"Butch can't carry Saban's jockstrap"?

Saban is a better coach then Butch no doubt, at evals they r both the top of the food chain

Tell me how is Saban good at "evals?"

It's not hard to see that a kid has 5 stars on rivals and then drop a bag. That's not an "eval"

Do you honestly think Butch Davis has a clean record behind the scenes?

I know that Butch Davis didn't use Rivals to evaluate recruits.

And you don't know that Saban does either. STFU. SMH
 
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Hold on...

Isn't it a common opinion on here that recruits immediately get a bump in rating/stars when they receive and Alabama offer?

So how the **** does that happen if Saban is just "throwing bags at 5-stars"?
 
Alabama: 69 out of the 84 players on their roster were either 4 or 5 stars in high school. The rest were mostly punters and fullbacks.

That's 82% of their entire roster that's 4/5 star kids.


How is it impressive in any way to win with that kind of stacked talent? How does Nick Saban get credit in your eyes as a talent evaluator?

Alabama is a recruiting machine. That's why they win. It's not coaching, and it's not evaluation.

1. Saban is responsible for bringing in that talent. Did he have that type of talent when he won an NC at LSU?

2. Saban went 12-2 his second year at Alabama and 14-0 his third year. That's immediate impact, much too soon for his "bought players" to make a legitimate difference.

1.) If he didn't, then he's not the recruiter you claim he is. If he did, then he's not the coach you claim he is.

2.) Three years of buying players is enough to completely overturn the roster.
 
Jimbo Fisher
Kirby Smart
Mark Dantonio

All are head coaches of top level programs.

Jeremy Pruitt is one of the best defensive minds in college football and an up-and-coming head coach.

Bill Belichick is the best football coach in the world.



You people are delusional.

Hold up, so you're going to talk about Bill Belichick? Nick Saban worked FOR Bill Belichick, not the other way around. OK, if we're counting backward, then Butch Davis gets to claim Jimmy Johnson.

Who's a better coach, Belichick or Jimmy Johnson? They are both hall of fame coaches.

So as far as who worked under them, I've listed 3 NFL head coaches that worked for Butch as well as 4 NCAA head coaches. Someone came along after me and added a couple more names.

Saban has a couple college coaches. A couple of them, Fisher and Dantonio, are nice coaches. Smart and Pruitt haven't done **** yet so don't try to talk them up.

Objectively, Butch's coaching tree is just better. More of them, and NFL = more impressive than college.

Dude...

SMH

I can't. LOL

Then don't. Stop white knighting for Nick ******* Saban and walk away with your dignity.
 
1. Saban is responsible for bringing in that talent. Did he have that type of talent when he won an NC at LSU?

2. Saban went 12-2 his second year at Alabama and 14-0 his third year. That's immediate impact, much too soon for his "bought players" to make a legitimate difference.

Saban had talent when He took over both programs...Saban went 12-2 & 14-0 with the players Shula left behind.
 
Saban is a better coach then Butch no doubt, at evals they r both the top of the food chain

Tell me how is Saban good at "evals?"

It's not hard to see that a kid has 5 stars on rivals and then drop a bag. That's not an "eval"

Do you honestly think Butch Davis has a clean record behind the scenes?

I know that Butch Davis didn't use Rivals to evaluate recruits.

And you don't know that Saban does either. STFU. SMH

Saban evaluates he doesnt go by rankings.....alot of the time he finds a player before there even ranked.
 
Tell me how is Saban good at "evals?"

It's not hard to see that a kid has 5 stars on rivals and then drop a bag. That's not an "eval"

Do you honestly think Butch Davis has a clean record behind the scenes?

I know that Butch Davis didn't use Rivals to evaluate recruits.

And you don't know that Saban does either. STFU. SMH

Saban evaluates he doesnt go by rankings.....alot of the time he finds a player before there even ranked.

LMAO no
 
Hold on...

Isn't it a common opinion on here that recruits immediately get a bump in rating/stars when they receive and Alabama offer?

So how the **** does that happen if Saban is just "throwing bags at 5-stars"?

Alabaga is one of the premier locations for a college football corch. Just count their rings before saban. They were already a top notch destination.

Stay off his dcik. Let me know when saban puts together the undisputed "Greatest team in College Football History". With all those fvckin bags being dropped.

How many bags did Butch get dropped for him when he was here? ZERO But somehow he put that team together.

Butch took the ******* Cleveland Browns to the playoffs. At least keep it real.
 
Do you honestly think Butch Davis has a clean record behind the scenes?

I know that Butch Davis didn't use Rivals to evaluate recruits.

And you don't know that Saban does either. STFU. SMH

Saban evaluates he doesnt go by rankings.....alot of the time he finds a player before there even ranked.

LMAO no

Have u ever seen on here on this very forum people say "oh he going to bama he will get a star increase" that tells u right there saban found someone and they re evaluate cuz the sites missed on em
 
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I know that Butch Davis didn't use Rivals to evaluate recruits.

And you don't know that Saban does either. STFU. SMH

Saban evaluates he doesnt go by rankings.....alot of the time he finds a player before there even ranked.

LMAO no

Have u ever seen on here on this very forum people say "oh he going to bama he will get a star increase" that tells u right there saban found someone and they re evaluate cuz the sites missed on em

Nick Saban doesn't find anybody. Alabama has a recruiting staff of 97 people... no joke. A lot of ex coaches, high school coaches, and scouts who dig around and do all the work so that Nick Saban can take credit for it.

But mostly, they offer guys who are already highly rated.
 
And you don't know that Saban does either. STFU. SMH

Saban evaluates he doesnt go by rankings.....alot of the time he finds a player before there even ranked.

LMAO no

Have u ever seen on here on this very forum people say "oh he going to bama he will get a star increase" that tells u right there saban found someone and they re evaluate cuz the sites missed on em

Nick Saban doesn't find anybody. Alabama has a recruiting staff of 97 people... no joke. A lot of ex coaches, high school coaches, and scouts who dig around and do all the work so that Nick Saban can take credit for it.

But mostly, they offer guys who are already highly rated.

When Butch was at UNC, which future NFL draft licks did he find that werent highly rated?
 
Saban evaluates he doesnt go by rankings.....alot of the time he finds a player before there even ranked.

LMAO no

Have u ever seen on here on this very forum people say "oh he going to bama he will get a star increase" that tells u right there saban found someone and they re evaluate cuz the sites missed on em

Nick Saban doesn't find anybody. Alabama has a recruiting staff of 97 people... no joke. A lot of ex coaches, high school coaches, and scouts who dig around and do all the work so that Nick Saban can take credit for it.

But mostly, they offer guys who are already highly rated.

When Butch was at UNC, which future NFL draft licks did he find that werent highly rated?

Who gives a ****? This ain't a UNC message board.
 

Have u ever seen on here on this very forum people say "oh he going to bama he will get a star increase" that tells u right there saban found someone and they re evaluate cuz the sites missed on em

Nick Saban doesn't find anybody. Alabama has a recruiting staff of 97 people... no joke. A lot of ex coaches, high school coaches, and scouts who dig around and do all the work so that Nick Saban can take credit for it.

But mostly, they offer guys who are already highly rated.

When Butch was at UNC, which future NFL draft licks did he find that werent highly rated?

Who gives a ****? This ain't a UNC message board.

You do. You keep claiming that saban recruits from rivals, which didnt exist when Butch was at Miami. So when Butch was at UNC, and rivals was the top recruiting service, who were those stars he “evaluated” that werent just highly rated high school prospects?

Is this shtick or are you actually retarded? Learning disability?
 
Have u ever seen on here on this very forum people say "oh he going to bama he will get a star increase" that tells u right there saban found someone and they re evaluate cuz the sites missed on em

Nick Saban doesn't find anybody. Alabama has a recruiting staff of 97 people... no joke. A lot of ex coaches, high school coaches, and scouts who dig around and do all the work so that Nick Saban can take credit for it.

But mostly, they offer guys who are already highly rated.

When Butch was at UNC, which future NFL draft licks did he find that werent highly rated?

Who gives a ****? This ain't a UNC message board.

You do. You keep claiming that saban recruits from rivals, which didnt exist when Butch was at Miami. So when Butch was at UNC, and rivals was the top recruiting service, who were those stars he “evaluated” that werent just highly rated high school prospects?

Is this shtick or are you actually retarded? Learning disability?

But I don't care. You think I'm trying to talk Butch up. I'm not. I have zero ***** to give about Butch Davis except for the fact that he is a former Cane. If you want to have a discussion about Butch Davis, talk to someone else. I was a Richt supporter before you were.

I'm here in this thread because I hate Nick Saban. I think he's an overrated POS. That's my only interest here.
 
Nick Saban doesn't find anybody. Alabama has a recruiting staff of 97 people... no joke. A lot of ex coaches, high school coaches, and scouts who dig around and do all the work so that Nick Saban can take credit for it.

But mostly, they offer guys who are already highly rated.

When Butch was at UNC, which future NFL draft licks did he find that werent highly rated?

Who gives a ****? This ain't a UNC message board.

You do. You keep claiming that saban recruits from rivals, which didnt exist when Butch was at Miami. So when Butch was at UNC, and rivals was the top recruiting service, who were those stars he “evaluated” that werent just highly rated high school prospects?

Is this shtick or are you actually retarded? Learning disability?

But I don't care. You think I'm trying to talk Butch up. I'm not. I have zero ****s to give about Butch Davis except for the fact that he is a former Cane. If you want to have a discussion about Butch Davis, talk to someone else. I was a Richt supporter before you were.

I'm here in this thread because I hate Nick Saban. I think he's an overrated POS. That's my only interest here.

OK, so you have absolutely zero facts in support of your idiotic position. Typical.
 
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I wanted Butch back but you cant hate on saban. Butch is as good as anyone at finding and developign talent. he started to win because the talent was overwhelming, but he was no where near as good a gameday x and o coach as saban.
 
Jimbo Fisher
Kirby Smart
Mark Dantonio

All are head coaches of top level programs.

Jeremy Pruitt is one of the best defensive minds in college football and an up-and-coming head coach.

Bill Belichick is the best football coach in the world.



You people are delusional.

Hold up, so you're going to talk about Bill Belichick? Nick Saban worked FOR Bill Belichick, not the other way around. OK, if we're counting backward, then Butch Davis gets to claim Jimmy Johnson.

Who's a better coach, Belichick or Jimmy Johnson? They are both hall of fame coaches.

So as far as who worked under them, I've listed 3 NFL head coaches that worked for Butch as well as 4 NCAA head coaches. Someone came along after me and added a couple more names.

Saban has a couple college coaches. A couple of them, Fisher and Dantonio, are nice coaches. Smart and Pruitt haven't done **** yet so don't try to talk them up.

Objectively, Butch's coaching tree is just better. More of them, and NFL = more impressive than college.

Dude...

SMH

I can't. LOL

Then don't. Stop white knighting for Nick ******* Saban and walk away with your dignity.

Walk away with my dignity? LMAO

Oh boy. You're special.
 
1. Saban is responsible for bringing in that talent. Did he have that type of talent when he won an NC at LSU?

2. Saban went 12-2 his second year at Alabama and 14-0 his third year. That's immediate impact, much too soon for his "bought players" to make a legitimate difference.

Saban had talent when He took over both programs...Saban went 12-2 & 14-0 with the players Shula left behind.

You're saying Shula assembled a national championship roster and Saban had an easy road to success?


LOL. Man this is comical.
 
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