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Is there an OC that doesn’t use situational tempo? What does that even mean? Even Army uses tempo if the situation requires it.
Do you believe in a team actually playing any defense? You do know that hyper speed offenses leave their defenses hung out to dry right?

Name me the teams who have won a National Championship running no huddle shot gun spread fulltime please!

Is the goal of this team winning championships or simply appeasing your desire for a hyper speed no huddle shotgun spread, while hanging the defense out to dry?
 
Is there an OC that doesn’t use situational tempo? What does that even mean? Even Army uses tempo if the situation requires it.
Gattis didn't lol. But seriously I think it's just that. If we get a quick first down I'm sure he has a set of plays we can run within the first few seconds of spotting the ball to keep the defense off-balance, but constant tempo all the time isn't his M.O. like it is for guys like Lashlee, Babers, et al who wanna run 85+ plays/game no matter what.
 
Do you believe in a team actually playing any defense? You do know that hyper speed offenses leave their defenses hung out to dry right?

Name me the teams who have won a National Championship running no huddle shot gun spread fulltime please!

Is the goal of this team winning championships or simply appeasing your desire for a hyper speed no huddle shotgun spread, while hanging the defense out to dry?
Here you go man. Did the home work for you. Here are the last 22 national champions and not a **** one of them ran full time no huddle. Every last one of them use "situational tempo" and not a single one runs full-time no huddle hyper speed spread. Not a **** one of them!

2022GeorgiaCFP
2021GeorgiaCFP
2020AlabamaCFP
2019LSUCFP
2018ClemsonCFP
2017AlabamaCFP
2016ClemsonCFP
2015AlabamaCFP
2014Ohio StateCFP
2013Florida StateBCS
2012AlabamaBCS
2011AlabamaBCS
2010AuburnBCS
2009AlabamaBCS
2008FloridaBCS
2007LSUBCS
2006FloridaBCS
2005TexasBCS
2004Southern CaliforniaBCS
2003LSU, Southern CaliforniaBCS, AP, FWAA
2002Ohio StateBCS
2001Miami (Fla.)BCS
2000OklahomaBCS

On top of it all, do any of them play a resemblance of defense? What is exactly the reason absolutely no team that runs that type of offense has ever won a championship in college football? Explain this to me since you act like you know more about football than everybody else you are arguing with.

I can go back another 100 years if you want.

I will ask you again. Do you think Mario's goal is to win championships or appease you? Also, is your goal to have a championship winning team or a fancy offense?

I am going to give you a very simple answer to championship winning football that you should abide by with your thought process on O. "Situational time management" on offense is the only way to win CHAMPIONSHIPS due to playing good defense as well, to go along with good offense.
 
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Do you believe in a team actually playing any defense? You do know that hyper speed offenses leave their defenses hung out to dry right?

Name me the teams who have won a National Championship running no huddle shot gun spread fulltime please!

Is the goal of this team winning championships or simply appeasing your desire for a hyper speed no huddle shotgun spread, while hanging the defense out to dry?

Tempo doesn’t hurt your defense.

It perhaps results in more plays being run. So the point total can be higher due to the volume of plays.

But it doesn’t hurt the quality of your defense.

And I can’t really name many teams that have won NCs since teams started going tempo. There haven’t been many, regardless of what they run. It’s basically Alabama or UGA every year.

I’m not sure that says anything about tempo. It really just says if you load your roster with a bunch of 5* players, you can just about run whatever you want.

Tempo would be the perfect cure for Cristobal. Cristobal doesn’t have a reputation as being a great game day coach. He also has a habit of artificially keeping games closer than they should be. Which is why he has some bad upsets every year at Oregon. It’s also why his teams never rank high in the analytics.

Tempo would solve that. Cristobal is the very coach that should be running crazy tempo. Don’t want to get upset by sh*t Stanford or ASU teams? Increase the number of plays being run in the game. It helps to minimize his bad coaching decisions.
 
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Tempo doesn’t hurt your defense.

It perhaps results in more plays being run. So the point total can be higher due to the volume of plays.

Being it doesn’t hurt the quality of your defense.

And I can’t really name many teams that have won NCs since teams started going tempo. There haven’t been many, regardless of what they run. It’s basically Alabama or UGA every year.

I’m not sure that says anything about tempo. It really just says if you load your roster with a bunch of 5* players, you can just about run whatever you want.

Tempo would be the perfect cure for Cristobal. Cristobal doesn’t have a reputation as being a great game day coach. He also has a habit of artificially keeping games closer than they should be. Which is why he has some bad upsets every year at Oregon. It’s also why his teams never rank high in the analytics.

Tempo would solve that. Cristobal is the very coach that should be running crazy tempo. Don’t want to get upset by sh*t Stanford or ASU teams? Increase the number of plays being run in the game. It helps to minimize his bad coaching decisions.
Tempo absolutely hurts your defense. If your offense can't move the chains or scores too quickly, it destroys your defense because they can't stay off the field. That is why most programs who run tempo have ****** defense's..
 
Tempo absolutely hurts your defense. If your offense can't move the chains or scores too quickly, it destroys your defense because they can't stay off the field. That is why most programs who run tempo have ****** defense's..

Most programs that run tempo have **** defenses because they have **** defenses. The first programs to adopt tempo were the ones that needed a schematic competitive advantage, because they sucked.

But it’s not true that it ā€œdestroys your defense.ā€

When you adjust for pace of play, there are teams that run tempo that have fine defenses. Or at least the level of defense within their historical average.

Tennessee had the 48th ranked F+ defense in 2020 (the year before going tempo, and instead running Chaney’s offense that is intended to help out the defense by controlling the line of scrimmage and clock).

55th in 2021.

29th in 2022.

Tempo did not hurt their defense. Their defense actually made a huge improvement as Heupel got his tempo based offensive machine fully clicking.

Which is pretty easy to understand. If tempo gives offenses an advantage, then it’s just as likely to offset whatever bad spots you think it puts the defense in, by completely bombing the other team with points. Thereby taking the team out of what it ideally wants to do. Which makes it easier on your defense.

Forcing Mark Stoops to have to throw the football to keep up with your tempo scoring offense, helps your defense a ton.
 
Also, my point wasn’t to discuss the merits of tempo vs a slower methodical offense. I’m a huge proponent of tempo, especially at Miami, where we should have a huge talent advantage most years against nearly every team on our schedule.

But putting that aside. I only wanted to ask where the idea that he runs anything anybody in the year of our Lord 2023 (or 2024 if going by the article) would consider to be ā€œtempoā€?

Here’s the State of the U’s review of the Houston-Tulane ā€˜22 game:

Dawson and Cristobal both prefer a slowertempo offense than the typical modern style


What game has anybody seen, either at Houston or Southern Miss, that has anything resembling ā€œtempoā€?
 
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Great write up whether people ultimately agree/disagree love/hate the hire etc

Last year with Gattis I think the optimism was speculation. There wasn’t much to grab on to other than his Broyles Award and it was also tough to exactly envision how Gattis would fit in with this team which also had a lot of question marks

With Dawson there’s just more to give us a clearer picture of what to expect. I personally like the hire a lot, especially because it put to rest some long term concerns I had with Mario.

Historically speaking we can expect Mario will far outlast Dawson here so sometimes it’s not just about the hire right now, but does it show that he can continue to analyze, adapt, improve etc

To me that answer seems to be a resounding ā€œyesā€ based on this off-season and I think that’s critical
 
Most programs that run tempo have **** defenses because they have **** defenses. The first programs to adopt tempo were the ones that needed a schematic competitive advantage, because they sucked.

But it’s not true that it ā€œdestroys your defense.ā€

When you adjust for pace of play, there are teams that run tempo that have fine defenses. Or at least the level of defense within their historical average.

Tennessee had the 48th ranked F+ defense in 2020 (the year before going tempo, and instead running Chaney’s offense that is intended to help out the defense by controlling the line of scrimmage and clock).

55th in 2021.

29th in 2022.

Tempo did not hurt their defense. Their defense actually made a huge improvement as Heupel got his tempo based offensive machine fully clicking.

Which is pretty easy to understand. If tempo gives offenses an advantage, then it’s just as likely to offset whatever bad spots you think it puts the defense in, by completely bombing the other team with points. Thereby taking the team out of what it ideally wants to do. Which makes it easier on your defense.

Forcing Mark Stoops to have to throw the football to keep up with your tempo scoring offense, helps your defense a ton.
Below is a list of the 10 fastest teams in 2022 (according to 24/7) with their Defensive rankings (according to NCAA):
Indiana (Total Defense # 119)
SMU (Total Defense #112)
Ole Miss (Total #75)
Georgia State (Total Defense #84)
Oklahoma State (Total Defense #115)
Tennessee (Total Defense #91)
Central Michigan (Total Defense #62)
Texes Tech ( Total Defense # 108)
Georgia Southern (Total Defense #129)
Ball State ( Total Defense #82)

I guess that is a huge coincedence....
 
Below is a list of the 10 fastest teams in 2022 (according to 24/7) with their Defensive rankings (according to NCAA):
Indiana (Total Defense # 119)
SMU (Total Defense #112)
Ole Miss (Total #75)
Georgia State (Total Defense #84)
Oklahoma State (Total Defense #115)
Tennessee (Total Defense #91)
Central Michigan (Total Defense #62)
Texes Tech ( Total Defense # 108)
Georgia Southern (Total Defense #129)
Ball State ( Total Defense #82)

I guess that is a huge coincedence....

Total defense is a dumb metric.

I’ve already admitted that the sheer volume could go up, due to the sheer volume of plays being run.

But that’s not the same thing as the *quality* of your defense being negatively impacted.

You get that, right? It’s not a difficult concept to grasp.

If I give up a TD once ever 4 drives before my offense switched to a fast paced offense.

It might be true that I give up more TDs in a game if my offense goes tempo.

But that doesn’t mean I’m still not giving up a TD once every 4 drives. The quality of my defense is just as good.

It’s just pure increase in plays run.

I mean, look at the teams on that list. They arent usually defensive powerhouses, regardless of the offensive system.
 
You saw 2 plays with 7 secs on the play clock so that means he doesn’t use tempo??View attachment 231040
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Great write up whether people ultimately agree/disagree love/hate the hire etc

Last year with Gattis I think the optimism was speculation. There wasn’t much to grab on to other than his Broyles Award and it was also tough to exactly envision how Gattis would fit in with this team which also had a lot of question marks

With Dawson there’s just more to give us a clearer picture of what to expect. I personally like the hire a lot, especially because it put to rest some long term concerns I had with Mario.

Historically speaking we can expect Mario will far outlast Dawson here so sometimes it’s not just about the hire right now, but does it show that he can continue to analyze, adapt, improve etc

To me that answer seems to be a resounding ā€œyesā€ based on this off-season and I think that’s critical
Thank youšŸ™šŸ»šŸ™šŸ» Even more excited by Guidry tbh..
 
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