Brenden Sorsby- The Gambling Addiction

That is how these cases, and many, many cases have been playing out. And it isn’t limited to the NC2A.

Think of all the “political” cases that are filed against a national law and are decided by an injunction by one federal judge. The republicans have successfully brought a number of cases before one specific federal judge in Texas. And I’m sure the democrats have their favorites as well. But this only works in single judge federal districts because it is the only way to be certain who the judge will be as cases are randomly assigned within a jurisdiction. As an example, Fulton County, Ga has something like 20 Superior Court Judges. So if an attorney files a case in Fulton County, the cases is literally assigned to the next judge on the “wheel”. And it truly is that random. And the Northern District of Georgia has around 20 federal judges as well who are randomly assigned. Not good odds either way for “judge shopping”.

Sorsby attorneys will most certainly go “venue shopping”. They can’t guarantee which judge within the county (State judges) or district (federal judges) will be assigned to the case, but that may not matter much in a place like Lubbock. If I was the attorney I would probably file in State court as those judges are typically elected and I would want someone who has to face an election. It adds to the pressure on the judge.

Unless Lubbock is in a one-judge federal district as then I would know exactly who will be assigned if its a federal case.

But back to your point, yes. One judge can grant an injunction.


I would also add...on a preliminary injunction, there is SUPPOSED to be a finding by the judge that the applicant is likely to succeed on the merits. Of course, as we both know, this is a slippery standard that depends on the opinion of the judge.

But logically speaking, "gambling on one's own games" is one of the very few areas where the NCAA has rarely, if ever, overstepped its bounds (or been found to have overstepped by a court of law).

As such, if the judge was TRULY being honest with himself/herself, it would almost certtainly be a "no" answer to the question of whether the applicant is likely to succeed on the merits.

Just my 2 cents.
 
They’re quite clear.

The angle they’re taking is that his addiction was essentially debilitating, grey zone for enforcement, etc.

The reality is this type of addiction is not resolved with a few months of rehab or treatment. He also committed clear violations. TTech and him were trying to get ahead of it and are now trying to play the sympathy card. Kid should not play a down of CFB again.


Yes, and if this approach works, there will be attorneys LINING UP to use the "addiction defense" in a wide variety of cases, especially DUIs....
 
Sorbsy was a microbetting addict but only a small percentage of bets on NCAAF games or games involving the program he was involved in. IIRC none at Cincinatti and only during his redshirt year at IU.


OK, let's just dismiss and forgive a violation of the ONE INVIOLABLE RULE of athletics, because Sorsby's "microbetting" watered down the bets on his own team to "only a small percentage"...

Yeah, makes sense...the worst behavior pales in comparison to ALL THE OTHER MERELY BAD **** HE WAS DOING.
 
That is irrelevant ……… if the NFL was going to take enforcement based on collegiate / NCAA punishments they would’ve done as such despite him being a camp body. Same goes for Iowa DT Noah Shannon who was a training camp invite for the Raiders.

Plenty of players dismissed from colleges or who have broken NCAA rules have had no punishment when they’ve gotten to the NFL.

Dekkers’ teammate, Eyioma, bet on college and NFL games and was suspended for a year then reinstated.





Uwazurike has already played two seasons since his suspension and Sorsby bet on less of his own games and played in none of them.



Ridley and Sorsby both bet on their own games while not playing in them but somehow because Sorsby is a gambling addict he should never be allowed to play in the NFL……huh? There are dozens of players in the NFL who gamble on other sports as often as Sorsby; none of which have checked in rehab.

The NCAA has allowed players who bet on non-self-participating sports, even if they were apart of the same university, to play after suspensions as well: DeShawn Hanika for example; who will be at the Colts rookie minicamp.



Your opinion is your opinion. Don’t care to argue over our differences there. Sorsby isn’t going to be banned from playing professional football. That’s just a fact.



Oh, ****, @Bender , you just got COOKIED!

You got swarmed by a ton of selective quotes and responses with bolded words...
 
One potential fix to help reduce issues with college athletes and sports betting is for ALL states to prohibit betting on all in-state college programs. Only a limited number of states currently have this restriction in place, including New Jersey, Illinois, New York, Virginia, Washington, Delaware, Maine, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, and Washington, D.C.

At the end of the day, you're never going to fully prevent athletes from betting on sports. With all the different betting platforms out there, it has become incredibly easy. The reality is that almost all of these college athletes sport bet
 
Oh, ****, @Bender , you just got COOKIED!

You got swarmed by a ton of selective quotes and responses with bolded words...
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No, they have a choice. This guy has admitted to having a problem. He bet on his own teams games. There is no way he has the trust of his teammates...

Curious - why wouldn’t he have the trust of his teammates unless there was some indicator he deliberately sabotaged games? If my teammate was always betting that we’d win outright, I’d think “he’s got so much confidence in us winning that he’s putting his money on the line.” Now if I suspected he ever bet against us like taking the other team to cover, or even taking prop bets like number of TDs thrown in a quarter I’d want him off the team because he could changing plays to make sure he wins his prop bet. But honestly, if the situation was that a teammate always bet on us to win, I personally wouldn’t care. As Herm Edwards once said “YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME.” If he’s playing to win the game, the fact that he has money riding on it isn’t going to change the outcome.

Another way to look at - let’s say he a friendly rivalry with a player on the other team. instead of a sports book he bets the other player that the loser has to wear a dress and buy the winner a big steak dinner. It’s just friends breaking each others balls. Technically that bet is gambling. But if you were his teammate, would you distrust him because of the “bet”?

So with Sorsby, I be interested in knowing what he was betting. If he was just betting on his team to win, I wouldn’t have a problem with it.
 
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OK, let's just dismiss and forgive a violation of the ONE INVIOLABLE RULE of athletics, because Sorsby's "microbetting" watered down the bets on his own team to "only a small percentage"...

Yeah, makes sense...the worst behavior pales in comparison to ALL THE OTHER MERELY BAD **** HE WAS DOING.

didn’t write anything about calling for forgiveness and fast-tracking at his attempt to return to college. Didn’t write anything close to ‘let’s just ________.’

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I pushed back on two fronts: that this was an unprecedented NFL case (Calvin Ridley, Noah Shannon, Isaiah Rodgers, etc) and that a permanent-Pete Rose-esque ban from the NFL was remotely possible.

The example of fringe roster players getting waived and signed multiple times cannot be dismissed because as the NFL made apparent when they suspended Eyioma Uwazurike, he was suspended for betting on his own NFL team—his hundreds of Iowa State college bets, including on his own team, and ensuing legal battles to get the charges dismissed had no bearing on how severe the suspension was.

In fact, he played and practiced while the legal battles were ongoing. Thus, his teammates or rivals (Iowa football players) invited to minicamps/practice squads w/o any punishment was made irrespective of their potential to make it or not. They weren’t ever going to punish them and his collegiate and NFL bets on his own team were more numerous than those of Sorbsy.

The Iowa criminal investigations were announced months before the NFL suspension and his collegiate activities were not included in the reasoning for why he was suspended by the NFL.

The NCAA has alllowed multiple of the players from the Iowa/Iowa State gambling suspensions return to various college football programs as football staffers; in one case where a suspended player didn’t bet on his own team, he transferred to Kansas where he finished his collegiate career; and the NCAA has changed their betting guidelines to more lenient after this was over and done with.

I can only imagine the amount of staffers who have been suspended for gambling at both levels.

Additionally, there are near a dozen examples of players being suspended and reinstated for gambling in NFL however not on their own teams. They even decreased Jameson Williams’ suspension from four to six weeks in this category.
 
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didn’t write anything about calling for forgiveness and fast-tracking at his attempt to return to college. Didn’t write anything close to ‘let’s just ________.’

I pushed back on two fronts: that this was an unprecedented NFL case (Calvin Ridley, Noah Shannon, Isaiah Rodgers, etc) and that a permanent-Pete Rose-esque ban from the NFL was remotely possible.

The example of fringe roster players getting waived and signed multiple times cannot be dismissed because as the NFL made apparent when they suspended Eyioma Uwazurike, he was suspended for betting on his own NFL team—his hundreds of Iowa State college bets, including on his own team, and ensuing legal battles to get the charges dismissed had no bearing on how severe the suspension was.

In fact, he played and practiced while the legal battles were ongoing. Thus, his teammates or rivals (Iowa football players) invited to minicamps/practice squads w/o any punishment was made irrespective of their potential to make it or not. They weren’t ever going to punish them and his collegiate and NFL bets on his own team were more numerous than those of Sorbsy.

The Iowa criminal investigations were announced months before the NFL suspension and his collegiate activities were not included in the reasoning for why he was suspended by the NFL.

The NCAA has alllowed multiple of the players from the Iowa/Iowa State gambling suspensions return to various college football programs as football staffers; in one case where a suspended player didn’t bet on his own team, he transferred to Kansas where he finished his collegiate career; and the NCAA has changed their betting guidelines to more lenient after this was over and done with.

I can only imagine the amount of staffers who have been suspended for gambling at both levels.

Additionally, there are near a dozen examples of players being suspended and reinstated for gambling in NFL however not on their own teams. They even decreased Jameson Williams’ suspension from four to six weeks in this category.



This bull**** is why everyone hates you.

I responded to ONE of your posts. Not ALL of your posts ever.

I don't give a **** what you typed in other places. Your words are your words. You wrote the following:

"Sorbsy was a microbetting addict but only a small percentage of bets on NCAAF games or games involving the program he was involved in. IIRC none at Cincinatti and only during his redshirt year at IU."

Nobody has to read every word you've ever written to understand your twisted logic and demented rationalizations. You used words like "microbetting" and "only a small percentage" and "only during his redshirt year" to minimize what Sorsby did.

THAT is what is being criticized. Perhaps if you were more honest with yourself about what you type, you would not waste everyone's time with copying-and-pasting all of the "other things" you wrote elsewhere.

You continue to be resistant to just shutting up and acknowledging "yeah, I said something really ridiculous there, I was wrong".

Nobody is criticizing everything you write, but anyone will take issue with the absolutely stupid things that you write.

Grow up. And stop copy-pasting different posts you wrote at different times in order to unsuccessfully rebut valid criticism of the ****tiest of your ****-porsts.
 
This bull**** is why everyone hates you.

I responded to ONE of your posts. Not ALL of your posts ever.

I don't give a **** what you typed in other places. Your words are your words. You wrote the following:

"Sorbsy was a microbetting addict but only a small percentage of bets on NCAAF games or games involving the program he was involved in. IIRC none at Cincinatti and only during his redshirt year at IU."

Nobody has to read every word you've ever written to understand your twisted logic and demented rationalizations. You used words like "microbetting" and "only a small percentage" and "only during his redshirt year" to minimize what Sorsby did.

THAT is what is being criticized. Perhaps if you were more honest with yourself about what you type, you would not waste everyone's time with copying-and-pasting all of the "other things" you wrote elsewhere.

You continue to be resistant to just shutting up and acknowledging "yeah, I said something really ridiculous there, I was wrong".

Nobody is criticizing everything you write, but anyone will take issue with the absolutely stupid things that you write.

Grow up. And stop copy-pasting different posts you wrote at different times in order to unsuccessfully rebut valid criticism of the ****tiest of your ****-porsts.
Mid mid skip skip, i didn’t read any of that.
 
Mid mid skip skip, i didn’t read none of that


I know you read everything I wrote, you're a narcissist who freaks the **** out whenever anyone criticizes any of your precious words.

As for "skipping", do you really think everyone reads one of your rebuttal posts with 10 copy-pastes in it?

Hilarious.
 
if only there was some structure in place to disincentivize athletes from gambling on their sport / team in the first place.
2 games?!? LOL.

throw the buck at this clown

Brendan Sorsby placed at least 40 bets involving Indiana football as a quarterback for the Hoosiers, used sportsbook accounts registered to a family member and friends to wager approximately $90,000 over four years, and continued to gamble after transferring from Cincinnati to Texas Tech in December, according to court documents filed Friday.
 
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