis will not be hired as HC at Miami until Shalala is gone. Shalala will not hire a HC knowing she is out the doors after the school year. She would not appreciate someone throwing a new HC on her and she won't do it to her replacement.

Another slurper Red Herring.

No one cares about what Donna appreciates, or doesn't. Her legacy is under a "cloud". Why is this Donna's call? I believe it's the BOT's call, 100%.

1. Donna is heading for the exit. She has no clout with the BOT, on this fact alone. Why would the BOT let an outgoing failure make another bad call.
2. Donna doesn't care about putting out the effort for a good hire (and, simply lacks the judgement) - proven by history (Eichorst, Flake, Shannon, Goldie). She'll have no say in any HC matter.
3. The needs of the University supersede hers.
4. The BOT will direct her in what to say and when. If she doesn't like it, they'll start her vacation early. Flake Puppet can handle the chore with a written script.
5. Unless they intend on hiring a football savvy President (highly doubtful), he/she isn't going to care who the HC is. Even if they do, the new HC will be in place.
6. Timing is everything. The BOT should be lined up in front of a firing squad if they let the present situation stew for another year. They will lose the fan base, the asses in seats, and their money.

1. Golden is still here because of a buyout, indifference, and other behind the scenes components. It is not solely her call and since her mother died she is asleep at the wheel and cares less about football than before. Donna Shalala hates Golden more than most. He still has some ardent supporters on the BOT. The end.

2. Yes.

3. At least until the last day of the semester, Donna Shalala had not been on campus since her mother's death. She missed the Edna Shalala 5K. Ego and such comes in to play but as of right now she is in a deep state of depression as far as I know.

4. DONNA SHALALA IS NOT INVOLVED AT MIAMI RIGHT NOW. She is playing literally zero role because she hasn't been at school.

5. Donna Shalala hates Al Golden. Make no mistake about it. A few high level boosters, BOT members, and his buyout are keeping Al Golden at Miami.

6. A lot of people may not go but a ton of money is still pumped into the program. Retaining Golden will kill nearly all of that flow.

Is UM not afraid of losing money from donors and season ticket holders? Are they not looking at what damage they are doing to this program in the long term by retaining *** as a coach?