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NFL Brian Flores Suing NFL for Discrimination

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Bender said:
So you dont care what record he has, then put the record in perspective and then mention the record vs the Bills...
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I care whether they make the playoffs which they had an opportunity to do in years 2 and 3 and instead got embarrassed.
 
Bender said:
Well, if you have a continous chest ache, you get your heart tested.

There are tons of players in retirement where you can literally hear that they have an underlying issue at hand.
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This isn't about whether it exists or not, it's about how prevalent it is and the study that came out is flawed. It obviously exists.
 
TimeBum said:
It's supposed to be a meritocracy. We all know it isn't. So giving owners a fig leaf to show they aren't racists is silly. Owners have no financial incentive to actually hire a minority candidate, they have an incentive to do pretend interviews. Everything else stays the same, can still pre-identify and select a non minority HC, as long as you put on the minstrel show and have minority coaches dress up and do make believe interviews. If the goal is to have more minority coaches, then incentivize the outcome. Teams that don't hire minority coaches get fined and money goes to teams with minority coaches. Both my method and the Rooney Rule are trying to address the same problem, unfortunately the latter option just puts some window dressing on the hiring process but results in the same outcome as before.
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Having minority coaches is incentivized, if they get hired as HCs, the team that loses them gets draft picks.
 
P-Tizzle said:
my man, I'm not saying the evidence proves discrimination, but the allegations certainly fall under discrimination.

The NFL has a policy that teams must interview (in good faith) minority candidates for upper management positions including HC. Days before Flores (a minority candidate) was to be interviewed by an NFL team, the NFL team had already made a decision to hire a non-minority candidate.

I'm not saying that the allegations are true, but the allegations certainly fall under discrimination/racism as a failure to obey the Rooney Rule. If you can't see how the allegations at least fall under discrimination, then there's no need to have any more conversation between us about this.
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So if there were other white candidates that interviewed for no reason after they supposedly made up their minds, which is likely, what is their legal recourse since they can’t claim racial discrimination?
Your argument assumes Flores, the minority, was the only one who wasn’t seriously considered for the job, and only whites were. If that’s true I agree with you, but I highly doubt that is the case
 
407cane said:
The giants thing will stir up a bunch of noise but him to try and prove racism in this case (in the law setting at least) is a far cry.

Most managers/owners know WHO they are going to hire before they start the interview process or at least have a favorite candidate, in every industry. Almost would be slacking if they didn't


paying flores to lose and the deshaun watson thing might be IT for stephen ross to try and sell the team or be forced to
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BINGO on everything you said.
 
If there is anything at all that proves Ross making those claims things will go nuclear .... This is beyond bad if true...
 
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JD08 said:
This isn't about whether it exists or not, it's about how prevalent it is and the study that came out is flawed. It obviously exists.
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The study was made to demonstrate that playing football is connected to long-term injuries. If you see a flaw by concluding that the issue exists, okay...
 
Had the timing of everything worked out differently, Flores coulda made a good UM Head Coach a couple months ago.
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
I disagree. When you buy a team you agree to follow their rules. Just like living in the country you agree to follow their rules. I was just wondering if the guy only agree with breaking rules he didn't like or if he was a full on anarchist.
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Break a company rule you can be fired - break a law you should go to jail. I feel it is apples and oranges. Now if you want to argue the Giants should have repercussions because they did not follow company policies then I am with you. I guess I just think your analogy is too severe. Not really worth arguing about.
 
Miami[]_[]Smoke said:
So if there were other white candidates that interviewed for no reason after they supposedly made up their minds, which is likely, what is their legal recourse since they can’t claim racial discrimination?
Your argument assumes Flores, the minority, was the only one who wasn’t seriously considered for the job, and only whites were. If that’s true I agree with you, but I highly doubt that is the case
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Okay, prove your allegations that "I highly doubt that is the case" because as of right now, Flores has evidence that the Giants abused the Rooney Rule. You're up now, bud. Whatcha got?
 
JaxonCane said:
Break a company rule you can be fired - break a law you should go to jail. I feel it is apples and oranges. Now if you want to argue the Giants should have repercussions because they did not follow company policies then I am with you. I guess I just think your analogy is too severe. Not really worth arguing about.
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I disagree, but like you said its not worth arguing about. When you work for a company you agree to follow their rules.
 
Miami[]_[]Smoke said:
So if there were other white candidates that interviewed for no reason after they supposedly made up their minds, which is likely, what is their legal recourse since they can’t claim racial discrimination?
Your argument assumes Flores, the minority, was the only one who wasn’t seriously considered for the job, and only whites were. If that’s true I agree with you, but I highly doubt that is the case
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You dont seem to understand that the Giants were only interviewing Flores to satisty the Rooney Rule. Which makes the entire point that you entirely irrelevant.
 
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JaxonCane said:
How is it racism because they hired the guy they wanted? Just because he wasn't black they are automatically racist? We use that word way to liberally. And this is from a guy who wanted them to hire Flo!!! But I also understand people like the hot new thing not the guy who just got let go.
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ITS RACIST BECAUSE THEY HIRED THE GUY THEY WANTED WITHOUT INTERVIEWING ONE BLACK COACH BEFORE.

SEE HOW THAT WORKS? YOU CAN HIRE WHOEVER YOU WANT BUT THE V RULES SAY YOU MUST AT LEAST GIVE A BLACK COACH AN INTERVIEW.
 
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