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Breaking Down Shannon Dawson

5NC4 said:
Here you go man. Did the home work for you. Here are the last 22 national champions and not a **** one of them ran full time no huddle. Every last one of them use "situational tempo" and not a single one runs full-time no huddle hyper speed spread. Not a **** one of them!

2022GeorgiaCFP
2021GeorgiaCFP
2020AlabamaCFP
2019LSUCFP
2018ClemsonCFP
2017AlabamaCFP
2016ClemsonCFP
2015AlabamaCFP
2014Ohio StateCFP
2013Florida StateBCS
2012AlabamaBCS
2011AlabamaBCS
2010AuburnBCS
2009AlabamaBCS
2008FloridaBCS
2007LSUBCS
2006FloridaBCS
2005TexasBCS
2004Southern CaliforniaBCS
2003LSU, Southern CaliforniaBCS, AP, FWAA
2002Ohio StateBCS
2001Miami (Fla.)BCS
2000OklahomaBCS

On top of it all, do any of them play a resemblance of defense? What is exactly the reason absolutely no team that runs that type of offense has ever won a championship in college football? Explain this to me since you act like you know more about football than everybody else you are arguing with.

I can go back another 100 years if you want.

I will ask you again. Do you think Mario's goal is to win championships or appease you? Also, is your goal to have a championship winning team or a fancy offense?

I am going to give you a very simple answer to championship winning football that you should abide by with your thought process on O. "Situational time management" on offense is the only way to win CHAMPIONSHIPS due to playing good defense as well, to go along with good offense.
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Surprising all stacked rosters won the natty
 
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Cribby said:
I was telling this to Lance Roffers other day , dude ran a whip , sat it down like he was sitting in the zone then turned into a wheel route.
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of course. like the creativity. that kind of route is also a great key buster

BUT, that route is a long developing part of the pattern.

I'm sure @Lance Roffers would also agree: you better have an OL that can execute the protection package, otherwise, the QB's throat will end up around his nuts when he gets power drilled into the turf.
 
DrewZ2 said:
Uptempo allows you to lose control fast even if you're ahead.

Lastly, teams used to be run heavy because even if you were out skilled, if you limit opponent possessions you keep the score close and give yourself a chance. While not run heavy, some of the same principles still apply to how CFB offenses run at a foundational level
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Nobody runs full speed tempo when they have a big lead. Like I've said numerous times in this thread, the teams that never slow down, do so because they rarely have large leads to protect. If you're only up by one score, I'd prefer the offense to stay aggressive instead of doing the Al Golden thing and trying to sit on a small lead while bleeding the clock at the expense of your offense's advantages.

There are still teams that try to shorten games to make up for lack of talent but it's pretty much only triple option teams that do that now. Besides the military academies, nobody runs that system because it's near impossible to recruit players to play in it. The reason why the passing game became he great equalizer was because you don't need to be bigger, stronger, faster to move the ball through the air. The quick passing game, coupled with spread formations and the no huddle helped eliminate the largest advantage that the great teams have, the trenches. There's only so many freak 300+lb athletes and they're all going to the same schools for the most part. So instead of just trying to overpower them with lesser players, you scheme a way to take them out of the game as much as possible.
 
Dwinstitles said:
Surprising all stacked rosters won the natty
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Also not surprising that none of them use 100% tempo, which is the basis of the conversation that I was having with them.

It isn't a surprise either that teams that win championships have talent.

So basically, we are both speaking the truth.
 
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5NC4 said:
Also not surprising that none of them use 100% tempo, which is the basis of the conversation that I was having with them.

It isn't a surprise either that teams that win championships have talent.

So basically, we are both speaking the truth.
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U can be elite with an ancient offense if u are stacked so I agree with that.
 
Dwinstitles said:
U can be elite with an ancient offense if u are stacked so I agree with that.
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Trust me I am the last one that wants an ancient offense like what Gattis was running. I think you have my stance mistaken. Not many people want the cave man ball that was played here last year.

I like tempo as much as the next guy. IMy comments were directed at Mossmadness, you and DTP seem to have misconstrued what I am saying. Mossmadness was mad about hiring Dawson because his tempo wasn’t fast enough for him. That is when I and others chimed in about “situational tempo” vs staying in high tempo 100% of snaps. Game time situation determines if you stay in high tempo 100% of snaps or not.

The point I was making with him is that every last one of those championship winners used “situational tempo” instead of 100% of snaps and that those teams usually have bad defenses as well.

I believe you and I are on the same page on tempo unless you are of the believe that the offense should stay in high tempo 100% of snaps even Dawson believes in “situational tempo.”
 
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5NC4 said:
Trust me I am the last one that wants an ancient offense like what Gattis was running. I think you have my stance mistaken. Not many people want the cave man ball that was played here last year.

I like tempo as much as the next guy. IMy comments were directed at Missmadness, you and DTP seem to have misconstrued what I am saying. Mossmadness was mad about hiring Dawson because his tempo wasn’t fast enough for him. That is when I and others chimed in about “situational tempo” vs staying in high tempo 100% of snaps. Game time situation determines if you stay in high tempo 100% of snaps or not.

The point I was making with him is that every last one of those championship winners used “situational tempo” instead of 100% of snaps and that those teams usually have bad defenses as well.

I believe you and I are on the same page on tempo unless you are of the believe that the offense should stay in high tempo 100% of snaps even Dawson believes in “situational tempo.”
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I like Dawson he's way better than Gattis. I agree with what you are saying. I always say though talent wins titles. If we had first round type stacked each class things would look way better. We are in no position to our talent dudes so we need to be creative and that's what Dawson does. Until we are stacked hopefully two three years from now we can just walk out and win.
 
RedSquare said:
of course. like the creativity. that kind of route is also a great key buster

BUT, that route is a long developing part of the pattern.

I'm sure @Lance Roffers would also agree: you better have an OL that can execute the protection package, otherwise, the QB's throat will end up around his nuts when he gets power drilled into the turf.
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True. But you can also throw that route with anticipation and it saves time and still hits.
 
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